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#79464 - 19/01/12 09:17 AM Re: CO2=3.84 g/km ?Car Tax in the UK [Re: wiscos]
Graham, G4FUJ Offline
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Originally Posted By: wiscos
I don't think 384 g/Km is possible - that would mean about 16 mpg.


Unless Clarkson was driving for the emissions tests? laugh2
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#79467 - 19/01/12 10:37 AM Re: CO2=3.84 g/km ?Car Tax in the UK [Re: Salcombe]
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Appears that UK road tax will end up as either £260 or £460 (first year £580 or £1000), depending which of those two CO2 emissions figures is correct (that's assuming that attempts to qualify for tricycle classification -under 450Kg kerb weight - have failed. As a trike, it would have been £74 pa.). Ouch! doh
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#79471 - 19/01/12 12:09 PM Re: CO2=3.84 g/km ?Car Tax in the UK [Re: vincentvg]
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Registered: 16/10/11
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I understand from someone who was at the factory recently that they are taking the weight issue very seriously, and are weighing each component in the car to see exactly where the weight is, and they seem confident that they could easily reduce the weight to the necesary level to get into the cyclecar tax band, time, however will tell!

Car levels of tax are a huge dampner and will go a long way in spoiling the ownership experience.
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#79472 - 19/01/12 12:14 PM Re: CO2=3.84 g/km ?Car Tax in the UK [Re: vincentvg]
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Originally Posted By: vincentvg
Appears that UK road tax will end up as either £260 or £460 (first year £580 or £1000), depending which of those two CO2 emissions figures is correct (that's assuming that attempts to qualify for tricycle classification -under 450Kg kerb weight - have failed. As a trike, it would have been £74 pa.). Ouch! doh


Im surprised that Morgan would have made such an error as that is a huge difference in expense passed onto the customer for someone over on that side of the pond. Fortunately for those of us in the US, it doesn't work that way. I do wonder if as time goes by that Morgan will make 3W that reach under the 450Kg limit for those of you over there. Quite possibly, Morgan may have already fixed these issues as it wouldnt be the first time that Mogwire was not correct.

Also, I would be shocked if the CO2 numbers are that high considering how much S&S does with emission standards both for their company and how much other companies pay to have S&S help them with emissions. BTW, the current lineup of HD motorcycles, the highers CO2 I could find was 147.6, with more of them being in the 120 range. I would be shocked that the S&S motor was that much higher.


Edited by Krod (19/01/12 12:15 PM)

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#79479 - 19/01/12 03:01 PM Re: CO2=3.84 g/km ?Car Tax in the UK [Re: vincentvg]
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Originally Posted By: vincentvg
Appears that UK road tax will end up as either £260 or £460 (first year £580 or £1000), depending which of those two CO2 emissions figures is correct (that's assuming that attempts to qualify for tricycle classification -under 450Kg kerb weight - have failed. As a trike, it would have been £74 pa.). Ouch! doh

This whole Road Tax thing mystifies me. There need to be a 'Fairness Factor' built in by the Boffins (with half a brain).
I have seen a Massive Ford Based Camper Van and a recent Ford Puma Engined Land Rover SWB Defender, both taxed for £125.00 idea

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#79488 - 19/01/12 04:18 PM Re: CO2=3.84 g/km ?Car Tax in the UK [Re: Frank 4x4]
PaulJ Offline
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Has anybody tried to contact S&S directly to ask them? It would be in their own interest to correct any misinformation being put out, we could also ask why the power has mysteriously shrunk from 115bhp to 80bhp - according to Mogwire anyway.
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#79505 - 19/01/12 06:24 PM Re: CO2=3.84 g/km ?Car Tax in the UK [Re: PaulJ]
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Originally Posted By: PaulJ
... according to Mogwire anyway.


thinking "Mogwire"? idea .... cowboy ..... doh

rtm .... nono

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#79506 - 19/01/12 06:31 PM Re: CO2=3.84 g/km ?Car Tax in the UK [Re: Boshly]
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Registered: 11/05/09
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Originally Posted By: Boshly
Originally Posted By: PaulJ
... according to Mogwire anyway.


thinking "Mogwire"? idea .... cowboy ..... doh

rtm .... nono

innocent

getcoat





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#79507 - 19/01/12 06:35 PM Re: CO2=3.84 g/km ?Car Tax in the UK [Re: Easter]
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Registered: 11/12/08
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If the tax is too dear
Just tax half a year........ grin2
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#79519 - 19/01/12 08:51 PM Re: CO2=3.84 g/km ?Car Tax in the UK [Re: DaveW]
Salcombe Offline
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Registered: 12/03/11
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The figure is CO not CO2 it seems. Where that leaves the banding I am not sure, but as you say perhaps a 6 months disc in the first year is a way of keeping the costs down.
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