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Aero Window Switch Fuse Failure - Recurring #701268
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I have a 2007 Series III and Fuse No29 (Radio 1 & Window Switches) 5A keeps failing.

The electric windows themselves always maintain power and operate when opening and closing the doors to drop and lift a little as they do to create that perfect air-tight seal with the hood, which they're famous for!

I can continue to use the Radio by just pressing the "On" button as though I'm turning it on without the ignition so it runs for an hour and then turns itself off until I press the power button again.

The only thing therefore that does not work is the electric window switches on the doors to lower / raise the windows until I replace the fuse and then they work for a while and the fuse blows again but not always immediately, sometimes it can be a few minutes or several hundred miles of driving before not goes.

My only thought was a poor connection / semi bare wire somewhere that is shorting but how to find it!

Any brilliant and ideally simple suggestions?


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5 amps is quite a low current rating for the fuse. I would tempted to try a 7.5 or 10 amp fuse assuming the intermittent fuse blowing isn't a fault as such, just the load on the motor. I would also check that window movement is not impeded.


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Hi Richard, thanks for your suggestion. One reason I've not tried that is that the window motors are on a completely different Fuse so I assumed that the 5A is solely for the window switch current to turn the motor on and to power the radio.


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Hi Richard, as a further thought, I guess if I tried say a 10A fuse and that also blows in the same way then at least I could be pretty sure that there is a "Short" somewhere.


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Also forgot to say that I have removed both door cards and checked the visible wiring and connections behind the door cards to ensure all OK, which it was. When the fuse is fine the windows both raise and lower smoothly and at the expected pace, operating just as they should.


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Yes I would agree if a 10 amp fuse blows on the window circuit then you have an issue. From your description everything seems good though so worth a try. The fuse is there to protect wiring but also to protect against overload of motor so unlikely a small increase in value will cause a problem. If you still have door cards off would he tempted to grease the mechanism if it looks like it would benefit.

BTW the radio circuit on same fuse is probably just the keep alive feed for its memory which is why you can still use radio when ignition is on as that's a different feed.


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On my S2 the window cables coming from the body in the footwell through to the door are near the hinge and stay mechanism. The slot is a little too small for the number of them and they tend to pinch. This led to a couple of the wires shorting and needing to be replaced. I found this out as I asked the dealer to install some thicker speaker cable and they gave me that little look. "I don't want to be the person that says no to him!". They sorted it all in the end


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Thanks Alastair. I did try to have a look when I took the door cards off, however the rubber boot between the door and car body was fitted pretty tightly and not easily removed - I'll definitely investigate further there. Being an area of movement with the door opening is a logical area of weakness over time. Cheers, Paul.


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There is one other thing on the door hinge area.

The stay that holds the door (almost) in the part/full open position can wear. If you hear a "clack" or "knock" noise as it opens fully then it is wearing out. You start to feel that it is arguing as you first start to pull it closed.
There is a pin top to bottom that can wear the slot oval, then it blocks making it difficult to close the door at all.

If you start to hear the clack (drivers door gets most wear and goes first) then best to get it looked at as well. It does require some work and not just a new pin.

Also if the battery goes flat (never happens, ha ha) then the windows will often not auto dip to miss the seal as you open/close the door. There is a simple process involving the ignition in position 1 and using the window button to reset it. I say it is simple sadly I am even more simple and cannot for the life of me remember it.

I also find this useful for finding your way around some elements. https://www.aero-racing.co.uk/partsbooks/supersports/main_menu.htm
It is based on the later Aero Supersports however many aspects translate to the S3 or give you a good starting place.


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Hi Alastair. Thanks again - I'll check those stays out this weekend. The window switch reset is easy - with the ignition on and doors about half open hold the window switch in the close position for 3-5 seconds whilst the windows raise fully and then lower a little - that's it. I keep mine on a C-tek at all times in the garage as with every other vehicle I own - solves a myriad of problems on cars if the battery is always tip-top. Thanks also for the link to the parts book - very useful. Cheers, Paul.


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Still no joy with the fuse issue and have also spoken to Brands Hatch Morgans about who have a local friendly auto-electrician so I'm going to arrange to let him have a look with the assistance off BMM to trace and replace the bit of wire that is shorting out. Fingers crossed!


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Still haven't got round to finding a dodgy wire but did decide to change the window switches themselves just in case it was broken switch, would have been a really quick and easy fix but alas not that lucky so definitely it's time to hunt down and find a broken bit of wire!


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Hi all, so I've completed a significant amount of additional testing and am beginning to wonder if one or other of the window motor control modules has a slightly temperamental electronic component within it. Does anyone happen to know what the part number would be for the drivers side BMW motor/module unit thingy?


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Hi all, so I've completed a significant amount of additional testing and am beginning to wonder if one or other of the window motor control modules has a slightly temperamental electronic component within it. Does anyone happen to know what the part number would be for the drivers side BMW motor/module unit thingy?


They're not a BMW part


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Paul just a thought based on some work done on on my S2.

Where the bunch of cables go through the door (adjacent to the hinges) into the body behind the front wheel is often tight and this can cause the cables to be damaged. When the speaker cables were upgraded on the S2 they opened up the slots and put in fresh rubber protection around the edge of the hole. Some of the cable did show signs of wear so they wrapped and protected them with more tape.

It might be worth inspecting this for random shorts?


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Hi Alistair, that was my immediate thought and I've looked very closely at this area on both doors and the plastic conduit between the door and car body on both side is in A1 conditions and I cannot see any evidence of any of the wires rubbing at the entry/exit points. I have also left the ignition on and moved/tugged the wiring on both doors as well as opened an closed the doors many times and nothing happens - the fuse remains fine then for no reason as at all the fuse just pops and sometimes the replacement fuse last weeks or months and other times a replacement fuse goes immediately I put the ignition on without even touching / moving anything at all.

This was why I thought it could be a faulty motor/module.

Simon - if the motor/modules are not BMW parts do you know who manufactures these so I can see if I can obtain a replacement?


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Hi Alistair, that was my immediate thought and I've looked very closely at this area on both doors and the plastic conduit between the door and car body on both side is in A1 conditions and I cannot see any evidence of any of the wires rubbing at the entry/exit points. I have also left the ignition on and moved/tugged the wiring on both doors as well as opened an closed the doors many times and nothing happens - the fuse remains fine then for no reason as at all the fuse just pops and sometimes the replacement fuse last weeks or months and other times a replacement fuse goes immediately I put the ignition on without even touching / moving anything at all.

This was why I thought it could be a faulty motor/module.

Simon - if the motor/modules are not BMW parts do you know who manufactures these so I can see if I can obtain a replacement?


They're a modified OE part bespoke to Morgan that's NLA from the OE manufacturer
I'm trying to source parts- but all the aftermarket suppliers parts are all slightly different. I could make the aftermarket parts fit, but I need a car to prototype on- or a door at least


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So if I can't get a replacement motor/control unit I'm going to reface the 5A fuse with one of the re-settable blade circuit breakers instead so at least a press button each time they are playing up should do it.


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Simon - in the past you mentioned that you have limited space. My Coupe still needs the front end sorting and if the door is the same I am happy to donate it for a bit if this helps you? Will need to organise to get it up to you if it is an option for you? This is S4+ based in case they are different ?


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Alistair, I assume it's a typo in your auto-signature doh


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It is a pun on the hitch hikers guide to the galaxy where the captain always had time for one more bath.

Bit of an old joke, it used to say "burn" but several people thought it said bum. So I changed it so it did say that. Can't take life too seriously can we?


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Simon - in the past you mentioned that you have limited space. My Coupe still needs the front end sorting and if the door is the same I am happy to donate it for a bit if this helps you? Will need to organise to get it up to you if it is an option for you? This is S4+ based in case they are different ?



Unfortunately the window motors and mechanism are completely different on the S2 onwards. WRT to the front ball joints, get someone to whip off the uprights and send them to me to remove and replace the ball joints, we can generally turn that job round over night


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It is a pun on the hitch hikers guide to the galaxy where the captain always had time for one more bath.

Bit of an old joke, it used to say "burn" but several people thought it said bum. So I changed it so it did say that. Can't take life too seriously can we?

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So, for the last few weeks I've been running the car with the multi-plug to the driver's side window disconnected and the one to the passenger side connected and thus an opportunity to see if the issue with the fuse blowing is drivers side at least. This does appear to be the case as all the time I've been using the car in this set-up I've not had a single issue with the fuse going and the passenger window working as expected. The challenge now is to find the issue on the drivers side as IO cannot find any evidence of any wires that have rubbed and lost their sleeving to create a short. The ducting between the door and the body is completely intact and therefore unless two wires have both lost their sleeving inside the plastic ducting and are touching each other (which would be most unfortunate) there must be either:
1) A fault with the motor control unit for the drivers window which causes an reverse flow of current / short, OR
2) A wire shorting on the body somewhere between the entry to the chassis and fuse box.
On the plus side having just the passenger door plugged in and working does at least mean the radio comes on with the ignition now and and doesn't go off after one hour


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These issues that surface now and then do wind you up a bit but we tend to forget that some cars are now 20 yrs old, some wiring maybe a little brittle headlamps under the wings certainly. I must admit Chris Lawrence got the factory to put them together very well a bit complicated and race prep at times mind you. Hope you get it sorted soon.....

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So, for the last few weeks I've been running the car with the multi-plug to the driver's side window disconnected and the one to the passenger side connected and thus an opportunity to see if the issue with the fuse blowing is drivers side at least. This does appear to be the case as all the time I've been using the car in this set-up I've not had a single issue with the fuse going and the passenger window working as expected. The challenge now is to find the issue on the drivers side as IO cannot find any evidence of any wires that have rubbed and lost their sleeving to create a short. The ducting between the door and the body is completely intact and therefore unless two wires have both lost their sleeving inside the plastic ducting and are touching each other (which would be most unfortunate) there must be either:
1) A fault with the motor control unit for the drivers window which causes an reverse flow of current / short, OR
2) A wire shorting on the body somewhere between the entry to the chassis and fuse box.
On the plus side having just the passenger door plugged in and working does at least mean the radio comes on with the ignition now and and doesn't go off after one hour

As discussed earlier in this thread did you try increasing the value of the window control fuse to 10 amps Paul? You hinted you would try this but cannot see confirmation you did.


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Have you tried re-connecting the multi-plug and disconnecting the elements inside the door to eliminate the wiring ?

Hoping this is possible.


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@RichardV6 - yes some time ago I did try a 10A fuse and that blew instantly too, hence feeling that is was a proper short as opposed to a current requirement of 5.5A / 6A which was just a little too much for the 5A fuse to cope with.

@PaulF - I'll definitely have a look at this although it's not immediately apparent whether there are separate plugs to come out of the control module to the window. It appears as though the multi-plug does both jobs IE power in and control out etc. Therefore whilst it appears I've narrowed the issue down to the drivers door side of the car I'm still yet to work out if it is a wiring issue or an internal failure of the control module. Hopefully I'll discover some bare wire somewhere that I've not looked before - you know that experience when your trying to find something that you've looked for ten times already in the same place! banghead


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So I've been running the car for several weeks now with the drivers door window module/motor un-plugged and I've not had the fuse go once and the passenger side has worked perfectly at all times. Therefore this last weekend I've plugged the drivers side back in and paid close attention to the where the loom goes out of the door, through the plastic drinking and in to the car main body. It appears that every time the door opens and closes it works a little like a "Ratchet" and is pulling the loom more in to the door. I have been able to push a good inch to one and half inches of loom back in to the body of the car very easily and this leaves the loom feeling comfortable rather than "Taught". I've only driven the car for about an hour since but all worked perfectly and no fuse blows! Think I might put a cable tie round the loom adjacent to the point of entry in to the door to prevent it being ratcheted back in to the door again and see if that solves the problem.

Fingers crossed for what would be a simple, cheap and fascinating fix! cheers


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Yes fingers crossed Paul. Your findings point to a very plausible explanation of issue. It also suggests though this racheting movement has caused a chaffed wire closer to the loom now which only lack of stress on same is holding away from a short to ground. Maybe judicious application of insulating tape in the area would help long term if you cannot find the specific damage.


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Hi Richard, that is what I am pinning my hopes on! innocent


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I find self amalgamating tape offers better protection to cables and is less likely to peel away than insulating tape


Jon M
Re: Aero Window Switch Fuse Failure - Recurring [Re: PJC] #737846
02/04/22 06:02 PM
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Thanks for the advice Jon - Amazon to the rescue and arriving tomorrow by 13:00 so tomorrow afternoon.........fingers crossed!


Cheers, Paul
Re: Aero Window Switch Fuse Failure - Recurring [Re: PJC] #737911
03/04/22 01:32 PM
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So after much fiddling to get the majority of the wiring harness that worked its way in to the door, pushed back in to the chassis and tightly wrapped in self-amalgamating tape (thanks CooperMan) and then a couple of carefully placed cable ties to prevent a repeat performance the windows and radio are all fully operational after many door opening and closing tests. So not to see how we get on over the next few months and hopefully no more blown fuses! grin2


Cheers, Paul
Re: Aero Window Switch Fuse Failure - Recurring [Re: PJC] #739501
20/04/22 07:25 AM
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So after the first few hours of driving and general use of the car my windows are functioning exactly as they should be, which is great as the side exhausts sound even better with the windows down! So fingers crossed that all that was required is a couple of cable ties and a few hours of my time. laugh


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