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brake disc
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28/02/23 10:29 AM
28/02/23 10:29 AM
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lez
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has any one had there brake discs skimmed on the car with centre wheel nuts watched a video of it being done and the machine used bolts onto wheel studs.
LES PLUS 4 FORD FIESTA ST 2
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Re: brake disc
[Re: lez]
#770167
28/02/23 12:19 PM
28/02/23 12:19 PM
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Burgundymog
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Black Rat
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No but Melvyn Rutter has a machine that does it on the car, give him a ring he is very helpful.
Keith 2013 narrow bodied + 4 Ruby.
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Re: brake disc
[Re: lez]
#770175
28/02/23 02:09 PM
28/02/23 02:09 PM
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Posts: 6,710 Köln Germany
Heinz
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I never had any problems on previous Morgans with wider tyres. But when I got my 4/4 in 2014, it was really its only weak point. I don't know if the brake discs are more vulnerable with the very narrow tyres of the 4/4 or what the reason is. I got new brake discs under warranty every 6000 km, replaced four times, so in total five sets of brake discs over 30000km. Unfortunately, the workshop had no prescription except to keep changing them. Before each change, the car was pretty much undriveable. The brake discs were so warped that the sole of my foot hurt from the rattling of the pedal. If I was otherwise happy with my old garage, but they couldn't solve the brake disc problem. In the end they blamed me... something like that only happens when you park the car wet etc. Then I tried another Morgan workshop in Germany, André Koopmann. He did it exactly as you describe in your post, lez. He took brand new discs. They even were already pulsating slightly. He ground down the new discs and I have had absolute peace and quiet for over 70,000 km. It was like a miracle.
'14 4/4 graphite grey
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Re: brake disc
[Re: lez]
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28/02/23 06:33 PM
28/02/23 06:33 PM
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Paul F
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I vaguely remember reading somewhere that cast iron discs need to be “weathered” before fitting. If subjected to heat cycles prior to this, they can warp.
If my memory is working OK (it doesn’t always!), could be that skimming on the car is done after the discs have had several heat cycles and they warp no more.
To this end, when I had new discs fitted to my 4/4 in October 2022, I resolved to be very gentle with the brakes for a while. 12 months later, they have yet to warp. It would be lovely to think that I have a fix!
Can any metallurgists confirm or ridicule my hypothesis?
Paul Costock, UK 2014 4/4 Rolls Royce Garnet Red Disco 5 Teddy - 17h1 Irish Draught cross
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Re: brake disc
[Re: lez]
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28/02/23 07:16 PM
28/02/23 07:16 PM
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Heinz
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My theory is not so much the burn-in cycle. I suspect that a really flat grinded brake disc has a good chance of always staying flat. But a brake disc with the smallest waviness can become exponentially wavier within a short time. Obviously, the very narrow wheels of the 4/4 can amplify this effect? Maybe because they run less stable round as it is the case with a wider tyre? Another guess...the brake discs on other Trad models were, I heard, bought in, representing a reliable industrial standard.. Morgan cast the brake discs of the 4/4 themselves for quite a while (so I was told, I don't know). But they weren't really straight in the first place, so grinding them down before first use makes a lot of sense.
'14 4/4 graphite grey
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Re: brake disc
[Re: Paul F]
#770207
28/02/23 07:40 PM
28/02/23 07:40 PM
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CooperMan
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Just barreling along
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I vaguely remember reading somewhere that cast iron discs need to be “weathered” before fitting. If subjected to heat cycles prior to this, they can warp.
If my memory is working OK (it doesn’t always!), could be that skimming on the car is done after the discs have had several heat cycles and they warp no more.
To this end, when I had new discs fitted to my 4/4 in October 2022, I resolved to be very gentle with the brakes for a while. 12 months later, they have yet to warp. It would be lovely to think that I have a fix!
Can any metallurgists confirm or ridicule my hypothesis? Paul, in short yes
Jon M
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Re: brake disc
[Re: lez]
#770224
28/02/23 10:18 PM
28/02/23 10:18 PM
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Posts: 1,561 Northern Germany
bmgermany
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My break disk were skimmed by Morgan-Park this way. I even got a short video from this work...
2005 4/4 1800ccm Duratec and a lot of HONDA CX500.......
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Re: brake disc
[Re: lez]
#770246
01/03/23 09:09 AM
01/03/23 09:09 AM
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Lord Unstone
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Never heard of that before, I get new discs, have them fitted, brakes are fine for many miles...On a variety of cars....fitted by some top mechanics...
Richard S 1993 4/4 1966 S2a Landie 1966 VeloSolex 1929 Bernard WO pump 1940 Petter McLaren
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