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Re: Boxter Experience [Re: Peter J] #749796
29/07/22 01:55 PM
29/07/22 01:55 PM
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Plenty of time to try a Super 3 now then Peter smile

You owe it to yourself.


Regards Richard

1999 Indigo Blue +8
2009 4/4 Sport Green prev
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Re: Boxter Experience [Re: Peter J] #749820
29/07/22 05:55 PM
29/07/22 05:55 PM
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Ermatingen, Switzerland
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Hi Peter,
owned over the years 5 boxster. Last one, a spyder i sold to buy my Plus8.
From year 2010 i think you can buy every good maintained Boxster. The are
more comfortable than a Morgan, faster, perfect handling and dont consume
too much fuel. Only the service is Porsche like a little expensive.
For me they was more fun to drive than the 911‘s that are really too perfect,
not to say boring on normal roads.
If i ever buy a Porsche again then. Boxster... or maybe an old 911 ;-)

BR
Andreas


2009 4/4 sport, sports green
2004 Plus 8, obsidian black
Re: Boxter Experience [Re: Peter J] #749844
29/07/22 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter J

I drove a 2.0L 2017 with PDK and Sport Chrono Pack yesterday.
Basic upholstery, Bose sound system.

How do Porsche make a car running 19" wheels ride over rubbish roads so well, yet corner as if on rails.
Overall I'm impressed, but will not be changing, because the bog standard seats don't fit me.
Trying a model S with Spots Seats Plus, sitting on the seat in the showroom it was much better.

Driving home in the Tesla, on some of the same roads shows it up for what it is.

The Tesla will go next week, so until Tarka is back it we are a 1 car family. HELP!!


If you are happy with the 2.0 engine, do have a look at the Boxster T. It's essentially a GTS but with the 2.0 engine. If you thought the car rode well as it is, wait until you try PASM. I touched on this in a previous reply.

The T comes standard with all the performance options as standard, LSD, PASM, Sport Chrono etc.

Good luck
P

Re: Boxter Experience [Re: Peter J] #750017
31/07/22 11:25 AM
31/07/22 11:25 AM
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Salisbury, UK
Peter J Offline OP
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Driving the Boxster S yesterday made our decision easy.

The S variant has 500ccs more, a trick turbo from the 911 and a few other features. The 66 plate one I drove has PDK, the Porsche automatic transmission: possibly the fastest changing and smoothest transmission I’ve ever experienced. It also has PSAM, which gives adjustable suspension and a Chrono pack, which puts the mode switch on a little wheel on the steering wheel. Yes, there is a touch screen, but it is only for navigation and audio. The car also has full leather and the Sports Plus seats, which are really comfortable: overall the ride is incredibly well controlled, yet smooth and subtle.

A £2k deposit placed, the private plate removed from the Tesla and an appointment booked with We Buy Any Car for Wednesday, assuming DVLA gets the new V5 to me in time. I should get the car by next weekend.

This is what it looks like, kingfisher blue.

[Linked Image]

The car was registered in October 2016 yet has covered just 11,105 miles: it is as tight as a drum and could be taken to be a new car. The MOT history shows that it was driven 7696 miles in its first 3 years, the next year 1430 miles and this year just 874 miles. The next MOT is due in October, and it would, at past use rates, have done 1105 miles. It had the first service at 2 years in October 2018 and the second in October 2020, the next is due in 2022 and will be done before we collect the car. My only concern is tyre age: assuming they were made in 2015 or early 2016 they will be close to 7 years old, which is not good, irrespective of the wear level.

We have paid £51,990 for it, with a 2 year manufacturer’s warranty: a new 2023 car specified exactly as the one we have purchased would be just under £80,000. This is Morgan PlusFour money here: sadly, there is no real comparison. I worry that by moving into Porsche pricing MMC will struggle to convert people in sufficient numbers: time will tell.

Does buying a Boxster replace the Tesla make sense? Well, 99% of the use of the Tesla is one or two up, the boot mostly empty. The Tesla is a perfect commuter car, but I don’t commute anywhere. The Tesla is cheap to run but is largely soulless. It has had several warranty issues, including a main CPU failure, and the never ending stream of updates irritates, not sure why. The biggest dislike is the touch screen user interface and the way that it tries to nanny the driver by warning of this or that perceived danger, when none exists. In comparison the Boxster is largely analogue, more like the Morgan.

So, what about the Morgan? When I get it back and have the opportunity to drive it then I’ll make a decision, assuming I don’t have to sell it to pay a massive labour charge. They are so very different takes on two seats and a soft top!


Peter,
66, 2016 Porsche Boxster S
Tarka, 2014 Plus 8....Back on the Road Again!!


Re: Boxter Experience [Re: Peter J] #750019
31/07/22 11:41 AM
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Dorset, UK
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Not impulsive whatsoever wink


Mark - No Longer driving
Archie the Old English Sheep Mog...........
2010 Roadster 3.0 V6 (S3) wink
Re: Boxter Experience [Re: Peter J] #750022
31/07/22 11:54 AM
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Essex
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Don't expect too much from WBAC, don't even leave a speck of dust on it or they will knock money of the web price.


Keith
2013 narrow bodied + 4 Ruby.
Re: Boxter Experience [Re: Peter J] #750028
31/07/22 12:09 PM
31/07/22 12:09 PM
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oxfordshire
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Good decision!
I think you'll love it.
I've always been concerned by Morgan's pricing and their ambition to take on the bigger names.
Good will and 'they all do that sir' only goes so far at £80k +!!!
Enjoy a modern, real sports car!!!

Re: Boxter Experience [Re: Peter J] #750033
31/07/22 12:40 PM
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Congrats on the impending delivery of your Porsche Peter...Having been a Porsche owner for a decade or more, I went to Morgan in search of a vintage and thus more involving driving experience, my Morgan providing that and more, providing enough confidence in it`s capabilities for us to take on trips driving to France, Spain and Italy. I have now owned my +8 for circa 20 years smile

GREAT colour and my favourite wheels too, showing off the big red callipers. Porsche ever felt to me as if carved from the solid and still do, though they have not been without their issues since they went to water cooling, bore score being one and perhaps associated with flat engines in general..? Perhaps best to allow it to get up to temp before loading the engine in a rapid overtake etc..? Also it seems the PDK box may not be considered as repairable by Porsche, as no parts seem to be available which makes for a rather expensive replacement .???

That you have the insurance based Porsche extended warranty would seem to be ideal, though depends upon you having your Boxter serviced by Porsche technicians using only Porsche O.E. Parts, right down to Porsche approved tyres the I.D. on the battery and windscreen wipers.. etc. etc. etc.. any non-O.E.Parts found in the case of a claim can negate the warranty. I had to jump through hoops to have my 2012 car accepted on to the warranty scheme, which it can be on for till circa 15 years or 140k miles though best to check as things change..?

With a rarely used car to date, and stop start tec, I suspect IF you also may not use it regularly it may be best to keep it on a CTEK AGM matched float charger/reconditioner

I recently replaced my 10 year old battery as it failed to start my rarely used 911 having inadvertently been left for a week without the charger attached.. Battery`s with the necessary Porsche ID cost more than from the same manufacturer without the Porsche label, though the comfort of the warranty was deemed to be worth the extra.

The mix of a Morgan and a Porsche in the garage can work rather well... I hope it works well for you too Peter.. thumbs

Re: Boxter Experience [Re: Peter J] #750038
31/07/22 01:09 PM
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Congratulations Peter, absolutely fabulous choice of Boxster I think I was drawn to that particular car or one very similar on Autotrader the other day after reading your posting...great colour absolutely stunning and a brilliant specification. Must admit the Speedsters ( for more money) with 380bhp certainly wetted my appetite.

I'm sure it will be pleasure to drive roof down and hopefully rekindle the Morgan open motoring love affair when you get your Morgan back. I've only had tin tops as company cars and when ever I could get away with it a company soft top. My personal cars have always been soft tops and I couldn't image not having one in my life.


Great car good choice, slightly envious at the moment.


John
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Re: Boxter Experience [Re: Peter J] #750042
31/07/22 01:57 PM
31/07/22 01:57 PM
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Very nice Peter! thumbs (As I said in my email)
But don't expect other drivers to let you out at junctions as would happen with Tarka smile


Graham (G4FUJ)

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