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A bit of good news #712114
30/07/21 04:09 PM
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This is good news and will at least ensure continuance of the A303 funnel effect for the South West , it's a pain when having to endure it but a lot better than the disproportionate solution that the government thought was a good idea.

Back to the drawing board by which time reason may have have decided that an alternative useable transportation system is in operation.


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Re: A bit of good news [Re: +8Rich] #712115
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I don't understand why the tunnel would damage the site. Wouldn't it actually enhance the area. Near me, the Hindhead tunnel on the A3 has massively enhanced the countryside and freed up the traffic reducing exhaust fumes etc. What's not to like? (Apart from the cost?) wink
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Re: A bit of good news [Re: +8Rich] #712118
30/07/21 04:54 PM
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I must say I agree in principle . That or the A303 needs a big diversion away from the area. I have been driving that road since the early 70s and it is now a real bottleneck.


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Re: A bit of good news [Re: +8Rich] #712122
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the Heritage bodies are in favour of this scheme recommending that the tunnel be lengthened further to avoid more of the important archeological sites and allowing an ancient pathway cut by the A303 to be re-joined. The Gov apparently have "only enough money for that proposed tunnel length" - it feels like a bodge already. I can't help feeling that this may be of more benefit than HS2 where there seems to be unlimited budget.

Actually I need to be less exercised by all this, ignore the above


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Re: A bit of good news [Re: +8Rich] #712132
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We've walked the ancient pathway a few times and crossing the A303 on foot is always exciting.

This is a small victory for the tree huggers, but the simple fact remains that this single carriageway stretch is impossibly congested over holiday weekends and a massive frustration for the locals. Not only that but the relentless emissions of slow moving and stationary traffic is no good for anyone. I doubt a diversion away from this location would work, because there are too many NIMBY's around and who can blame them for not wanting the A303 passing their houses.

The alternative routes past that site are narrow country lanes and quiet villages, which will inevitably attract more diverted traffic as the congestion increases.

So I don't see this as a wise decision, even if the legal small print wasn't followed to the letter.

I'll be interested to see how PeterJ views this.


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Re: A bit of good news [Re: +8Rich] #712138
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Like you John I have travelled this route since 1969 when of course it was straight through and I feel likewise that a big detour is the only answer really.

The main objection is that the whole site could lose it's Heritage status and that due to the magnetometer etc surveys they have had to conduct it is feared that many archaelogical treasures could be lost.

It all depends what your priorities are - mine is slowing the annual lemming influx down and you never know they might turn back wink


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Re: A bit of good news [Re: +8Rich] #712160
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Originally Posted by +8Rich
This is good news and will at least ensure continuance of the A303 funnel effect for the South West , it's a pain when having to endure it but a lot better than the disproportionate solution that the government thought was a good idea.

Back to the drawing board by which time reason may have have decided that an alternative useable transportation system is in operation.


The eco warriors who started the predicable court case want no motorised traffic at all " "It should look again at its roads programme and take action to reduce road traffic and eliminate any need to build new and wider roads that threaten the environment as well as our cultural heritage."". Get your bullock car ready.

And all for a few useless stones!

Re: A bit of good news [Re: howard] #712170
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Originally Posted by howard
Originally Posted by +8Rich
This is good news and will at least ensure continuance of the A303 funnel effect for the South West , it's a pain when having to endure it but a lot better than the disproportionate solution that the government thought was a good idea.

Back to the drawing board by which time reason may have have decided that an alternative useable transportation system is in operation.


The eco warriors who started the predicable court case want no motorised traffic at all " "It should look again at its roads programme and take action to reduce road traffic and eliminate any need to build new and wider roads that threaten the environment as well as our cultural heritage."". Get your bullock car ready.

And all for a few useless stones!

I have to say I agree with you about the stones, I really could not understand all the fuss back in 1969 when I first sighted them and I still can't - just looks like a disorganised Lego build to me.


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Re: A bit of good news [Re: +8Rich] #712175
31/07/21 01:40 AM
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What a load of nonsense from the current era, that pile of rocks was used in the past for bombing practice and only in time scales recently been reconstructed, as someone who spent the best part of 15 years commuting past that site with the Muppets rubbernecking the road improvement is long overdue

Evo bunnies should be shoved in a pot and boiled down, ruddy idiots they must love the continuing emissions from the queues of traffic!


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Re: A bit of good news [Re: +8Rich] #712193
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It really does need "something" doing to sort it out, whatever is suggested will no doubt upset the tree huggers. Personally I like the idea of the tunnel and agree with Nick that this would seem to be the most sensible option based on the experience of the Hindhead tunnel and the Devils Punchbowl area. So make it longer and deeper under the actual site area, in theory having less detrimental effect on the Stones and area.


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