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Servicing plus 4 help required #763047
02/12/22 12:16 AM
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Hi all
I would like to service my 2019 plus 4 with the 2.0L GDI engine and wonder what Items need checking.
due to covid I have only managed 700 miles from new so far. Trying to find oil filter, air filter numbers and any service
Items seem almost impossible. The usual trade outlets do not recognise Morgan registration numbers for parts.
I have searched a lot of the service threads on this forum and not found what I needed.
I apologise if this has been covered before but I am unable to find the information
Regards

Re: Servicing plus 4 help required [Re: Retro] #763048
02/12/22 05:03 AM
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Port Macquarie Australia
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I have the same year plus 4 and using the numbers on the existing filters you can look up on the internet for equivalents or just take the numbers to your local parts dealer and he can look them up in there book. They where on the shelf in Australia with a choice of brands so should not have a problem. The hardest job was to find a grease gun witw a narrow end to the nozzle so I could get on to the front universal joint grease nipple.
Good luck
Colin


2019 Plus-4 Royal Guardsman Blue
2020 Subaru 2.5iP
2014 Toyota Landcruiser 200 series 4.5l diesel
Re: Servicing plus 4 help required [Re: Retro] #763059
02/12/22 08:55 AM
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No idea whether you are UK or abroad, which may have an effect on sourcing, so if you could add a location to your profile, it might be helpful in the future.
Sage advice from Colin above.
With only 700 miles on the clock, little should be needed at the moment as far as normal servicing is required. I would suggest an oil change and then above all, give it a good long drive to exercise the brakes, which will clean off any accumulated rust and free up calipers and slave cylinders. Also, run the fuel down as low as you dare prior to refilling, to get rid of the old stuff.
Greasing of the front suspension and a squirt of motorcycle chain oil on the rear springs would not go amiss.
Above all, drive it and get it good and hot to dispell any internal condensation.


Doug

2011 +4 in Rich Maroon
1972 750 “ComDom” sprinter
1958 Triton 650
1992 Triumph Trophy 900
Re: Servicing plus 4 help required [Re: Retro] #763092
02/12/22 02:29 PM
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If you PM me your email I can send you the Morgan service checklist.
I made an access hole in the gearbox cover to grease the front UJ. The post is here


JohnV6
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Re: Servicing plus 4 help required [Re: Retro] #763133
02/12/22 10:04 PM
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On my car it was the position of the grease nipple close to the bearing housing that prevented a standard grease gun getting on to the grease nipple at an angle that didn’t let the grease escape out the side.
Colin


2019 Plus-4 Royal Guardsman Blue
2020 Subaru 2.5iP
2014 Toyota Landcruiser 200 series 4.5l diesel
Re: Servicing plus 4 help required [Re: Retro] #763142
03/12/22 08:48 AM
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When I replaced my broken handbrake cable last year, it was the first time in 10 years, that I had access to the front u/j. So I gave it a squirt of grease. However, it is nestled in a nice clean and dry environment and IMO I don’t see it as an essential maintenance item.
Many rear wheel drive cars in the past 40 or 50 years have been devoid of grease nipples and I suspect that many Morgan owners who religiously use a dealer to perform their maintenance “properly” , are blissfully unaware that this item probably never receives attention, where an access hole is not readily provided.
The rear u/j however is much more exposed and as it is easy to get to, can gratefully receive a squirt at each service. But, if overdone, it can easily blow the seals. Sometimes…less is more!


Doug

2011 +4 in Rich Maroon
1972 750 “ComDom” sprinter
1958 Triton 650
1992 Triumph Trophy 900
Re: Servicing plus 4 help required [Re: Retro] #763152
03/12/22 09:54 AM
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My guess is that Morganeers the world over may be somewhat sensitive to greasing, more so if they have spent time on any of the many forums or talking to other Morgan owners..? Also those of us more mature types who have a history of messing about in and under vehicles, some of which may have been older than us, will remember a time when even door hinges might have had grease nipples, let alone steering, suspension and drive line components..?

I well remember when Datsun first introduced their cars to my part of the world, their track rod ends had little screw in plugs that when removed a grease nipple could be screwed in, to keep those of us us who were keen on greasing every nipple, happy... I had involvement with a few Datsun`s belonging to family and friends and as best I can remember I never replaced a steering or suspension component on any of them over the years. All of which was a world away from the usual Ford, BMC and other manufacturers, where for each and every MOT there would be the usual replacements required if not annually then semi regularly at the least... I guess it kept small garages busy and the parts manufacturers and suppliers happy..? I suspect Datsun and others altered our expectations in time...All just part of the evolutionary processes...whether good or bad, I leave it to you to judge..

As for the UJ...I guess if there might be no sign of it having leaked it`s initial lube at the time of manufacture, then I guess it might still be in there, and if there is no play and it has covered a few miles of enthusiastic driving in your ownership, then it just might be fine to leave it be....? But then IF there is a grease nipple...????

Re: Servicing plus 4 help required [Re: Retro] #763162
03/12/22 11:03 AM
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The UJ grease in later cars is almost like Swarfega to look at, a sort of green slime. It's been said already. Don't overdo the propshaft U/Js. It can lift the seals and let condensation inside. It will also spray a line of grease around the inside of the tunnel. After 700 miles, an oil & filter change, and a kingpin grease plus a visual check underneath to make sure nothing is working loose and that should be it.


DaveW
'05 Red Roadster S1
'16 Yellow (Not the only) Narrow AR GDI Plus 4
Re: Servicing plus 4 help required [Re: Retro] #763165
03/12/22 11:48 AM
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Crowthorne
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If you’re looking for part numbers, the original oil filter part number on my car was a FoMoCo AA6E 6714 AA, however I now use a Mann W7015. I’m sure your air filter is fine after such a low mileage, the Mann filter equivalent is C16 134/2 or if you fancy an upgrade then the K&N filter E2993 is what you want.

The sump washer is a standard Ford rubber washer which you can get from any motor factors, just take your old one down and they can supply one from a Focus or Mondeo etc.

PM me if you need anything else as I have collected a few other part numbers since I got my GDI

Cheers and have fun
Ken

Re: Servicing plus 4 help required [Re: Retro] #763306
04/12/22 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Retro
Hi all
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The usual trade outlets do not recognise Morgan registration numbers for parts.
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Regards

Just booked a ferry with Brittany Ferries and their system, misinterpreting on my Italian reg number, insisted that my Morgan is a Lexus RX. confused2


Peter

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