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Email fraud

Posted By: Gambalunga

Email fraud - 07/11/19 07:09 PM

A friend received ab email from her brother a couple of days ago. The email stated that he was in hospital and undergoing therapy for cancer. It went on to say that he hadn't told anyone because he did not want anyone to know at this time so please keep it quite. It then stated that he desperately needed a sum of money and gave instructions on how to send it.

Naturally our friend was very upset and tried to phone her brother and started to get really worried when her brother did not answer the phone.

Finally her brother saw here missed calls and called her back. It turns out that her brother's email account had been hacked and that it was a complete fraud, The fraudster, having access to previous emails, was able to put together a convincing story which seemed to be real. Fortunately she did not send the requested money but the whole episode has really shaken her.

Needless to say they have both taken action to change passwords etc.

This may be may be an indication of a new type of fraud, so if you get an email like that be aware that it is most probably an attempt at fraud and don't panic. .

As they say: forewarned is forearmed.
Posted By: IvorMog

Re: Email fraud - 07/11/19 07:19 PM

Thanks for the heads up Peter.
Posted By: Graham, G4FUJ

Re: Email fraud - 07/11/19 07:22 PM

This type of email fraud has been going on for several years.
The number I have received from friends "stuck" abroad / hospital &c. with insufficient funds over the last few years beggars belief.
Posted By: Heinz

Re: Email fraud - 07/11/19 07:41 PM

I also think that fraud is becoming more and more personified. So is blackmail.
I got a mail a year ago that showed me an old of my passwords. Even if I had changed this password time ago, I was very shocked at first.

Then it was said that my camera was switched on when I had watched a porn video. And they would have recorded explicit actions from me. If I would not pay, all my email contacts would get an email with a video of my actions. Because that never happened I was confident and I didn't react to the blackmail. Even if I had done explicit action I would not pay. Later I googled this topic and the police was aware of this kind of blackmail and warned people to react in any way..
But how terrible if someone really used the iPad that way and he is very shocked at the first moment and some people do ill-considered actions and pay.
Posted By: Alistair

Re: Email fraud - 07/11/19 08:08 PM

This is called spear phishing. Spend a little time crafting a specific attack to cause reaction they feel worried about and want to help.

You find out enough from a persons on-line sochul medier content to craft a panic. Your account has been hacked. The dog has been run over, pay the vet etc etc and uses a combination attack of SMS, email, soshul medier messages to cause a panic payment. By the time you look at the facts it is too late. The payment cannot be recovered by the bank.

Verify verify verify.

If there is not a fact you can say is cast iron then ask a question, have a safe word, test with a wrong answer and see if they respond. Have an agreement with your family that if the fuzz hits the fan they will put a well known name, word, place in the email to authenticate the issue. Not your first car, your pet, your place of birth. Too many people have answered those stupid quizzes on Farcebook and surrendered that information already.

Every time someone invents a new benefit a scumbag finds a new way to exploit it.
Posted By: ewn

Re: Email fraud - 07/11/19 09:32 PM

My friends and family know better than to ask me for money, shysters need not apply.
Posted By: +8Rich

Re: Email fraud - 07/11/19 09:54 PM

I have had a few of these over recent years and they are pretty specific but it's quite easy to check the authenticity, tbh it's a pretty naïve form of criminality. It's as well to be aware this type of thing is doing the rounds though.
Posted By: Gambalunga

Re: Email fraud - 08/11/19 12:08 AM

In this case I believe the email was crafted with names and places. Though I have not seen it I believe it was sent using the brothers email account which means that the fraudster got the password to the account and was able to read previous emails to get the details. Fortunately our friend was able to contact her brother but until he finally returned her call she was very worried about him. Neither of them are young people.

If I can I will try to find out more tomorrow and, if the email has not been deleted, I will have a look at it too. I will also try to find out what action they have taken with their email accounts.
Posted By: Dean-Royal

Re: Email fraud - 08/11/19 06:46 AM

Had one last week informing they have all the evidence of me watching porn on the web and if i dont pay 800bt/c into an account they would send a mail to all my contacts informing them.....who gives a feck, all my contacts know i watch porn.
😅😆
Posted By: Bonesie

Re: Email fraud - 08/11/19 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by Dean-Royal
Had one last week informing they have all the evidence of me watching porn on the web and if i dont pay 800bt/c into an account they would send a mail to all my contacts informing them.....who gives a feck, all my contacts know i watch porn.
😅😆


rofl
Posted By: Alistair

Re: Email fraud - 08/11/19 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by Dean-Royal
Had one last week informing they have all the evidence of me watching porn on the web and if i dont pay 800bt/c into an account they would send a mail to all my contacts informing them.....who gives a feck, all my contacts know i watch porn.
😅😆


Now if they said they had caught you acting in it they could have at least asked for a decent amount and made it worth their while.
Posted By: Jack The Lad

Re: Email fraud - 08/11/19 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by ewn
My friends and family know better than to ask me for money, shysters need not apply.





A typical Jock. Dads family come from Aberdeen need I say more .
Posted By: Jack The Lad

Re: Email fraud - 08/11/19 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by Dean-Royal
Had one last week informing they have all the evidence of me watching porn on the web and if i dont pay 800bt/c into an account they would send a mail to all my contacts informing them.....who gives a feck, all my contacts know i watch porn.
😅😆



Watching it, the only porn I get is the mog at least I can strip her down and she is a great ride . I have had a few laughs as June calls it the Mistress . I wound up Junes hair dresser telling her I had a mistress and June did not mind as I enjoyed servicing her etc etc . She was going red in the face . On the subject of porn . June wanted to go to Holland I said OK so Jnr wanted to come then bring her pal . I had to keep a watch on the 2 of them on the ship . Horny ship staff and daughter keep telling me to go to bed . When there they refused to have a look in the red light area . I ended up in women's clothes shops . The only laugh I got was watching a Dutch bloke picking his crumpets black silky stuff . He held them to the window rubbed them against his face then put them against her . Better than a porn show . I was chatting to the bloke and he said " you Brits are way out of touch ". I told him come over to Newcastle on a w/end the women will eat him alive .

On the subject of SEX . Here is a funny story . As you know June drags me around Durham City for long walks its a while ago. As we got into Durham market area June wanted to go into Tesco ( the old Woolworths ) . June drags me in and my shy mood started . While June had picked the food and gone to the checkout . I had been standing looking about the lady sitting behind her till looked like her world had collapsed . So I said "cheer up smile" She replied " Why " I said its your lucky day " . To which she said " whats so lucky about today " . Quick as a flash my grin came up and I said "YOU ARE TALKING TO THE WORLDS FASTEST SEDUCER " her face still dull . I said Why did'nt you enjoy it . That was it she started to laugh could not sit on her chair or work her till everyone was watching her and she just had fits of laughter everyone watching all the tills stopped as the place was in stitches . June came over to me "time to go "
Posted By: The Austrian

Re: Email fraud - 08/11/19 10:58 AM

I am just off the phone after another nice communication with a guy from Microsoft headquarters who wanted to offer help.
Beside his strange asian accent he mixed up the United States of America with the United States of Germany (!). I kept him on the phone for some 10minutes until I told him I am an Apple user...
Next time I will try to spend at least 15minutes of their valuable time😉
Posted By: Anthony4/4

Re: Email fraud - 08/11/19 11:34 AM

I've been a victim of these criminals about a year ago! I have my own company and I am always very keen when it concerns money! Never the less the performed being my sister in law, and started with: Hi Toine, I have a new phone and number, so can replace the old one, aso aso. Costs me nearly € 2000,00! I still have stomach ache about this matter. I could not believe this could happen to me, but it did!
So to all of you: watch out!

Originally Posted by Gambalunga
A friend received ab email from her brother a couple of days ago. The email stated that he was in hospital and undergoing therapy for cancer. It went on to say that he hadn't told anyone because he did not want anyone to know at this time so please keep it quite. It then stated that he desperately needed a sum of money and gave instructions on how to send it.

Naturally our friend was very upset and tried to phone her brother and started to get really worried when her brother did not answer the phone.

Finally her brother saw here missed calls and called her back. It turns out that her brother's email account had been hacked and that it was a complete fraud, The fraudster, having access to previous emails, was able to put together a convincing story which seemed to be real. Fortunately she did not send the requested money but the whole episode has really shaken her.

Needless to say they have both taken action to change passwords etc.

This may be may be an indication of a new type of fraud, so if you get an email like that be aware that it is most probably an attempt at fraud and don't panic. .

As they say: forewarned is forearmed.
Posted By: sospan

Re: Email fraud - 08/11/19 12:38 PM

Not on computer but similar phone scam......
Few years ago a call from someone asking me to sell some shares I had and invest in his company’s scheme.
A busy talker with verbal overload. Told him to send stuff in the post. None arrived.
A year later another call. Recognised his voice. Asked him why nothing had been sent. More verbal overload/sales pitch. I put phone on speaker, went to make coffee, left him jabbering away. Got back and heard him asking ifI was still there. Told him about the coffee. He grunted and hung up.
He would have got my details as a shareholder easily as it is available anyway.
I used to have fun with some of these but now just let them go to voicemail, they usually hang up.
I did answer with. “Dyfed Powys Police, how can I help?”
Calls arediverted to us as part of a major investigation”
Quick hanging up.....
Posted By: Paul F

Re: Email fraud - 08/11/19 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by The Austrian
I am just off the phone after another nice communication with a guy from Microsoft headquarters who wanted to offer help.
Beside his strange asian accent he mixed up the United States of America with the United States of Germany (!). I kept him on the phone for some 10minutes until I told him I am an Apple user...
Next time I will try to spend at least 15minutes of their valuable time😉


The last scammer who phoned trying to get control of my computer started by asking about which keys I had on the keyboard - smart so and so had a script to split Mac users from PC users. Managed 4 minutes before I told him to go away.
Posted By: +8Rich

Re: Email fraud - 08/11/19 09:35 PM


"Call Guardian" stops them in their tracks on the phone and they never leave a message and then you can block the number.
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