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Re: Vented cam cover? [Re: NickCW] #710208
17/07/21 07:25 AM
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"...the slots in the cover from manufacture still have the spacer washers fitted" --> so the ventilation seems still not enough with this small slots in the cover. Seems the CNC milling solution from the italian producer could be a nice way to solve this problem.


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Re: Vented cam cover? [Re: ebetec] #710227
17/07/21 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ebetec
"...the slots in the cover from manufacture still have the spacer washers fitted" --> so the ventilation seems still not enough with this small slots in the cover. Seems the CNC milling solution from the italian producer could be a nice way to solve this problem.


I am sure the CNC milled cover will solve the problem but the washers are only a few pence and work as well. Any ventilation improvement will be a bonus, I doubt you can have too much.

Re: Vented cam cover? [Re: ebetec] #710234
17/07/21 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ebetec
I dont like the spacers in between the motor housing and the cam cover because of air and rain water.



i ran the spacer solution for over 25,000 miles with no ill effects. This included torrential rain and deep puddles/fords. Simple, cheap and effective.


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Re: Vented cam cover? [Re: planenut] #710240
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Originally Posted by planenut

The belt debris is normal, as Mark says. S&S describe it as "snake skin" and it is the release agent from belt manufacture. There is also a cutout at the base of the cam cover that has been there since the start, probably to let the crank seal oil leakage out. I like the machined spacers on the later covers, I just super glue the washers in place to make things easier.

There does seem to have been a bad batch of belts about and they have shown signs of cracking after just a few thousand miles, well worth checking them regularly. In theory the belt life is 3 years or 30,000 miles (with the vented cover) but "on condition" seems sensible. It is a "safe" engine as the valves and pistons don't try and occupy the same space if the cam belt fails, always nice to know.


Is that right, Planenut? This is the first I have heard of a 3 year replacement advisory. I thought it was just by mileage. I better get mine replaced if that is true.


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Re: Vented cam cover? [Re: NickCW] #710248
17/07/21 01:00 PM
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Planenut has a good idea with the super gluing the spacers in place, makes the entire removal and replacement of the cover much easier.

The belts do shed a bit and keeping an eye on them is another good idea, and the main reason I put a clear cover on mine.

Re: Vented cam cover? [Re: LightSpeed] #710267
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Originally Posted by LightSpeed
The belts do shed a bit and keeping an eye on them is another good idea, and the main reason I put a clear cover on mine.


These transparent covers do look nice to me! I see 3 including the Italian company mentioned in this thread (but didnt check the alternative parts list...) plus I think Krazy Horse had a vented non-transparent option?
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USA - Combat Motors (special request it seems) - https://www.combatmotors.com/online-shop
IT - Given Motodesign - https://www.given.it/en/prodotto/carter-distribuzione-x-wedge-ss-e-crs-duu/


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Re: Vented cam cover? [Re: NickCW] #710279
17/07/21 03:33 PM
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I see that Given Motodesign also have an air filter - https://www.given.it/en/prodotto/filtro-aria-per-motore-ss-x-wedge/


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Re: Vented cam cover? [Re: HalfFull] #710282
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I have not seen the 30,000 miles or 3 year cam belt life written down anywhere but was told that is what it is by a Morgan workshop person after doing the cover venting and getting the cam chest upgrade done, FOC at that time. I still think that "on condition" is a sensible way of doing it, I check my cam belt condition every Winter service.

Re: Vented cam cover? [Re: ebetec] #710286
17/07/21 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ebetec
"...the slots in the cover from manufacture still have the spacer washers fitted" --> so the ventilation seems still not enough with this small slots in the cover. Seems the CNC milling solution from the italian producer could be a nice way to solve this problem.



Ventilation requires airflow so the combination of the front vents and spacers provides such flow


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Re: Vented cam cover? [Re: NickCW] #710295
17/07/21 07:01 PM
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That Given Motodesign air cleaner assembly is interesting. I think I saw one that was totally clear somewhere.

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