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Re: Transition from +8 to Roadster? [Re: John V6] #689064
16/02/21 10:15 AM
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Ah. I was referring to the TfL website John, which seems a bit of a bugger's muddle for a number of vehicles...


Graham (G4FUJ)

D8921 L44FOR '93 4/4 Giallo Fly 2 seat smile
'90 LR 90 SW
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Re: Transition from +8 to Roadster? [Re: MOG 615] #689067
16/02/21 10:47 AM
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Tfl websites aren't good but I must admit the staff are excellent. When I had to get to the Docklands airport but the DLR was on strike they ran a superb well organised bus service.


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Re: Transition from +8 to Roadster? [Re: MOG 615] #689073
16/02/21 11:33 AM
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The TFL site shows two variants to charging.
The original Congestion charge plus emissions related charges that will apply cumulatively depending on where the vehicle sits in their emissions bands.
I seem to remember the Congestion charge was to reduce numbers of vehicles by a money disincentive ( pay to enter) . The emissions charges are then on top of that.
Weren’t EV’s given exemption from both to encourage EV use? So, when EV takes over as the dominant vehicle will the congestion element be applied to them? Reduce vehicles, encourage public transport, cycling, electric scooters....
I remember Cardiff having trolleybuses with power from overhead cables. Basically an electric double decker bus. No rails in the road.


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Re: Transition from +8 to Roadster? [Re: sospan] #689079
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I remember Belfast trolley buses.
Cheltenham used to have a tram network (long before I moved here). Allegedly some of the rails are still under the roads.


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Re: Transition from +8 to Roadster? [Re: sospan] #689104
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Originally Posted by sospan
The TFL site shows two variants to charging.
The original Congestion charge plus emissions related charges that will apply cumulatively depending on where the vehicle sits in their emissions bands.
I seem to remember the Congestion charge was to reduce numbers of vehicles by a money disincentive ( pay to enter) . The emissions charges are then on top of that.
Weren’t EV’s given exemption from both to encourage EV use? So, when EV takes over as the dominant vehicle will the congestion element be applied to them? Reduce vehicles, encourage public transport, cycling, electric scooters....
I remember Cardiff having trolleybuses with power from overhead cables. Basically an electric double decker bus. No rails in the road.

Yep and the conductor had a long (insulated) pole to hook on one or other pickup arm when it fell off, which I recall happened often when the driver was distracted.

[Linked Image]


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Re: Transition from +8 to Roadster? [Re: Graham, G4FUJ] #689115
16/02/21 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Graham, G4FUJ
Probably works better than the TfL LEZ/ULEZ system! smile


But that is hardly a great achievement.


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Re: Transition from +8 to Roadster? [Re: MOG 615] #689117
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Reminds me of the Bloxwich Limerick........

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Re: Transition from +8 to Roadster? [Re: RichardV6] #689143
16/02/21 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardV6

Yep and the conductor had a long (insulated) pole to hook on one or other pickup arm when it fell off, which I recall happened often when the driver was distracted.

[Linked Image]


Black Country Living Museum has one of its trolley buses on the go?


Graham (G4FUJ)

D8921 L44FOR '93 4/4 Giallo Fly 2 seat smile
'90 LR 90 SW
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Re: Transition from +8 to Roadster? [Re: MOG 615] #689146
16/02/21 07:02 PM
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When I was a child (a long time ago) we had trolley bus route from the village of Pwll to Llanelli.but ours were red and had wooden seats. oldgit

Last edited by Ray; 16/02/21 07:03 PM.

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Re: Transition from +8 to Roadster? [Re: MOG 615] #689149
16/02/21 07:32 PM
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I have a book about our local trolley buses. I rode on them as a child, and they replaced the trams. When they were sold, some were converted from single to double dockers and used elsewhere. There is a trolley bus museum on the outskirts of Doncaster.

In Sheffield, the rails were buried under fresh tarmac
In fact on some Sheffield streets, the wooden cobbles are still visible when they dig holes and usually perfectly preserved.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexborough_and_Swinton_Traction_Company


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