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Oil change #674706
25/11/20 05:55 PM
25/11/20 05:55 PM
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Logan, Ohio USA
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I took the Mog into the motorcycle shop I've had doing my work to get an oil change. I brought along the Morgan drain kit from Custom Morgan so he could put it on to make the oil changes easier for him. When I picked it up he said he didn't need it as he just pulled off a hose to drain the oil.

I'd like to know what hose he pulled off to drain the oil. His charge for an oil change was $ 168 US. His normal charge for a motorcycle change with synthetic oil is $ 89 but the Morgan needed 3 more quarts.

I'd just as soon do the change myself if I know what hose to disconnect. :-) Pictures ? Advice ?

Dutch


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Logan, OH USA 43138
Re: Oil change [Re: Dutch] #674714
25/11/20 06:28 PM
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When you obtained the drain kit from Custom Morgan it will have come with an instruction sheet that tells which hose to use, etc.. I would definitely fit the drain kit it makes life a lot easier and cleaner. If you need the instructions just give Emil a call.


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Re: Oil change [Re: Dutch] #674718
25/11/20 06:33 PM
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I would think that the hose he pulled off was the lower one of the two that go down to the two connectors at the bottom by the cam chest, on the RH (stbd) side. They have a S (suction) and R (return) stamped into the case next to them. The S line drains the bottom of the tank. It is also advisable to drain the "dry" sump through the Allen head drain plug on the bottom of the crankcase. This was the way Morgan said to do oil drains on early cars before fitting a drain point to the tank. If the Custom Morgan drain kit is a tap on the tank drain, that is worth doing rather than pulling the hose off every 3,000 miles for an oil change. Not sure how much the oil costs with you but that seems pretty steep for an oil and filter. In the UK the filter cost about £15 and the oil about £50 for a fully synthetic V-Twin 20w-50, if you do it yourself.

Re: Oil change [Re: Dutch] #674719
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I bought a spigot that goes on the oil tank... but the hose that he took off is the one that goes to the bottom of the oil tank. The other hose is the return oil hose that enters the top of the tank. Without my M3W in front of me, I cannot say which is which. 6 quarts of Mobil 1 v-twin should run you about $65. Remember the filter for these are of a higher micron (larger stuff) than a current HD filter (so the S&S is like earlier HD engines like the EVO). This is because the oil filter is the last thing the oil goes through before going to the sump. Therefore lower pressure. Whereas nearly all modern engines have the filter as the first thing the oil goes through and therefore higher pressure,

Last edited by rcmatt; 25/11/20 06:35 PM.

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Re: Oil change [Re: britmog] #674727
25/11/20 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by britmog
When you obtained the drain kit from Custom Morgan it will have come with an instruction sheet that tells which hose to use, etc.. I would definitely fit the drain kit it makes life a lot easier and cleaner. If you need the instructions just give Emil a call.


Bruce is 100% correct. Call or email Emil and he can email you his instruction guide asap.


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Re: Oil change [Re: AZJowett] #674746
25/11/20 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AZJowett
Originally Posted by britmog
When you obtained the drain kit from Custom Morgan it will have come with an instruction sheet that tells which hose to use, etc.. I would definitely fit the drain kit it makes life a lot easier and cleaner. If you need the instructions just give Emil a call.


Bruce is 100% correct. Call or email Emil and he can email you his instruction guide asap.


+1, this is far easier than pulling the lower hose and drains everything except what in the sump, and that is the plug on the underside of the engine. That is way to much money for an oil change.

I use Castrol 20-50 for V-Twins and it is less money than some others yet a better quality of oil IMHO.


Stephen
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Re: Oil change [Re: Dutch] #674756
26/11/20 12:52 AM
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Logan, Ohio USA
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Emil sent me the instructions so I guess I'll put his kit on when I get a moment. I can surely change the oil for less than $ 168 ! I really like my motorcycle guy but not that much :-)


Dutch Junge
194 Mound St
Logan, OH USA 43138

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