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What to look for in used Morgans #676949
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I know there are 3 or 4 "fixes" / things that need to be updated in a lot of the earlier next-gen 3 wheeled Morgans (the 2013, 14, 15, 16ish years). I'm looking at buying a used Morgan from this era, and wanted to know if there was a list of what to look for as far as common fixes to make sure that the used Morgan I buy has the most necessary updates / mechanic fixes. I don't want to get overly technical, but can we get an easy-to-follow list of what fixes to ensure have been made to a used Morgan when buying a used Morgan? Thanks team.

Re: What to look for in used Morgans [Re: M3Guy] #676951
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This guide tells you all you need to know.

https://www.mtwc.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Final-150.pdf

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Re: What to look for in used Morgans [Re: M3Guy] #676959
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Perfect - thank you kind sir!

Re: What to look for in used Morgans [Re: M3Guy] #676982
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No relation to the seller but this is currently in the For Sale section:

http://www.talkmorgan.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/674344/for-sale-m3w#Post674344

Re: What to look for in used Morgans [Re: M3Guy] #677379
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Just be aware that if your looking at a pre 2014 car then they may still have the Harley Cush drive fitted, especially difficult to know when an upgrade has been carried out or not when there's not much of a paperwork trail for the car such as service invoices.
I have viewed 2 cars in UK over past couple of months that still had the Harley Cush drive fitted.
Difficult to tell externally although there is a way with the use of a magnet on a stick....
Just be aware its a costly upgrade to factor into the purchase price.

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You can also tell by looking through the steering rack cut out or the lubrication hole in the underside of the bellhousing (if it is there) but you need to know what you are looking at. What is the magnet check?

Re: What to look for in used Morgans [Re: Stevo666] #677469
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Originally Posted by Stevo666
Just be aware that if your looking at a pre 2014 car then they may still have the Harley Cush drive fitted, especially difficult to know when an upgrade has been carried out or not when there's not much of a paperwork trail for the car such as service invoices.
I have viewed 2 cars in UK over past couple of months that still had the Harley Cush drive fitted.
Difficult to tell externally although there is a way with the use of a magnet on a stick....
Just be aware its a costly upgrade to factor into the purchase price.


Good basic advice. Personally I’d go for one that still has the Harley Cush drive and factor in replacing it with a Phil Bleazey modified Centa coupling, it’s then easy to maintain and includes better overall engineering than the standard Centa adaption. If you can take the engine out yourself you can factor in about £2.5k including parts to get the conversion done.


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Re: What to look for in used Morgans [Re: IMHO] #677536
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Originally Posted by IMHO
Originally Posted by Stevo666
Just be aware that if your looking at a pre 2014 car then they may still have the Harley Cush drive fitted, especially difficult to know when an upgrade has been carried out or not when there's not much of a paperwork trail for the car such as service invoices.
I have viewed 2 cars in UK over past couple of months that still had the Harley Cush drive fitted.
Difficult to tell externally although there is a way with the use of a magnet on a stick....
Just be aware its a costly upgrade to factor into the purchase price.


Good basic advice. Personally I’d go for one that still has the Harley Cush drive and factor in replacing it with a Phil Bleazey modified Centa coupling, it’s then easy to maintain and includes better overall engineering than the standard Centa adaption. If you can take the engine out yourself you can factor in about £2.5k including parts to get the conversion done.

Sounds sensible....


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Re: What to look for in used Morgans [Re: planenut] #677553
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Originally Posted by planenut

You can also tell by looking through the steering rack cut out or the lubrication hole in the underside of the bellhousing (if it is there) but you need to know what you are looking at. What is the magnet check?



Harley cush drive all steel and centra drive Aluminium.

Re: What to look for in used Morgans [Re: IMHO] #677554
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Originally Posted by IMHO
Originally Posted by Stevo666
Just be aware that if your looking at a pre 2014 car then they may still have the Harley Cush drive fitted, especially difficult to know when an upgrade has been carried out or not when there's not much of a paperwork trail for the car such as service invoices.
I have viewed 2 cars in UK over past couple of months that still had the Harley Cush drive fitted.
Difficult to tell externally although there is a way with the use of a magnet on a stick....
Just be aware its a costly upgrade to factor into the purchase price.


Good basic advice. Personally I’d go for one that still has the Harley Cush drive and factor in replacing it with a Phil Bleazey modified Centa coupling, it’s then easy to maintain and includes better overall engineering than the standard Centa adaption. If you can take the engine out yourself you can factor in about £2.5k including parts to get the conversion done.


Agreed but the sellers don't see it that way when you want to reduce the asking price by at least £2.5k....

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