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Re: Silicone Brake fluid - Holy Grail
[Re: Peter J]
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24/02/21 12:53 PM
24/02/21 12:53 PM
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Ray
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Another comment, dragged out of my bike days memory, is to replace all the flexible hoses with Aeroquip or similar high spec lines: it was believed that most of the moisture got into the fluid through the hose walls.. No idea if it is true, but on a bike braided hoses with nicely anodised couplings look so cool... . That's another mod my +8 had, seems to keep a firmer peddle feel
.+8 Now gone for a 1800 4/4. Duratec in bright yellow.
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Re: Silicone Brake fluid - Holy Grail
[Re: BuyBritish]
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24/02/21 12:57 PM
24/02/21 12:57 PM
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sospan
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The photo you show the rusted cylinder on is due to rust outside not internal so brake fluid won’t stop that. If it does you have leaks! As you are doing a rebuild then now is the time to consider upgrades. That way you are only replacing old parts with upgrades so not much more £. Braided pipes is an obvious easy one. Invest in a brake bleeder kit so you can do one man fluid changes easier either annually or every 2 years. No need to have a pedal pumper then! Dot4 fluid is not expensive so you can get fresh every time. The brake system is reasonably airtight so no big exposure to moist air. It can become part of routine checks/maintenance.
Red Plus8
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Re: Silicone Brake fluid - Holy Grail
[Re: BuyBritish]
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24/02/21 01:37 PM
24/02/21 01:37 PM
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Philippo
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Just my twopence worth based on a couple of cars that I put back on the road for friends. Firstly a TR5 that had been asked up in a barn for 12 years with silicone brake fluid and normal Dot4 clutch fluid. The brakes worked absolutely fine but the clutch hydraulics were shot. And a Jag E Type that had been parked up 5 years where both clutch and brake circuits needed complete overhaul. In my Plus 8 four seat currently nearing end of rebuild I've asked that they put silicone fluid.
Cheers
Philip
In-build 1985 +8 4 seater Malone F1000 - track car
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Re: Silicone Brake fluid - Holy Grail
[Re: BuyBritish]
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24/02/21 02:45 PM
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DaveW
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I do a fluid change every two years. My Roadster rear cylinders lasted 14 years, which is good enough!
DaveW 2005 Corsa Red Roadster S1 2016 Saffron Yellow (Narrow) AR Plus 4
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Re: Silicone Brake fluid - Holy Grail
[Re: Deejay]
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24/02/21 04:10 PM
24/02/21 04:10 PM
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CooperMan
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Just barreling along
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Agree with everyone else on this. Dot 4 changed regularly. As far as rusting is concerned, I don’t think that the hygroscopic fluid is totally to blame. When you go through a puddle, water is easily able to enter the brake drum. Many people who have suffered corroded cylinders seem to have it most commonly on the nearside (where puddles are most prevalent on the roadside. ) Also, when parked up, moisture can condense inside the drum as it cools. If not driven for a while, I sometimes hear a rear brake squeak going down my driveway but it soon disappears as surface rust rubs off. For longevity, when fitting new cylinders best to peel back the rubber boot and pack with Ceretec grease or similar, something manufacturers often fail to do. That's the trick,  checked annually whilst 'bleeding' I also apply a tiny bead of Ceratec around the exposed pistons in the front calipers with a fine paint brush (pads out job)
Jon M
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Re: Silicone Brake fluid - Holy Grail
[Re: BuyBritish]
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24/02/21 04:56 PM
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Robbie Mathisen
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So DOT 4 is ok PROVIDED you change brake fluid every other year or so, and DOT 5 is ok PROVIDED you flush your system thouroughly and get rid of absolutely all old brake fluid before you fill in DOT 5 silicone.I went for the second alternative. I know plenty of Morganeers that do not remember when they changed DOT 4 last time - possibly dangerous, but to err is human. I took exeptional care with flushing when I changed to DOT 5, so I think that problem is taken care of once and for all. And I need not worry about the DOT 4 absorbing water and thus lowering the boiling temperature, neither the water content in the fluid sinking to the bottom of the system possibly inducing corrosion, when the car is stored for a long time during winter. So silicone for me. Cannot see why not, again provided you do the fluid change job to perfection - once. Now, I have a fairly modern car - 2004, so there should be no issue with rubber sealings, gaskets etc.Wether this is a problem with old cars, I do not know.
Robbie the Norseman 2004 V6 Roadster Sherwood green
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Re: Silicone Brake fluid - Holy Grail
[Re: BuyBritish]
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24/02/21 07:16 PM
24/02/21 07:16 PM
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Tonyh157
Just Getting Started
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Just Getting Started
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Am I right in thinking that Silicone brake fluid and synthetic fluid are not the same ? I can buy synthetic that is Dot 4 compliant, is that compatible with”normal” fluid. If so what’s the advantage of synthetic?
Tony
1994 Connaught Green Plus 4
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