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Electric Forecourt #676264
04/12/20 10:53 PM
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This looks good:


Re: Electric Forecourt [Re: Jon G4LJW] #676290
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There's one of these on the Braintree bypass. I hiss and boo at it every time I go by grin2

Re: Electric Forecourt [Re: Jon G4LJW] #676302
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How long before they realise EV pollute more over their lifetime than ICEs. Will this be like diesels?


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Re: Electric Forecourt [Re: John V6] #676306
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Does it still sell pasties and sausage rolls ?


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Re: Electric Forecourt [Re: Jon G4LJW] #676326
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You'd have to have them served cold they are saving the planet laugh2


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Re: Electric Forecourt [Re: John V6] #676328
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Originally Posted by John V6
How long before they realise EV pollute more over their lifetime than ICEs. Will this be like diesels?


They don't, John. It takes about 25k miles before the breakpoint where EVs are overall cleaner than ICE cars.

https://energypost.eu/latest-data-shows-lifetime-emissions-of-evs-lower-than-petrol-diesel/

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Even in the worst case scenario, an electric car with a battery produced in China and driven in Poland still emits 22% less CO2 than diesel and 28% less than petrol, the tool shows. In the best case scenario, an electric car with a battery produced in Sweden and driven in Sweden can emit 80% less CO2 than diesel and 81% less than petrol.


The one area where EVs score less well than traditional cars is in the production process, where emissions are currently around 30% higher for EVs than for petrol cars (at the average global electricity mix). The authors therefore warn about a possible short-term increase in emissions during the time-lag between producing EVs and reaping the overall benefits of them emitting fewer gases over their lifetime - that's where the 25k mile figure comes from as calculated by Auke Hoekstra of TU Eindhoven.


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Re: Electric Forecourt [Re: Jon G4LJW] #676329
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Do the batteries heat up as they are being charged?

If so a new feature of battery driven cars could be a pasty warming compartment.

I'll apply for the patent on that one!!


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Re: Electric Forecourt [Re: Jon G4LJW] #676330
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They heat up on discharge for sure.


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Re: Electric Forecourt [Re: PeterG] #676331
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Originally Posted by PeterG
There's one of these on the Braintree bypass. I hiss and boo at it every time I go by grin2


Yes - that's what's in the video.

Re: Electric Forecourt [Re: pandy] #676332
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Originally Posted by pandy
Does it still sell pasties and sausage rolls ?



Well, there's a Costa and a WH Smiths at that site!

grin2

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