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#82896 - 24/02/12 11:22 PM Re: Porsche Stolen (now Found) in Farnham, Surrey [Re: Cicerone]
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Yeh, but as a pikey firend of mine tells me, nothing beats a steel container, so if they are pros then he's b*ggered!

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#82973 - 25/02/12 04:40 PM Re: Porsche Stolen (now Found) in Farnham, Surrey [Re: GLLHG]
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VHF goes through containers, I can assure you!

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#83013 - 25/02/12 08:07 PM Re: Porsche Stolen (now Found) in Farnham, Surrey [Re: Cicerone]
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Reminds me of an article in the Telegraph from last month.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion...tique-fair.html
I know its not PC but when you have the doors flung wide open---you have to expect some of the dross to turn up take advantage to try and empty the place---no doubt they have been massively disadvantaged in their earlier miserable lives. Best I end here as I am warming to the subject.
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#83220 - 27/02/12 07:47 PM Re: Porsche Stolen (now Found) in Farnham, Surrey [Re: David of SW19]
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Originally Posted By: Cicerone
VHF goes through containers, I can assure you!


Any radio transmitter and aerial in a metal box will have it's range reduced dramatically. Hard to put a figure on it but I suspect what might go for 15 miles or more in open country might be struggling to go much more than 15 yards outside a metal box.

So yes, VHF does go through a container, but at such reduced strength, unless you are in the same yard, you'd be lucky to find it.

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#83340 - 28/02/12 04:53 PM Re: Porsche Stolen (now Found) in Farnham, Surrey [Re: A11OGE]
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Originally Posted By: A11OGE
So there is a Porsche god after all. goodnight


If there is, he drives this: -




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#83344 - 28/02/12 05:10 PM Re: Porsche Stolen (now Found) in Farnham, Surrey [Re: Martyn Culling]
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It's much more than 15 yards, a colleague and I once uncovered a stolen JCB inside an iso after the tracker set off from several hundred metres away. Promise!

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#83376 - 28/02/12 07:39 PM Re: Porsche Stolen (now Found) in Farnham, Surrey [Re: Cicerone]
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Yes but it's not miles. Much over a few hundred yards and the signal will be sufficiently weak to vanish into the background noise. Put that container into a higher rf noise environment and you might not even find it at 15 yards.
Simple physics, which encompasses radio theory. Sorry, near 40 years in radio - both professional and hobby...
Have to say, finding that JCB was a lucky shot! Good one! thumbs

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#83520 - 29/02/12 04:44 PM Re: Porsche Stolen (now Found) in Farnham, Surrey [Re: Graham, G4FUJ]
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My figure of 15 yards was assuming a typically radio noisy urban environment. Should one find a low radio noise location the effective range will increase dramatically. 150 yards - yes I believe you, although I think you were lucky with either the location or the time you looked/listened.

Graham I think knows, but I am actually a UK radio amateur (G8UCP) and after university (BSc in Electrical Engineering) , spent 8 years fixing BBC radio and tv transmitters, followed by many more years answering and advising on all broadcast reception topics.
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