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Re: Off to HQ [Re: Neilda] #740176
26/04/22 01:33 PM
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On mine I put the nozzle in 180 to where you'd naturally place it, and it fills fine.
If I remember rightly it's what the handbook recommends. I'm not sure if I'm more surprised to have read the handbook, or that Morgan reckon it's fine for owners to workaround a problem that the manufacturer should fix?
Anyhoo, Neilda, it sounds like your problem was much worse than it should've been

Will


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BMW i8 Coupe
Re: Off to HQ [Re: Neilda] #740197
26/04/22 04:03 PM
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"I'm not sure if I'm more surprised to have read the handbook, or that Morgan reckon it's fine for owners to workaround a problem that the manufacturer should fix?"

LOL, for those of you with the traditional version of English that means laugh out loud. thumbs


Just time to rent a thimble more petrol before dinner.
Re: Off to HQ [Re: Neilda] #740239
27/04/22 07:01 AM
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I have tried every position of nozzle insertion angle and have tried twisting the internal holes to every position.

I wondered if fitting another fuel filler cap might help - to have it also open whilst filling. But this would be a very costly 'fix'.

Anyhoo, hopefully MMC can fix this issue before my jaunt to the Med in June.


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Re: Off to HQ [Re: Neilda] #740264
27/04/22 10:22 AM
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I find this really odd as the last time I filled up it took me almost 1min per litre, trying the nozzle in every possible angle 45 degrees at a time, half in - half out etc and yet on previous occasions no such issues. I wonder if to is particular fuel stations as the one I used most recently I've not used before and therefore potential different petrol pumps have different flow rates and/or different cut-off sensor sensitivity, maybe?


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Re: Off to HQ [Re: Neilda] #740276
27/04/22 11:47 AM
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I asked a local garage owner about that when I was having a problem. He said that the pump maintenance people he uses (along with most garages) have a standard setting they aim for which is determined by the pump type in the unit and petrol or diesel going through.


Just time to rent a thimble more petrol before dinner.
Re: Off to HQ [Re: Neilda] #740513
30/04/22 12:40 AM
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This problem seems peculiar to the Aluminium chassis Plus 8, it's really is frustrating. Mine was sorted at the Factory under warranty and has been fine since but, sorry I don't know the cure. As I said previously I can't understand why the 'fix' hasn't been released to the dealers. It's a case of rerouting or modifying pipes and less than a 2 hour job. Aero owners complain of a similar problem but it's nowhere as bad as the Plus 8. My S1 suffers from it to a lesser extent but holding the nozzle at 12 o'clock seems to solve it.


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Re: Off to HQ [Re: Neilda] #740517
30/04/22 06:38 AM
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I have yet to test the car at the petrol pumps - however the factory fix detailed on the invoice contained the following parts:

Machine Shop Supply Fuel Adapter.

Tank Rubber Gasket

Petrol Hose 1/2 Inch Bore

Petrol Cap Side Vent 12mm

One interesting note is that the factory mentioned not 'topping off' when filling. In other words, once the pump has clicked off, don't be tempted to try and trickle more fuel in - apparently this additional fuel makes its way to the charcoal canister thing.

I assume it's fixed it - I will know when I am next at the pump!


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Re: Off to HQ [Re: Neilda] #740525
30/04/22 08:26 AM
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Thought that might have returned to you. Saw it being loaded into the trailer yesterday morning. Hope the fix is satisfactory.
And yes, the "no trickle fill" applies to just about all modern petrol cars.


Graham (G4FUJ)

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Re: Off to HQ [Re: Neilda] #741131
06/05/22 01:56 PM
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First drive out today and first visit to the petrol pump. It's fixed! It fills just like any other car - nozzle right in, squeeze as hard as you like. Fantastic - I'm delighted as it was the only real negative I had about the car. I dreaded filling it. Thank you MMC. smile


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Re: Off to HQ [Re: Neilda] #741137
06/05/22 02:25 PM
06/05/22 02:25 PM
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That sounds like a WIN!!


Peter,
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