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Re: Bluetooth sound system [Re: Robbie] #702434
07/05/21 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie
Neither am I,Jon. Surely it can’t be too difficult to give proper instructions for use and adjustment! Also we need advice as to how to get radio as well as Bluetooth music - it’s a €100k purchase here in ireland after all!!

Cheers!

Very frustrating isn't it....


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Re: Bluetooth sound system [Re: Robbie] #702439
07/05/21 10:14 PM
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It is a feature


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Re: Bluetooth sound system [Re: Robbie] #702526
08/05/21 02:36 PM
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Richard it could also be because the bluetooth amp that drives four channels does not expose/declare a control that lets you adjust front/rear?
So the smaller speakers fail to match the rear if they are different?

Just a thought.

If we can find the unit, the name and model then there is a chance that there is an App that will allow detailed setup that may assist?

Are you able to find the device type?


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Re: Bluetooth sound system [Re: Robbie] #702553
08/05/21 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Alistair
Richard it could also be because the bluetooth amp that drives four channels does not expose/declare a control that lets you adjust front/rear?
So the smaller speakers fail to match the rear if they are different?

Just a thought.

If we can find the unit, the name and model then there is a chance that there is an App that will allow detailed setup that may assist?

Are you able to find the device type?

Exactly that yes, and doubt there are any configurables given what has been gleaned from the factory.

Last edited by RichardV6; 08/05/21 07:17 PM.

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Re: Bluetooth sound system [Re: Robbie] #702570
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As always I write first and it takes a week or so for my brain to catch up.

I should have been more specific. When I refer to declaring a control I am talking about over Bluetooth rather than having a knob on it just in case I explained that badly. Is there any way you can find out a make or model of the box? Photos? What it broadcasts on BT when you go to connect to it?

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Re: Bluetooth sound system [Re: Robbie] #702581
09/05/21 06:36 AM
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First of all, one has to know what MMC has installed. If it is a 2 channel amplifier, then you have no fader. If you would connect 4 speakers to the two channel amplifier (without fader control - and two speakers per output) then you have to be careful that the total impedance does not fall to 2 ohms. Because then you can listen to 5 minutes of hot music before it grills the amplifier.


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Re: Bluetooth sound system [Re: Robbie] #702589
09/05/21 07:42 AM
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I imagine audio electronics is not MMC's niche skill. Nothing mentioned so far suggests other than two channel amplifier and haven't seen any bluetooth hookups that stream other than two channel audio anyway. If so absolutely no chance of external fader.

Heinz's impedance comments are relevant if front and rear speakers are just paralleled up to amplifier each side. Not just for total impedance load but, as already mentioned, for power transfer to each if front and rear speakers have impedance mis-match.

Simplest way to gain the flexibility CX owners appear to seek may be to junk the factory amp and fit Bluetooth/DAB car radio allowing dedicated connections to all four speakers.


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Re: Bluetooth sound system [Re: Robbie] #702602
09/05/21 09:03 AM
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There are a lot of companies starting to make specialist out of sight equipment for all the retro and resto stuff out there.

http://www.outofsightaudio.com/ Type 3 is ideal for example.
https://www.amazon.com/Remote-Control-SECRETAUDIO-Hidden-Stereo/dp/B00T8AK7AG
https://rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/pmx-8bb/ (Marine capability for those wet drives)
https://www.memphiscaraudio.com/product-page/mxamcapp-app-controled-headless-source-unit

As you say I doubt the factory wants to spend £500k with Naim working out how to make it perfect in an open top car. However it takes little to get a specialist car audio company to work with you for a week, I would imagine they did that at least. CX is a big step for them and replaced Aero and Trad so they could not have skipped that step?


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Re: Bluetooth sound system [Re: Robbie] #702648
09/05/21 03:41 PM
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There is a free MMC upgrade on the way boys... flyingpig

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Re: Bluetooth sound system [Re: Robbie] #702671
09/05/21 06:06 PM
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With all the voices in my head could I please have a pair of them setup for headphones?


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