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Fancy this?

Posted By: M3W55

Fancy this? - 31/01/22 02:50 PM

Wells Vertige

For the same price as the forthcoming M3W. Just saying.
Posted By: DaveW

Re: Fancy this? - 31/01/22 03:08 PM

Very nice. Shades of Ginetta from the front, and Alpine from the rear,
Posted By: DavidR

Re: Fancy this? - 31/01/22 05:05 PM

That's a nice looking little car, seems to be a competitive package will I look forward to seeing one in the flesh.
Posted By: +8Rich

Re: Fancy this? - 31/01/22 05:11 PM

That's nice and with those doors there is a good chance it will share at least one trait with Morgan too innocent
I hope they do well with it grin2
Posted By: Graham, G4FUJ

Re: Fancy this? - 31/01/22 05:22 PM

Looks good to me! Likewise, I hope they do well.
Posted By: CooperMan

Re: Fancy this? - 31/01/22 05:51 PM

Good luck too 'em, but they need to be careful with claims like "a 100% British supply chain" I'm afraid in this day and age fully certified & traced back that is impossible
Posted By: Alistair

Re: Fancy this? - 31/01/22 07:15 PM

I saw it in one of the car mags, I have to say it is remarkable and great work.

As a happily registered (ex) Aberdonian it is not often I say this but they can probably increase the price a bit and it will remain good value.

You have to ask where this puts the likes of TVR and several others at this moment.
Posted By: Max5

Re: Fancy this? - 31/01/22 07:27 PM

The Elise is dead, long live the Elise, or perhaps I should say a civilised Ginetta. Looks superb and a relatively simple spec., but like many of these start-ups, will it survive? I hope so.
Posted By: M3W55

Re: Fancy this? - 31/01/22 07:41 PM

This is what the FT says about it:

Creator Robin Wells has focused on producing the ultimate expression of the two-seater British sports car with a postwar feel (think Jaguar D-Type crossed with Ferrari Dino, but in a package the size of a Mazda MX-5) but totally modern spec, including a 200-litre boot. What’s extraordinary is the car’s accessibility, with a launch price of £45,000-£50,000. It’s exclusive because Wells will produce no more than 25 cars a year, not by virtue of price. At that level we’re not talking about hand-cast V12 engines but a humbler four-cylinder Ford unit that sits transversely mounted just behind the driver, separated only by a “pane” of double-glazed glass. The design of the car flows from nose to tail, Wells himself having trained as a musician and likening the car to a visual symphony, going so far as to design the gear knob, carved from African rosewood, to resemble a conductor’s baton.

The outcome of five years’ hard graft working with Robin Hall of Hall Engineering and Design, who was involved in the creation of the BMW Mini, the car is now available to test-drive in Warwickshire while a new, environmentally friendly assembly facility is being built on a nearby farm.

A successful businessman and a self-described petrolhead, Wells built kit cars as a teenager and has his own collection of supercars. He’s been able to self-fund the venture entirely (“No one in their right mind goes into low-volume sports-car manufacturing,” he jokes) and hopes that with the Wells Vertige he has created a vehicle that is not just “a car for life”, but will live on as a classic.
Posted By: John V6

Re: Fancy this? - 31/01/22 07:56 PM

Very tasty
Posted By: Craig Jezz

Re: Fancy this? - 31/01/22 08:36 PM

Looks good 👍

Is that £45,000 - £50,000 OTR ?
Posted By: howard

Re: Fancy this? - 31/01/22 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by Max5
The Elise is dead, long live the Elise, or perhaps I should say a civilised Ginetta. Looks superb and a relatively simple spec., but like many of these start-ups, will it survive? I hope so.


That just about sums it up. I wonder if they have the chassis tuning skills that Lotus have though.

I certainly think that there is a gap in the market for a true sports car that isnt as ordinary as an MX5, Supra, Boxter etc.
Posted By: OZ 4/4

Re: Fancy this? - 31/01/22 09:31 PM

Looks very sharp.
Great value if build quality and reliability are up to snuff because we know that's been the pitfall for some no matter how good they look.....
Posted By: SimonH

Re: Fancy this? - 31/01/22 10:39 PM

I’m really surprised with how local this is to us, that I didn’t know about this/ haven’t been asked to make anything for it

We do prototype work for a lot of the “names” locally and some further afield too…
Posted By: RichardV6

Re: Fancy this? - 01/02/22 07:40 AM

Great looks and plenty of fenestration.

[Linked Image]

Is that a retro wind down window handle I see or the door release thinking

[Linked Image]

Love the clean, simple almost retro cockpit as well.

Posted By: AndyrIch

Re: Fancy this? - 01/02/22 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by CooperMan
Good luck too 'em, but they need to be careful with claims like "a 100% British supply chain" I'm afraid in this day and age fully certified & traced back that is impossible


Surely that just means they've bought it Via a UK company rather than made in UK, unless Sony have relocated & we now have African Rosewood (for the gear knob) growing here.

Having said that I love the look of it. Sort of reminds me of my Original Lotus Europa with added curves.
Posted By: Graham, G4FUJ

Re: Fancy this? - 01/02/22 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by RichardV6
Great looks and plenty of fenestration.

Is that a retro wind down window handle I see or the door release thinking

[Linked Image]

Love the clean, simple almost retro cockpit as well.

Looks as thought the door release is ahead of the window winder.
Originally Posted by AndyrIch


... I love the look of it. Sort of reminds me of my Original Lotus Europa with added curves.


I thought the same when I first looked at the photos smile
Posted By: CooperMan

Re: Fancy this? - 01/02/22 09:05 AM

Parked near this last year, up at the Oil Can Cafe

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Posted By: lowebird

Re: Fancy this? - 01/02/22 10:57 AM

A very nice looking car but, after all the effort that went into making it so nice, what a shame the designers didn't consider the placing of our horrible number plates. It really needs an original small Italian one !!
Posted By: Ray

Re: Fancy this? - 01/02/22 12:30 PM

OH BOY that's a nice looking car. Makes the Davrian I used to own, look like a garden shed.
Posted By: Lordofthewings

Re: Fancy this? - 01/02/22 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Ray
OH BOY that's a nice looking car. Makes the Davrian I used to own, look like a garden shed.

I've been out in the garden several times this afternoon, and no matter how long I stare at the old garden shed it just won't turn into a Davrian. Rats !
Posted By: Graham, G4FUJ

Re: Fancy this? - 01/02/22 03:48 PM

rofl rofl
Posted By: Ray

Re: Fancy this? - 01/02/22 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by Lordofthewings
Originally Posted by Ray
OH BOY that's a nice looking car. Makes the Davrian I used to own, look like a garden shed.

I've been out in the garden several times this afternoon, and no matter how long I stare at the old garden shed it just won't turn into a Davrian. Rats !
. Buy more fiberglass.
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Posted By: Rovert

Re: Fancy this? - 02/02/22 12:13 PM

I hope this goes well but I suspect it may end up the same as (the rather wonderful) Zenos.
Posted By: Image

Re: Fancy this? - 02/02/22 12:31 PM

Life gets more and more difficult for anyone trying to break into the car industry .... modern cars are just too competent and fast ... when the likes of Lotus and TVR broke they were able to do so with cars that gave a clear performance advantage over your average banger. Now your average banger has performance beyond what can be used to the full either legally or sensibly on the public road. Likewise earlier startups that were actually reliable at a time when most cars were often marginal in actually chugging up the road for the required journey could earn a place in the market.

Modern cars are just too good in general to make competition from a standing start likely

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Posted By: Alistair

Re: Fancy this? - 02/02/22 06:13 PM

Add to this the issue with bringing anything based on a petrol/diesel motor facing a fast closing window and it really is a little nuts these people make the effort. Good on them.

The Gordon Murray GMA50
Jenson being involved in the Radford
TVR, ahem
Wells Vertige, amazing with such few resources that they have done this.

It will be interesting to see what the Aerials of this world do next. I still fancy one of their insane bikes.
Posted By: Esprit

Re: Fancy this? - 24/02/22 11:06 PM

Davrian? The builders working on my house a few years ago rented a portable toilet made by 'Davlav'. I think it was made of something like GRP so may have been a related product 😉
Posted By: PaulJ

Re: Fancy this? - 26/02/22 11:24 AM

A very interesting concept and I hope it succeeds, however the very pretty and similar Alpine A110 is arguably even prettier, and didn't I read recently that they were going to stop production because they weren't selling enough. Not a good omen for the Wells then.

At the moment, if I was in the market, which I am not, I would rather get an Alpine I think.
Posted By: Heinz

Re: Fancy this? - 30/03/22 02:12 PM

A wonderful affordable little sports car with the right power to match the weight. I see the Alpine Renault, on the other hand, as already too grown up. It's here more of an Elise positioning with great taste and beautiful aesthetics. Of course I take seriously the various concerns expressed here in the thread. In summary, I would say it is not only an attractive retro sports car, "back to the roots", but it is to be feared that the concept and idea itself are already retro. I wish much success and would not be averse if I did not have my beloved Elise for 15 years.
Posted By: Perry_P_M3W

Re: Fancy this? - 30/03/22 09:44 PM

Autocar Review - Wells Vertige
Posted By: Heinz

Re: Fancy this? - 31/03/22 07:25 AM

Thanks for the link, Perry. The background story makes the car even more sympathetic and interesting. When it comes to production numbers, the word "waiting list" takes on yet another new meaning. There would have to be a waiting list of friends and acquaintances.
Posted By: TBM

Re: Fancy this? - 31/03/22 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by Heinz
Thanks for the link, Perry. The background story makes the car even more sympathetic and interesting. When it comes to production numbers, the word "waiting list" takes on yet another new meaning. There would have to be a waiting list of friends and acquaintances.


I'd be surprised at any car that doesn't have a waiting list - my Mrs has just ordered a company car. Due to her lowly paygrade it's a bog standard VW Golf without any frills or upgrades allowed. Delivery date is 28/04/23!
Posted By: Image

Re: Fancy this? - 31/03/22 10:16 AM

Another niche car .... seems to be a custom based on the Aston Martin chassis .... not likely to make much of a dent in the mass market as they're only making ten of them

https://baevantare.co.uk/

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