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#92008 - 11/05/12 04:29 AM Re: +4ss - a real one!!! [Re: Jeff Williams]
Quicksilver Offline
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Registered: 25/05/11
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Loc: Hertfordshire, UK
Richard Thorne has a nice one up for sale as well. Excellent racing provenance. I like the deep blue colour on this one -

http://www.rtcc.co.uk/index.php?do=usedmorgans&car=19f3cd308f1455b3fa09a282e0d496f4
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#92017 - 11/05/12 06:36 AM Re: +4ss - a real one!!! [Re: Quicksilver]
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Hell of a price difference between the two of them confused2 I know which one I'd be going for!
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#92018 - 11/05/12 06:44 AM Re: +4ss - a real one!!! [Re: Jays]
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Registered: 25/05/11
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Interesting to note that of only 6 original +4 SS models remaining in the UK, 4 are currently up for sale (as counted in this thread) - that’s approximately 80 % of the entire UK stock !

I wonder if these four will remain in the land of their birth ?

With the economic crisis the market is very high for collectables - particularly classic cars and vintage watches. And these cars were comparatively cheap to acquire 10 years ago.

If you bought one of these in the 80’s or 90’s (or before) you could make a killing on it now. Personally, if I had one, I would never sell it.



Edited by Quicksilver (11/05/12 06:59 AM)
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#92067 - 11/05/12 02:14 PM Re: +4ss - a real one!!! [Re: MacMog]
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Registered: 08/04/09
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@MacMog
Sorry for the late answer. Yes the car is a Flat rad, chassis nr. P2730. We were told that Chris Lawrence bought it cheaply (pre-owned) and liked it for engine testing because it was easier to get the engine in and out than on curved rad Morgans. The engine X 773 E is of course not original to the car, it is 1991 ccm (TR3).

@MalcolmT

In a way an eperimental engine in an ex-Chris-Lawrence car would make sense. I will tell my friend to dig deeper in this direction.

Many thanks to you both
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#92178 - 12/05/12 05:22 PM Re: +4ss - a real one!!! [Re: Bodger]
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Registered: 21/04/12
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@ Bodger and MalcolmT,

I think MalcolmT has resolved this with his information that "X" was used as a prefix by Triumph for experimental engines. That would explain why engine X 773 E has a low number, as well as the suffix "E" which was not original to Morgan +4 engines. So Chris Lawrence removed the original Vanguard engine from the flatrad DHC and probably junked it, and the car is now powered by one of the experimental TR engines that Lawrence used for engine development.
Very interesting.

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#92418 - 14/05/12 10:44 PM Re: +4ss - a real one!!! [Re: Leo]
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Registered: 26/05/09
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Loc: South Wales UK
"Simplificate the design and add lightness" Kelly Johnson on the SR-71 "

Build in lightness" Colin Chapman

" But don't forget you'll probably kill a lot of drivers"
me- who is more than a bit fed up of seeing designers who build death traps being lauded.

Sorry, it's a soap box of mine- and the issue has recently come to the fore again with the release of "Senna"
regards
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#92574 - 16/05/12 12:34 AM Re: +4ss - a real one!!! [Re: GLLHG]
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'GOLLY' is this finger pointing at Morgans?
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