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Re: Keyless Cars and Security [Re: Paul F] #729017
01/01/22 11:30 AM
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Interesting snippet in a regional paper .... our local divisional chief for Police Scotland stating that they regularly spend 80% of their time dealing with people's mental health issues .... so not surprising you can't get much response when someone crowbars the door of your shed and steals your power-tools ..... going to stick my neck out here and say that my belief is that the weak point here is Local Authorities .... I know we can try bleating on about underfunding as it suits our wider political agendas, but LAs are so burdened with their obsession with their own 'process' (meeting after meeting of numerous well paid middle managers that only decide to have another meeting because covering themselves from the inevitable pressure group criticism of any actual practical action has robbed them of confidence in their own skills and experience) .... there's less and less financial and Human resources actually being brought to bear at 'street-level' ..... with the Police and NHS suffering the ripple effect as they pick up the shortfall by default.


K

Ps .... Mrs Image and I have worked in LAs for decades at various points during our working lives so have first hand experience of both the dead hand of their obsession with their unwieldy internal process and the heroic lengths front-line staff go to to try to give the best service they can

Re: Keyless Cars and Security [Re: Image] #729018
01/01/22 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Image
Interesting snippet in a regional paper .... our local divisional chief for Police Scotland stating that they regularly spend 80% of their time dealing with people's mental health issues .... so not surprising you can't get much response when someone crowbars the door of your shed and steals your power-tools ..... going to stick my neck out here and say that my belief is that the weak point here is Local Authorities .... I know we can try bleating on about underfunding as it suits our wider political agendas, but LAs are so burdened with their obsession with their own 'process' (meeting after meeting of numerous well paid middle managers that only decide to have another meeting because covering themselves from the inevitable pressure group criticism of any actual practical action has robbed them of confidence in their own skills and experience) .... there's less and less financial and Human resources actually being brought to bear at 'street-level' ..... with the Police and NHS suffering the ripple effect as they pick up the shortfall by default.


K

Ps .... Mrs Image and I have worked in LAs for decades at various points during our working lives so have first hand experience of both the dead hand of their obsession with their unwieldy internal process and the heroic lengths front-line staff go to to try to give the best service they can


Agree 100%.


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Re: Keyless Cars and Security [Re: Paul F] #729023
01/01/22 12:54 PM
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Fully agree plod on the street makes more sense.


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Re: Keyless Cars and Security [Re: Paul F] #729052
01/01/22 06:33 PM
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Re: Keyless Cars and Security [Re: Paul F] #730158
14/01/22 10:48 AM
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It's not as bad as the storyline suggests as he had some raw material to work from however it is only a matter of time.

https://uk.motor1.com/news/560475/hacker-full-control-25-teslas/
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Just time to bum a little more petrol before dinner.
Re: Keyless Cars and Security [Re: Paul F] #730163
14/01/22 11:01 AM
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There are a number of third party apps that once in your phone are allowed by your Tesla to extract masses of data which the Teslarati seem to feel enhances their user experience.
This is one...
https://about.teslafi.com/
I suspect that the weakness is in the third party apps security and the naïvety of the owners.
BUT this doesn't hide the fact that any complex computer that gives access to the public is bound to have security issues.

I don't have such an app,
I don't need to know that level of granular detail...


Peter,
Power Corrupts.....
Tarka the 'Otter Mog....2014 Plus 8
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Re: Keyless Cars and Security [Re: Alistair] #730168
14/01/22 12:23 PM
14/01/22 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Alistair
It's not as bad as the storyline suggests as he had some raw material to work from however it is only a matter of time.


Bit of a non story. Teslas, unlike Bentley, Range Rover, BMW, Audi etc are far less likely to be stolen - 90% less likely according to one report in the US. The few that are nearly 100% recovered due to trackers.

I can't say it's keeping me up at night. smile It worries non owners of course.


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Re: Keyless Cars and Security [Re: Paul F] #730170
14/01/22 12:30 PM
14/01/22 12:30 PM
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Hampshire
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Sorry if I left an impression that I felt it was insecure, that was not the intention. Given how easy it is to hijack keylessGo current technology the eKey model that Tesla (and some new others) use is a generation ahead. I thought it interesting to see what was going on in that space. As I said it is not as bad as the article aims to indicate!


Just time to bum a little more petrol before dinner.
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