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My wiper stalk has stopped operating, it just doesn't click into position and stay there. It will still operate the wiper at full speed, but I suspect will need replacing.

The problem is that I don't know who the OE supplier is. I was told by someone they thought it was Land Rover Discovery, but having checked I don't think it is. I'm not sure my ARP4 has the same as stalk as all Plus 4s, I'm guessing it does, so, can anyone tell me what vehicle the stalks are from please. I am sure I can make a small saving by buying from a specialist rather than an MMC dealer?

I had the same problem, and bought the wrong one...think I may even have 2....Where abouts are you?

Paul, if you send these good folks a picture I'm sure they could help you. Like you I think it's a Disco one but maybe there are a few versions of them.

I recall a German colleague on here getting stuck away from home and a Landy dealer had a replacement on the shelf.

Maybe a similar story happened here, but if it was mine, you have a very good memory, Richard. Only in my case it was the rotary switch (in the turn signal lever on the left side of the steering column) for the driving lights. I had only parking light by the error. Whether in the ARP4 the same parts were installed I do not know of course. But in my 2014 4/4 it is from a Freelander!, I don't know what generation of Freelander, but up to 2015 because it happened that year.
In the link below is my original post about the breakdown from 2015 with text under the last picture.
Really Richard, if you still know that then all respect for your gray cells.

http://www.talkmorgan.com/ubbthread...-you-driven-your-morgan-today#Post286892

It was you I was thinking of Heinz, always good to see that the grey cells recall some things, not the right side switch but close
I thought it was great that the garage sorted you out mid holiday.

I found an old photo here (the last two photos in the first long post) of my wiper lever and turn signal lever:

http://www.talkmorgan.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/338887/momo-prototipo-fitted-for-4-4

When I compare it to this photo of an ARP4 from the net, it looks very similar if not exactly the same. So I am also guessing the Freelander (until 2015 may be even older) as the donor especially since our cars were built at almost the same time.

This looks close looking at your last post Heinz ?

Judging by the pictures I would say it is from the first generation Freelander. Like here:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/27485343196...gtNReKsj63pxTyNmg99tWPZmwYcaAmiqEALw_wcB

Yes, Richard, and they note the Freelander 1 below in the text, I had not seen your reply.

Here some postings about stalks
Morgan stalks

Having read all the threads and posts on the subject I'm left baffled as to sources So please double check Paul but my research suggests the wiper stalk assembly fitted to a range of Land Rover's is Lucas STC4016. Click below for source.



The matching light switch is Lucas STC4017 (SQB160) which I have just ordered as a spare as mine can cause intermittency if turned too far.

Prices vary enormously with wiper switch the more expensive but you can buy the pair new for under £100 here delivered.

Note above are switches only not the central indicator self cancelling mechanism.

Yep that is the bit Richard. I have a spare from my old Roadster when the pcb was failing.

Slightly off topic but just found this video on removing stalk light switch on a LR Discovery, as later Mogs use the same Lucas STC4017 (SQB160) switch and I've just bought a spare. Note steering wheel does not need to be removed and imagine there is better access to the two screws that need removing once cowls are off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmmpfvFfy20

Useful part starts 2:20 in. Note the two screws mentioned are supplied fully tightened on replacement switch and after removal and clicking into place need to be fitted through tabs on central plastic moulding before tightening back into new switch body to fully secure.

To get back on topic video on removal of the other wiper stalk switch Lucas STC4016 with upgrade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRCS9aJS28c

Thanks Richard, although the cut off screwdriver is a bit bodgetastic , just use a pozi bit out of a power driver and a small ratchet ring spanner

Agreed Jon, good engineering practice and video making don't seem to go hand in hand. Sometimes better than the "here's one I made earlier" style though where the job shown takes seconds compared with hours in practice.

I was amused by the captioned "this bit was fiddly" in second video by contrast.

Gentlemen, thank you all for your contributions, it has certainly given me a few thoughts and ideas to work on. Hopefully I will find the right part and can get back to this topic with my findings, which might also help others.

I've named him the 'Barnsley Bodger' after watching him attack clips with a Stanley knife, and stab elec connectors with a large pozi driver, he should stick to creasoting sheds !

Paul although the ARP4 had a plethora of differences with mainstream Classic production, I cannot for the life of me see why MMC would have departed from adoption of the normal readily available stalk switches given they look identical. The outlay and time in developing differing wiper control just for the sake of offering something different wouldn't have made economic sense.

Having taken the opportunity recently to delve into the above mentioned Lucas STC4016 (see above for source) wiper stalk application I can say that it's heavily integrated with the six pin WEHRLE 60 201 002 wiper relay as shown below to implement the single wipes, wash wipe and delay functions available on the switch as well as constant two speeds.





Presence of this on your car would be further confirmation although there are alternatives seemingly offering the same functions.

Look forward to hearing your updates.