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Re: 2021 Model Year Seats
[Re: Peter J]
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05/01/22 11:11 PM
05/01/22 11:11 PM
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JJR
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I am coming up to nine years of Morgan ownership during the first seven of which I covered some 48,000 miles in a Plus 4 and then a Roadster 3.7. My mileage has reduced considerably since but only because of Covid. I changed the Roadster for a 22MY Plus Four in September and barring a couple of outstanding issues am delighted with it. Like many in the forum when I first drove one in 2020 I dismissed it because of lack of internal storage space given the amount of touring we do. Half a glove box, no door pockets, no option of fitting a foot locker and seemingly much less room behind the seats. My mind was changed when the lockable internal box arrived albeit rather small to put it mildly. Then MMC came up with the transmission tunnel pockets, one on each side. I decided I could live with half a glove box. Last but not least there is more room behind the seats than I first thought as is demonstrated by the following. I am six feet tall and I do not need to have the seat right back as I had to in the Plus 4 and Roadster. My wife is five feet five so her seat is quite forward partly because she likes to use the optional passenger foot brake from time to time. But what about tools and jack I hear you ask which now have to be in the car rather than in the tray which no longer exists. Well, when we collected the new car we were in the Roadster packed for a weekend away the space behind the seats being completely full. We were able to fit all of our stuff out of the Roadster into the new Plus Four along with the tools and jack So I would recommend that you try doing that at your local friendly dealer if the lack of internal space is the one thing that is holding you back. You should also consider how many tools and spares you might need to carry in a CX car given that you can probably do little or nothing to fix it unlike a trad.
Best regards,
John
John R Marchant Plus Four JT10MOG "Florence"
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Re: 2021 Model Year Seats
[Re: Peter J]
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06/01/22 08:24 AM
06/01/22 08:24 AM
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Posts: 1,333 Lytham St Annes, Lancashire
JohnHarris
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Has a lot to Say!
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One very plus point for the CX is the automatic option, I hadn't driven my Roadster for a few months, ( so took it for a quick local spin yesterday to check the radiator out ,to see of it could it get me to Lifes at Southport needless to say the radiator failed completely upon return to garage, another story for another day) I found the steering amazingly heavy and not driving a manual car every day. my left leg which has been problematic for years soon started to ache from the heavy clutch operation.
There is no way my wife (only 5 foot tall) would have the strength to turn the steering and certainly would struggle with a manual gearbox.........so if we wanted to share the Morgan driving experience, an automatic CX would be the only option.
John 2008 Roadster 4 seater FELIX prev 2006 4/4 70th LOKI prev 1977 4/4 SEAMUS prev 1985 4/4 MOLLY
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Re: 2021 Model Year Seats
[Re: JJR]
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06/01/22 08:46 AM
06/01/22 08:46 AM
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I am coming up to nine years of Morgan ownership during the first seven of which I covered some 48,000 miles in a Plus 4 and then a Roadster 3.7. My mileage has reduced considerably since but only because of Covid. I changed the Roadster for a 22MY Plus Four in September and barring a couple of outstanding issues am delighted with it. Like many in the forum when I first drove one in 2020 I dismissed it because of lack of internal storage space given the amount of touring we do. Half a glove box, no door pockets, no option of fitting a foot locker and seemingly much less room behind the seats. My mind was changed when the lockable internal box arrived albeit rather small to put it mildly. Then MMC came up with the transmission tunnel pockets, one on each side. I decided I could live with half a glove box. Last but not least there is more room behind the seats than I first thought as is demonstrated by the following. I am six feet tall and I do not need to have the seat right back as I had to in the Plus 4 and Roadster. My wife is five feet five so her seat is quite forward partly because she likes to use the optional passenger foot brake from time to time. But what about tools and jack I hear you ask which now have to be in the car rather than in the tray which no longer exists. Well, when we collected the new car we were in the Roadster packed for a weekend away the space behind the seats being completely full. We were able to fit all of our stuff out of the Roadster into the new Plus Four along with the tools and jack So I would recommend that you try doing that at your local friendly dealer if the lack of internal space is the one thing that is holding you back. You should also consider how many tools and spares you might need to carry in a CX car given that you can probably do little or nothing to fix it unlike a trad.
Best regards,
John but what about CUPHOLDERS @morgandesign
Steven sold: M3W'12, Aeromax'09,V6'09, 4/4'86 now: LM62'22, Def110'20, Yaris GR4
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Re: 2021 Model Year Seats
[Re: 1560]
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06/01/22 09:36 AM
06/01/22 09:36 AM
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Posts: 5,126 Northants, UK
TBM
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but what about CUPHOLDERS @morgandesign
I bought the Mrs a cupholder from Librands. It sits under the seat permanently. On the odd occasions she brings a hot drink out with her, she prefers to hold it in her hands and/or spill it down her front.
1972 4/4 4 seater - 3G Morganeer 1981 MGB GT Too many ratty motorbikes
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Re: 2021 Model Year Seats
[Re: JohnHarris]
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06/01/22 11:33 AM
06/01/22 11:33 AM
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Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 124 Northants
JJR
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One very plus point for the CX is the automatic option, I hadn't driven my Roadster for a few months, ( so took it for a quick local spin yesterday to check the radiator out ,to see of it could it get me to Lifes at Southport needless to say the radiator failed completely upon return to garage, another story for another day) I found the steering amazingly heavy and not driving a manual car every day. my left leg which has been problematic for years soon started to ache from the heavy clutch operation.
There is no way my wife (only 5 foot tall) would have the strength to turn the steering and certainly would struggle with a manual gearbox.........so if we wanted to share the Morgan driving experience, an automatic CX would be the only option. The auto box is superb both in full auto around town and in Sport or Sport+ where IMHO it is an automatic clutch rather than gearbox when using the paddles. Just brilliant. As you say the legroom provided by the missing clutch pebble is a god send especially for me as I have sciatica in my left leg. John
John R Marchant Plus Four JT10MOG "Florence"
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Re: 2021 Model Year Seats
[Re: TBM]
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06/01/22 02:38 PM
06/01/22 02:38 PM
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she prefers to hold it in her hands and/or spill it down her front.
[video:youtube] https://youtu.be/IVvkjuEAwgU?t=12[/video]
Steven sold: M3W'12, Aeromax'09,V6'09, 4/4'86 now: LM62'22, Def110'20, Yaris GR4
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Re: 2021 Model Year Seats
[Re: JJR]
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06/01/22 02:42 PM
06/01/22 02:42 PM
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The auto box is superb both in full auto around town and in Sport or Sport+ where IMHO it is an automatic clutch rather than gearbox when using the paddles. Just brilliant.
in the Aeromax I let it shift up a higher gear by itselve and pull the gearleaver to do the downshifts manually; that worked absolutely fine and I never missed the manual gearbox in that car I orderd a new GT3 with PDK with the intention to shift manually by the gearleaver, my wife will use it as a full-automatic (I hope  )
Steven sold: M3W'12, Aeromax'09,V6'09, 4/4'86 now: LM62'22, Def110'20, Yaris GR4
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Re: 2021 Model Year Seats
[Re: Peter J]
#729453
06/01/22 04:06 PM
06/01/22 04:06 PM
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Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 23,914 Suffolk, England
John V6
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The auto box for me makes the plus four. The manual ratios aren't right. The auto is a license looser with endless power.
JohnV6 2014 Brooklands Edition Roadster "Brookland's Belle" #5 of 50
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