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Re: Safety Recall - Brakes [Re: Clipper] #748382
17/07/22 07:52 PM
17/07/22 07:52 PM
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The brake cylinder is safety related and Morgan needs to do something. The radiator is a costly nuisance and MMC could do something.


'14 4/4 graphite grey
Re: Safety Recall - Brakes [Re: Clipper] #748391
17/07/22 08:48 PM
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I would have hoped MSCC would have acted on behalf of us all and negotiated a far better offer than an extended warranty for 3 months. In effect it will cost Morgan very little as most defects are resolved within 36 months. The radiator must be covered however old the vehicle is if it is a known problem. The brake recall would have been covered irrespective how old the vehicles are. The lack of clear communication is deafening, I for one have missed taking my Morgan on a European trip, the Mercedes delivered well over 65mpg so there is some comfort with fuel at around €2.00 a litre. But for those hoping to go away in their CX in the next few weeks it must be hell. 3 months warranty extension is derisory.

Re: Safety Recall - Brakes [Re: Adrian777] #748396
17/07/22 10:15 PM
17/07/22 10:15 PM
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Australia - NSW North Coast
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Originally Posted by Adrian777
As others have said, the 3 month warranty extension is poor compensation. If MMC are serious about maintaining / repairing their reputation then they need to look at this again.
The only other observation I would make is what lovely people you are on here! Too lovely. So many posts saying don’t be too harsh on MMC and be nice to the dealers because they have stock they can’t sell and we should feel sorry for them.
Whilst I agree there is no point blaming or having a go at anyone, both my dealer and MMC have my money. They are in a lot more control of the situation than I am and the dealers will have a lot more influence over MMC than I do. The only thing I have is c.£80k of unusable car sat in the garage. So right now the only people I am feeling sorry for are myself and the other 1273 people in my situation.


Understandable.....


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Re: Safety Recall - Brakes [Re: NickB54] #748417
18/07/22 07:24 AM
18/07/22 07:24 AM
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Worcestershire
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Originally Posted by NickB54
I would have hoped MSCC would have acted on behalf of us all and negotiated a far better offer than an extended warranty for 3 months. In effect it will cost Morgan very little as most defects are resolved within 36 months. The radiator must be covered however old the vehicle is if it is a known problem. The brake recall would have been covered irrespective how old the vehicles are. The lack of clear communication is deafening, I for one have missed taking my Morgan on a European trip, the Mercedes delivered well over 65mpg so there is some comfort with fuel at around €2.00 a litre. But for those hoping to go away in their CX in the next few weeks it must be hell. 3 months warranty extension is derisory.



The Warranty is 30 months not 36 months but yes I agree 3 months is derisory.


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2012 Morgan Three Wheeler
2020 Land Rover Defender 110
Re: Safety Recall - Brakes [Re: Jonathan G] #748426
18/07/22 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonathan G
Originally Posted by NickB54
I would have hoped MSCC would have acted on behalf of us all and negotiated a far better offer than an extended warranty for 3 months. In effect it will cost Morgan very little as most defects are resolved within 36 months. The radiator must be covered however old the vehicle is if it is a known problem. The brake recall would have been covered irrespective how old the vehicles are. The lack of clear communication is deafening, I for one have missed taking my Morgan on a European trip, the Mercedes delivered well over 65mpg so there is some comfort with fuel at around €2.00 a litre. But for those hoping to go away in their CX in the next few weeks it must be hell. 3 months warranty extension is derisory.



The Warranty is 30 months not 36 months but yes I agree 3 months is derisory.


Page 56 of the Plus Four Owners Manual states "Your warranty covers you for one year, or 12000 miles. So the 3 months extension takes it to 15 months not 30, 33 or 36. Please prove me wrong.


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Re: Safety Recall - Brakes [Re: NickB54] #748429
18/07/22 08:44 AM
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Devonshire
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Originally Posted by NickB54
I would have hoped MSCC would have acted on behalf of us all and negotiated a far better offer than an extended warranty for 3 months. In effect it will cost Morgan very little as most defects are resolved within 36 months. The radiator must be covered however old the vehicle is if it is a known problem. The brake recall would have been covered irrespective how old the vehicles are. The lack of clear communication is deafening, I for one have missed taking my Morgan on a European trip, the Mercedes delivered well over 65mpg so there is some comfort with fuel at around €2.00 a litre. But for those hoping to go away in their CX in the next few weeks it must be hell. 3 months warranty extension is derisory.

As a non MSCC member so possibly missed it at the time but were MSCC involved in the numerous issues with the M3W during it's lifetime of production and problems, if so I can see why you think they might help now by liasing with MMC !

As far as I have read on here the M3W owners have been on their own and had it not been for PB and a couple of others they would have been untenable. They had to provide a chassis change as they were a disaster and if that had anything to do with MSCC it would be good news.. and I might even consider joining grin2


Regards Richard

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Re: Safety Recall - Brakes [Re: DRR] #748434
18/07/22 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DRR
Originally Posted by Jonathan G
Originally Posted by NickB54
I would have hoped MSCC would have acted on behalf of us all and negotiated a far better offer than an extended warranty for 3 months. In effect it will cost Morgan very little as most defects are resolved within 36 months. The radiator must be covered however old the vehicle is if it is a known problem. The brake recall would have been covered irrespective how old the vehicles are. The lack of clear communication is deafening, I for one have missed taking my Morgan on a European trip, the Mercedes delivered well over 65mpg so there is some comfort with fuel at around €2.00 a litre. But for those hoping to go away in their CX in the next few weeks it must be hell. 3 months warranty extension is derisory.



The Warranty is 30 months not 36 months but yes I agree 3 months is derisory.


Page 56 of the Plus Four Owners Manual states "Your warranty covers you for one year, or 12000 miles. So the 3 months extension takes it to 15 months not 30, 33 or 36. Please prove me wrong.


I think it actually says "your warranty covers you for one year, or 12,000 miles free recovery service". The quote you posted only refers to the free recovery service. It is poor in that it doesn't state 30 months but I was assured by Morgan it is 30 months. I will double check again now.


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Re: Safety Recall - Brakes [Re: +8Rich] #748435
18/07/22 09:15 AM
18/07/22 09:15 AM
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North of Stamford, UK
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To be fair to MSCC they have been sending emails to us and advise they have had contact with MMC.
Unable to say whether it’s made any difference but any support helps…
HB


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Re: Safety Recall - Brakes [Re: HeadlessBlue] #748437
18/07/22 09:16 AM
18/07/22 09:16 AM
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Devonshire
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That's good to hear HB, every little helps.


Regards Richard

1999 Indigo Blue +8
2009 4/4 Sport Green prev
1993 Connaught Green +8 prev





Re: Safety Recall - Brakes [Re: Jonathan G] #748438
18/07/22 09:18 AM
18/07/22 09:18 AM
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What is Covered Under the New Vehicle Limited Warranty?
Under your New Vehicle Limited Warranty, coverage begins at the warranty • start date and lasts for 30 months or 30,000 miles, which ever comes first.
Also, your warranty covers you for one year, or 12,000 miles free recovery service (organised by your supplying dealer for markets outside the UK).


Mike
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2010 Roadster S2
2021 Plus 6
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