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Re: Clutch Fluid - Changing [Re: Leroy] #756284
22/09/22 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Leroy
Reserecting an old thread. There are a number of kits that make bleeding brakes easier by pressurising the system and the opening each nipple to drain out the fluid. Could the same kit be used to bleed the clutch as well, in particular S1 Roadster?


Yes.


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Re: Clutch Fluid - Changing [Re: britmog] #756289
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Originally Posted by britmog
Originally Posted by Leroy
Reserecting an old thread. There are a number of kits that make bleeding brakes easier by pressurising the system and the opening each nipple to drain out the fluid. Could the same kit be used to bleed the clutch as well, in particular S1 Roadster?


Yes.

Not worth connecting all the bit's up, It's a 5 minute job the traditional way (don't forget to syringe out most of the old fluid first or you're just diluting {contaminating} new with old)


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Re: Clutch Fluid - Changing [Re: CooperMan] #756356
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Originally Posted by CooperMan
Originally Posted by britmog
Originally Posted by Leroy
Reserecting an old thread. There are a number of kits that make bleeding brakes easier by pressurising the system and the opening each nipple to drain out the fluid. Could the same kit be used to bleed the clutch as well, in particular S1 Roadster?


Yes.

Not worth connecting all the bit's up, It's a 5 minute job the traditional way (don't forget to syringe out most of the old fluid first or you're just diluting {contaminating} new with old)


Totally agree with Jon. I've used an eezibleed once way back and it takes just as long, if not longer to do the job.


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Re: Clutch Fluid - Changing [Re: DaveW] #756401
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I just use one of these, had it for years, easy-peasy (link for illustration of tube only)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200345014236


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Re: Clutch Fluid - Changing [Re: DaveW] #756425
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I've opted for this device from ebay. Has a one way valve and the clips look reassuringly good for holding the tube onto the nipple. About £7 Inc delivery. Will allow for solo bleeding, and won't take up as much room in my every increasing morgan maintenance kit, as an easy bleed would.

Last edited by Leroy; 24/09/22 08:27 AM.

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Re: Clutch Fluid - Changing [Re: Leroy] #756686
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Originally Posted by Leroy
Reserecting an old thread. There are a number of kits that make bleeding brakes easier by pressurising the system and the opening each nipple to drain out the fluid. Could the same kit be used to bleed the clutch as well, in particular S1 Roadster?


Of course you can use a pressurised system to replace the clutch fluid. The trick is to replace the brake and clutch fluid at the same time!

I use the Sealey model no. VS820 as recommended by some one on this forum in the past. It makes it a one man job and a piece of cake. 🍰


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Re: Clutch Fluid - Changing [Re: DaveW] #756967
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Changed the clutch fluid today. Here was my method:
Stirred the crud at the bottom of the reservoir which made the fluid turn pretty dark.
Syringed out the fluid from the reservoir and replaced it with new fluid.
Fitted my tubing with one way valve which worked pretty well.
Pumped the clutch to push out the old fluid.
No Bubbles in the fluid that decanted into an old bottle.
Topped up the reservoir a few times so it didn't run dry.
Tightened everything up, and think all is good.
My only wonder, is did I draw through enough fluid as the old fluid that came wasn't too bad. Drew through about 300mm.


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Re: Clutch Fluid - Changing [Re: DaveW] #756972
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300 ml sounds plenty to me, especially if you syringed out the top bottle, the pipe run and what's left in the master cyl is very small thumbs


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Re: Clutch Fluid - Changing [Re: CooperMan] #756987
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Originally Posted by CooperMan
300 ml sounds plenty to me, especially if you syringed out the top bottle, the pipe run and what's left in the master cyl is very small thumbs

That's reassuring. Any idea of how much will be in the brake lines if I do the same, as they are next on the list?


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Re: Clutch Fluid - Changing [Re: Leroy] #757021
02/10/22 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Leroy
Originally Posted by CooperMan
300 ml sounds plenty to me, especially if you syringed out the top bottle, the pipe run and what's left in the master cyl is very small thumbs

That's reassuring. Any idea of how much will be in the brake lines if I do the same, as they are next on the list?

For what it’s worth:
Typical brakeline is 3/16” external diameter, which is equivalent 4.76mm. Pipe wall thickness is 0.71mm. Doing the Maths, that equates to a volume of just 8.763 ml per metre run. So by measuring the overall length of your brake pipes, you can easily calculate the volume.
However, much of the overall volume will be in the reservoir and caliper/brake cylinders, the latter being much more difficult to measure. Colour is as good as anything to satisfy yourself that old fluid has been displaced. A litre bottle will be plenty to do the brakes and clutch with a bit left over. (Which should be disposed if as it is hygroscopic, so no good for future use)


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