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I Had To Do It.... #745921
26/06/22 12:38 PM
26/06/22 12:38 PM
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Peter J Offline OP
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For close to a month Tarka the Plus 8 has been sitting in the garage as Williams Automobiles and MMC try to work out why the brake lights don't work when everything else does...
Today, Sunday was a glorious day, so we took Tarka and drove out into the New Forest for a run down to Fritham Pond for a walk....

This is some of the countryside this morning from our walk: simply idyllic...

[Linked Image]

We then drove on to a pub, the Cuckoo at Hamptworth which has reopened after a long covid shutdown and with new owners.

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Resta...oo_Inn-Hamptworth_Wiltshire_England.html

Sitting outside together, with a beer and a plate of nachos and dips, reminded us exactly what the Morgan is all about...enjoying the countryside.

[Linked Image]

Yes, driving without brake lights may be unwise, but if you don't need to brake, who knows and if there is no one behind, who cares?
I've rigged up an alternative brake light switch, which works well enough....


Peter,
66, my 2016 Porsche Boxster S
Tarka 2014 Plus 8....Off the road, since March!


Re: I Had To Do It.... [Re: Peter J] #745922
26/06/22 12:43 PM
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Sooooperb, Peter.. thumbs

Re: I Had To Do It.... [Re: Luddite] #745928
26/06/22 01:59 PM
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I'm having my own brake light issues at present. After "much ado" I discovered the pedal-operated switch had shifted out of position, and to be on the safe side I ordered a new one from Melvyn (which arrived in less than 24 hours, thanks !). But now the rear fog light has given-up the ghost, and I'm meticulously going through every wire/connector to sort this. I am really lost for words as to how exposed the wiring is to mud/crud/oil. And for the record, the switch as supplied by M.R. is an APEM 1212C, apparently they are also used in e.g. clay pigeon releases; they are available online and probably much less expensive too.

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2009 3-litre Roadster "Ivor", royal ivory / green
Re: I Had To Do It.... [Re: Peter J] #745938
26/06/22 03:20 PM
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Glad your Jury rig worked for you Peter and you had a good run out at last, got to be the best move in light of the CX issues facing MMC presently.
My guess is October at least before they see the end of the tunnel with the logistics involved with the cars being grounded..


Regards Richard

1999 Indigo Blue +8
2009 4/4 Sport Green prev
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Re: I Had To Do It.... [Re: Peter J] #745951
26/06/22 04:37 PM
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glad you sorted this Peter - even if only a temporary repair thumbs

I must admit,I nearly posted a while back to suggest an 'additional circuit' to get the lights working; it seems overkill to have a complex Canbus system operating the rear lights...

James


Aero8 , Series 1 - Boston Green
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Re: I Had To Do It.... [Re: Peter J] #745963
26/06/22 06:03 PM
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Great to hear you got to fire the V8 up!


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Re: I Had To Do It.... [Re: Lordofthewings] #745964
26/06/22 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Lordofthewings
I'm having my own brake light issues at present. After "much ado" I discovered the pedal-operated switch had shifted out of position, and to be on the safe side I ordered a new one from Melvyn (which arrived in less than 24 hours, thanks !). But now the rear fog light has given-up the ghost, and I'm meticulously going through every wire/connector to sort this. I am really lost for words as to how exposed the wiring is to mud/crud/oil. And for the record, the switch as supplied by M.R. is an APEM 1212C, apparently they are also used in e.g. clay pigeon releases; they are available online and probably much less expensive too.

[Linked Image]

They way that plastic is just snapped off to get clearance for connections on the OE one is just nasty frown


Jon M
Re: I Had To Do It.... [Re: Peter J] #745968
26/06/22 06:56 PM
26/06/22 06:56 PM
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Burgundy, France
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Originally Posted by Peter J
For close to a month Tarka the Plus 8 has been sitting in the garage as Williams Automobiles and MMC try to work out why the brake lights don't work when everything else does...
Today, Sunday was a glorious day, so we took Tarka and drove out into the New Forest for a run down to Fritham Pond for a walk....

This is some of the countryside this morning from our walk: simply idyllic...

[Linked Image]

We then drove on to a pub, the Cuckoo at Hamptworth which has reopened after a long covid shutdown and with new owners.

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Resta...oo_Inn-Hamptworth_Wiltshire_England.html

Sitting outside together, with a beer and a plate of nachos and dips, reminded us exactly what the Morgan is all about...enjoying the countryside.

[Linked Image]

Yes, driving without brake lights may be unwise, but if you don't need to brake, who knows and if there is no one behind, who cares?
I've rigged up an alternative brake light switch, which works well enough....


I had the guy behind me jump out of his car at a junction and come to me just after we’d descended a steep hill into Wantage - ‘your brake lights aren’t working mate!”. I replied they are are and dabbed the brake pedal to show him, with the engine braking of a V8 you don’t always need brakes…


Mike H


2000 Plus 8
Re: I Had To Do It.... [Re: Peter J] #745982
26/06/22 07:25 PM
26/06/22 07:25 PM
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Costock, South Nottinghamshire...
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Soon after we bought our first Morgan 4/4 in 2003, my parents stayed with us for a weekend. The Sunday was planned for a lunch at the Bull i’Thorn with DonMog and TorMog. We set off in convoy. It wasn’t until we were nearly at the pub that I realised that I had not used the brakes since we had left Ashbourne. Dad had a Skoda Fabia at the time and didn’t hang about. We didn’t lose them but I suspect he had to work hard to keep up. Mum was a bit quiet over lunch.


Paul
Costock, UK
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Re: I Had To Do It.... [Re: Peter J] #745987
26/06/22 07:31 PM
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Yes, driving without brake lights may be unwise, but if you don't need to brake, who knows and if there is no one behind, who cares?
I've rigged up an alternative brake light switch, which works well enough....



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Peter - it could be worse. You could have a CX and be driving without brakes!
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