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The Lap of Scotland - 2010

Posted By: Aeroman

The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 12/06/09 08:29 PM

I thought that it was a good idea to open a separate thread on this topic and I've made it a sticky one. grin2

"On a completely separate topic, I would like to do "The Lap of Scotland" invented I believe by 'Northo' of PH when he was involved with Rio Prestige.

The following sites are also relevant:

Google Map showing good drivers roads in Scotland

You Tube - driving in Scotland

Some great photos here too...

Maybe we should organise a TM tour of "The Lap of Scotland" - are you interested and are there any other takers?"

So far the usual suspects have expressed an interest in such a tour, or to be specific:

109er - Andy - Trad
Boshly - Andy - Aero 8
Aeroman _ Brian - AeroMax
AsboJohn - John - Aero 8
mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8
Graham (G4FUJ) - Graham - Trad
1560 - Steven - AeroMax
Hopwood - Geoff - Aero 8
GF - Simon - AeroMax (I'm sure we can twist his arm) slap

I think to make accommodation easy, we should probably restrict it to something like 12-cars or so, so get your names down guys if you are interested. cheers

mr_tony has said that "if there are enough takers I know a man who can put a fine trip together for us smile " and as we are all fairly busy, and it will take a degree of organisation, this might be a good idea. I think that if it is professionally done, then you need an MSA Permit so it may complicate things, but perhaps Rich can post in more detail. rtm

Has anybody else got views on this? I have some contacts for distillery visits, if we decide to go that route. wine eat woohoo

Cheers
Brian

P.S. Just found this site site, as Asbo said I'd forgotten how good the roads were in Scotland.
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/06/09 07:20 AM

some Belgian Club-rides in Scotland (and ...)
http://www.routeyou.com/group/view/2329/morgan-sports-car-club-belgium.nl

count me in woohoo
don't forget, the Europeans (somestick) need to come with the boat from Rotterdam
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/06/09 07:57 AM

Good plan. How about including an island or two? I like Skye, but have never been to the Orkneys etc.

Which ferry do we European Mainlanders take? Rotterdam - Newcastle?

Posted By: Brian_W

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/06/09 08:34 AM

Yvonne and I would be up for this.
Brian W
(Very rare Series 2 Aero)
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/06/09 09:39 AM

The chap who I know runs a professional driving tour company and is all approved licenced etc so I can assure you it would be a professionally run trip with good hotels routebooks etc

Away in devon this weekend with poor connection so I will do a proper post on Sunday. In the meantime the more takers we can get for a trip and an idea between us of when and I can take it forward for an outline itinerary and costing.
Posted By: Andy

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/06/09 01:13 PM

Well, now we are back in Scotland and despite the fact that we have had a residence here for 32 years I am certain there are bits we have never seen. So put us down as interested parties to add some Trad balence to the party.

Andy & Carol
2009 +4
Posted By: Aeroman

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/06/09 01:19 PM

Potential Lappers
1. 109er - Andy - Trad
2. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8
3. Aeroman _ Brian - AeroMax
4. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8
5. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8
6. Graham (G4FUJ) - Graham - Trad
7. 1560 - Steven - AeroMax
8. Hopwood - Geoff - Aero 8
9. GF - Simon - AeroMax (I'm sure we can twist his arm) slap
10. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8 (very rare Series II)

Look forward to your post Rich, when you're back in civilisation. hide

Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/06/09 05:15 PM

Right then chaps - with a web connection at last I'll provide a bit of background.

I know Nick the owner / operator of dettaglio from my days as a Maserati 3200 owner. IF you check out the website below you'll also see a certain Larkspur Blue Series 1 Aero sitting outside a few nice hotels in the pics for the Itallian lakes / Bavaria tour.

http://www.dettaglio.co.uk/

I've been on several of Dettaglio's events before and they are very well run, thought out and put together.

They are experienced, professional and bonded by all the right permits etc to run accross not just the UK but Europe, Africa and beyond. All the trips I've been on with them involve a mechanic's car coming along for the trip as well as one or more of the company staff (usually Nick) as host / tour guide and fixer of issues.

The style / cost / duration / of the whole trip will be entirely up to us to define, and this ranges from us wanting zero backup, to tour leader, camera cars and mechanics.

In terms of the 'lap of scotland' - I already have a basic itinerary to work from, so I'll go to Nick with the info I have and ask nicely if he can give us an outline pitch of what a 'standard' trip would cost - with mechanic support and someone from the company heading the tour and see what the cost will be.

Once we have a yardstick to work from we can customise as necessary to fit the consensus on budget and locations etc.
Distillery visits and your contact there Aeroman will no doubt be invaluable and we will I'm sure work them into the program, along with any hidden gems of roads that anyone in the group can suggest.

I'm thinking for the basic pitch I'd look at springtime (may?)- but we'll have to get heads together and determine what timing is realistic for everyone.
Posted By: Robbie

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/06/09 08:21 PM

Folks,
I too may be interested in this -- my ancestors are from a village close to Crieff so I need an excuse to go to Scotland to look up the records. This sounds like a good reason to go!!!

Please keep me in mind when organising!
Posted By: Aeroman

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/06/09 10:07 PM

Potential Lappers
1. 109er - Andy - Trad sherlock
2. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8 cowboy
3. Aeroman _ Brian - AeroMax oldgit
4. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8 cop
5. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8
6. Graham (G4FUJ) - Graham - Trad hippy
7. 1560 - Steven - AeroMax
8. Hopwood - Geoff - Aero 8 tumbleweed
9. GF - Simon - AeroMax (I'm sure we can twist his arm) flyingpig
10. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8 (very rare Series II) thinking
11. Robbie - Robbie - Trad
Posted By: woolfie

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/06/09 10:46 PM

i'd be intrested; i am taking the aero up to Skye and Trossachs this august as well.
Posted By: Rbt Aero8

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/06/09 11:09 PM

There is also a Zeebrugge-Rosyth ferry. Rosyth is north of Edinburgh beside the Forth Road Bridge and Forth Railway Bridge. It was operated by Blue Star until last year but has now been taken over by Norfolk Line I believe. There is no finer way to enter Scotland than beneath the Forth Railway Bridge!

See http://www.norfolkline.com/ferry/?campaign=google&gclid=CInt8NW6iJsCFWIB4wodyjp3pg#06140246

My personal favourite roads are Fort William to Arisaig and Lairg to Rogart. The Trossachs are superb for scenery as is the Loch Lomond side road and beyond to Inverary etc. Essentially you can't go far wrong!

Robert
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 14/06/09 08:21 AM

First place I ever took my first Morgan - great roads, great scenery great driving. Spent a week driving walking and fishing on Skye staying round the corner from the Talisker distillery. Fabulous!

As said I'll speak with Nick and get advice on timings to go and an approx cost for a 4/5 day lap of some of the best roads. He already runs at least one open trip to scotland a year so will have the contacts for accommodation and key routes well covered.
Posted By: cerealsurfer

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 14/06/09 10:02 AM

Missprint and I would be interested..... depends what dates you have in mind
Posted By: Brian_W

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 14/06/09 01:00 PM

Apparently Scotland is well known for its midges, which are most prolific in June, July and August, so best we avoid those months with open topped cars! Or is this just a myth?
Brian W
Posted By: Andy

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 14/06/09 01:22 PM

Its definiyely NOT a myth although its much more of a problem on the west coast than the east.

P.S Brian, are you not going to add me to the list?
Posted By: Aeroman

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 14/06/09 04:31 PM

Originally Posted By Andy
P.S Brian, are you not going to add me to the list?


Sorry Andy, been out with the grand-kids. Other names added as well smile

Potential Lappers
1. 109er - Andy - Trad sherlock
2. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8 cowboy
3. Aeroman _ Brian - AeroMax oldgit
4. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8 cop
5. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8
6. Graham (G4FUJ) - Graham - Trad hippy
7. 1560 - Steven - AeroMax
8. Hopwood - Geoff - Aero 8 tumbleweed
9. GF - Simon - AeroMax (I'm sure we can twist his arm) flyingpig
10. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8 (very rare Series II) thinking
11. Robbie - Robbie - Trad
12. Woolfie - Woolfie - Aero 8
13. CerealSurfer - Andrew and Anne - Aero 8
14. Andy - Andy - Trad
Should be quite a tour, if everyone does indeed make it
Posted By: Aeroman

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 14/06/09 04:41 PM

Originally Posted By mr_tony
As said I'll speak with Nick and get advice on timings to go and an approx cost for a 4/5 day lap of some of the best roads. He already runs at least one open trip to scotland a year so will have the contacts for accommodation and key routes well covered.


Well as there are no other volunteers Rich, it looks like your plan has been accepted thumbs May also sounds a good month before we really get into the summer Mogging season. grin2

It may be an idea to have two grades of hotels, one for the more impecunious amongst us (like me frown ) and one for the richer b's who want to spoil themselves. wine

Brian

Posted By: DaveW

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 14/06/09 04:56 PM

Hmm. Very interesting. For now I'll keep my powder dry, but I'm tenuously interested. The reason is that MrsW wants a return trip to Scotland. We haven't been that far North for quite a few years and she wants to visit the Isle of Skye. Whether she could put up with you lot over a few days however, is questionable ..... grin2
Anyway when we know when, and where, I'll be in a better position to take a view. We were planning a Scotland trip maybe next year anyway, and now the daughter has flown the nest we have freedom.... well, some anyway. laugh2
I do enjoy a sail on the Walter Scott on Loch Katrine - very Jules Verne, and right up my street being steam powered. nerd
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 14/06/09 05:34 PM

Originally Posted By Aeroman

Well as there are no other volunteers Rich, it looks like your plan has been accepted thumbs May also sounds a good month before we really get into the summer Mogging season. grin2



Happy to go ahead and get the options laid out. Lets get an approx cost / itinerary and see who fancies what. smile
Posted By: Rbt Aero8

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 14/06/09 07:59 PM

The midges are for real!

Robert
Posted By: Aeroman

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 14/06/09 08:33 PM

Potential Lappers
1. 109er - Andy - Trad sherlock
2. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8 cowboy
3. Aeroman _ Brian - AeroMax oldgit
4. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8 cop
5. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8
6. Graham (G4FUJ) - Graham - Trad hippy
7. 1560 - Steven - AeroMax
8. Hopwood - Geoff - Aero 8 tumbleweed
9. GF - Simon - AeroMax (I'm sure we can twist his arm) flyingpig
10. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8 (very rare Series II) thinking
11. Robbie - Robbie - Trad
12. Woolfie - Woolfie - Aero 8
13. CerealSurfer - Andrew and Anne - Aero 8
14. Andy - Andy - Trad
15. DaveW - Dave - Trad (playing hard to get!)
Posted By: woolfie

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 14/06/09 11:01 PM

i shall let you all know how many midges get into the aero when I am there this summer. Staying at Kinloch Lodge in Skye, then the Mhor in the Trossachs and then Overwater Hall northern lake district.

Fixing the roof so its doesn't balloon up with the wind; my local dealer now have a way of doing it - with studs; maybe I shall also ask them to fashion a midge catcher.

Had a lovely drive out today to Hartford hall - Aylesbury (anyway thats what I think it was called), but key point to remember is book for afternoon tea many weeks in advance, pah.
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 26/06/09 11:26 AM

Potential Lappers
1. 109er - Andy - Trad sherlock
2. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8 cowboy
3. Aeroman _ Brian - AeroMax oldgit
4. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8 cop
5. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8
6. Graham (G4FUJ) - Graham - Trad hippy
7. 1560 - Steven - Trad arr
8. Hopwood - Geoff - Aero 8 tumbleweed
9. GF - Simon - AeroMax (I'm sure we can twist his arm) flyingpig
10. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8 (very rare Series II) thinking
11. Robbie - Robbie - Trad
12. Woolfie - Woolfie - Aero 8
13. CerealSurfer - Andrew and Anne - Aero 8
14. Andy - Andy - Trad
15. DaveW - Dave - Trad (playing hard to get!)
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 26/06/09 11:28 AM

this might help
in dutch, but roadnumbers/city wink names/distances (usefull numeric data somestick )/time
should be clear

http://www.autovisie.nl/downloads/schotland.pdf

NOW: time to enjoy a bit of that sunny afternoon instead of computing
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 26/06/09 09:09 PM

Planning in progress with my contact - update soon...
Posted By: another

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 29/06/09 01:41 PM

Chaps just seen this May 2010, please put me down too or reserve list. Been wanting to go to scotland too..
Posted By: Aeroman

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 29/06/09 07:52 PM

Potential Lappers
1. 109er - Andy - Trad sherlock
2. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8 cowboy
3. Aeroman _ Brian - AeroMax oldgit
4. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8 cop
5. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8
6. Graham (G4FUJ) - Graham - Trad hippy
7. 1560 - Steven - Trad arr
8. Hopwood - Geoff - Aero 8 tumbleweed
9. GF - Simon - AeroMax (I'm sure we can twist his arm) flyingpig
10. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8 (very rare Series II) thinking
11. Robbie - Robbie - Trad
12. Woolfie - Woolfie - Aero 8
13. CerealSurfer - Andrew and Anne - Aero 8
14. Andy - Andy - Trad
15. DaveW - Dave - Trad (playing hard to get!)
16. Another - Aero 8 shades
Posted By: orthodoc

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 30/06/09 02:53 AM

Bit late on this thread - can I express interest? oldgit
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 03/07/09 11:54 AM

Ok - quick update.
Spoken in depth to the tour organising friend of mine, and he is sending through an example itinerary which I will share over the weekend.

Key outline will be :

1. April 2010
2. Cost will be approx 400 per person, based on 2 in a car. There will be a lower cost for 1 in a car TBD.
3. Will cover 4 nights accomodation running over a weekend.
4. There will be a tour 'leader' running the show provided by the company (probably the boss Nick - top chap) to co-ordinate hotels, routes and be a general point of contact for the group / help anyone with issues etc.
5. As it's the UK - no need to have a mechanic along - we I'm sure all have AA cover, and unlike more highly strung marques, Mogs tend not to need to worry about that sort of thing so much.

Additional options :

1. Transport of cars to scotland (it's along drive and the time poor might prefer to have the cars sent ahead so they can arrive via other means)
2. All hotel rooms can be upgraded from std double to suites etc for those who want additional luxury, but at the same time keeping the standard cost down for the rest of us!
3. Itinerary is flexible - so we can work with him to determine specific routes, or specific visits (e.g. distilleries etc)

Basically, there is a trip he is already running in March / April. If there are only 5 of us or so who can confirm and go, then I'd suggest we join the exisiting trip. If we can get 10+ cars (and probably max 15ish) then we should have our own exclusive TM trip.

More details to follow when I get an official brochure..





Originally Posted By Aeroman
Potential Lappers
1. 109er - Andy - Trad sherlock
2. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8 cowboy
3. Aeroman _ Brian - AeroMax oldgit
4. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8 cop
5. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8
6. Graham (G4FUJ) - Graham - Trad hippy
7. 1560 - Steven - Trad arr
8. Hopwood - Geoff - Aero 8 tumbleweed
9. GF - Simon - AeroMax (I'm sure we can twist his arm) flyingpig
10. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8 (very rare Series II) thinking
11. Robbie - Robbie - Trad
12. Woolfie - Woolfie - Aero 8
13. CerealSurfer - Andrew and Anne - Aero 8
14. Andy - Andy - Trad
15. DaveW - Dave - Trad (playing hard to get!)
16. Another - Aero 8 shades
17. Orthodoc


Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 03/07/09 03:03 PM

Brochure here
Posted By: Aeroman

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 03/07/09 09:13 PM

Potential Lappers
1. 109er - Andy - Trad sherlock
2. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8 cowboy
3. Aeroman _ Brian - AeroMax oldgit
4. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8 cop
5. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8
6. Graham (G4FUJ) - Graham - Trad hippy
7. 1560 - Steven - Trad arr
8. Hopwood - Geoff - Aero 8 tumbleweed
9. GF - Simon - AeroMax (I'm sure we can twist his arm) flyingpig
10. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8 (very rare Series II) thinking
11. Robbie - Robbie - Trad
12. Woolfie - Woolfie - Aero 8
13. CerealSurfer - Andrew and Anne - Aero 8
14. Andy - Andy - Trad
15. DaveW - Dave - Trad (playing hard to get!)
16. Another - Aero 8 shades
17. Orthodoc - Bill - Aero 8
Posted By: EL77

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 04/07/09 02:53 PM

i'd be keen if there is room. hopefully in a supersports by then!!
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 04/07/09 03:55 PM

Most welcome smile
Check out the brochure in the post above and let me know what you think about the itinerary - that goes for everyone. Should be a good trip, and having driven a chunk of the highlands in my series 1 a few years back they are fantastic roads!

Potential Lappers
1. 109er - Andy - Trad
2. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8
3. Aeroman _ Brian - AeroMax
4. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8
5. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8
6. Graham (G4FUJ) - Graham -
7. 1560 - Steven - Trad
8. Hopwood - Geoff - Aero 8
9. GF - Simon - AeroMax (I'm sure we can twist his arm)
10. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8 (very rare Series II)
11. Robbie - Robbie - Trad
12. Woolfie - Woolfie - Aero 8
13. CerealSurfer - Andrew and Anne - Aero 8
14. Andy - Andy - Trad
15. DaveW - Dave - Trad (playing hard to get!)
16. Another - Aero 8 shades
17. Orthodoc - Bill - Aero 8
18. EL77 - ?????? - Aeromax / SuperSport
Posted By: Aeroman

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 04/07/09 07:47 PM

Well done Rich, I think that the tour looks fine to me. I think that we probably need to split the list into definite and potential lappers, so I suggest we continue to treat the current list as the potential lappers and anyone who's definite should add their name to the A) list and delete it from the B) list. OK? thumbs

A) Definite Lappers
1. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8 (I guess as you're organising it, you're a definite?)
2. Aeroman - Brian - AeroMax/Aero SS

B) Potential Lappers
1. 109er - Andy - Trad
2. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8
3. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8
4. Graham (G4FUJ) - Graham -
5. 1560 - Steven - Trad
6. Hopwood - Geoff - Aero 8
7. GF - Simon - AeroMax (I'm sure we can twist his arm)
8. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8 (very rare Series II)
9. Robbie - Robbie - Trad
10. Woolfie - Woolfie - Aero 8
11. CerealSurfer - Andrew and Anne - Aero 8
12. Andy - Andy - Trad
13. DaveW - Dave - Trad (playing hard to get!)
14. Another - Aero 8 shades
15. Orthodoc - Bill - Aero 8
16. EL77 - Edward - Aeromax/Aero SS

Let's get your commitments early so that Rich can get a TM only tour organised, i.e. mainly Morgan's, if not all. grin2

Brian
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 04/07/09 08:38 PM

I am a definite - I'll sort dates with Nick in a week or so - he is off round europe on a tour next week.
Posted By: Andy

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 05/07/09 07:50 AM

The route looks like it will be great. I would put in one point of caution. It might be a good idea to make the date late in April, with those roads there is a good chance at that time of the year that snow/ice will still be around. I have in the past experienced some of the best skiing of the season at Glenshee over the May holiday weekend
Posted By: uvk33n

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 06/07/09 07:44 AM

Originally Posted By mr_tony
Brochure here

An impressive brochure but clearly written by someone who has never ventured further north than Watford. A rendezvous near to Carlisle would put you well-beyond the Lake District.
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 06/07/09 02:04 PM

Hi Ken,

I guess it just comes down to the definition of near(!). Us southerners (well at least the ones born in the westcountry) think anything within 50 miles is near - which is about the length of the whole lake district!).

Let me just say that the trip to Scotland is one Nick and his company have run for at least 4 (if not more) years, several times a year, so they know the best roads, and have recced them with locals.

Also let me just make it clear that I have no connection with the company other than as a previously satisfied customer, and nobody is paying me to endorse them - I just know they will do a good job, and previous reports of friends who have been on the scotland trip are very favourable.

So come on and lets get some committments in so we can have a TM trip as Aeroman said! Will make for some stunning scenes to have 15 mogs cruising through the highlands!
Posted By: uvk33n

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 06/07/09 03:06 PM

Hi Rich! No criticism of the tour intended - just an off-the-cuff remark on the north/south divide.
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 06/07/09 03:11 PM

blush cheers
Posted By: dmat

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 06/07/09 04:56 PM

I know I'm late..... but put my name down too please.

dmat
Posted By: Aeroman

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 06/07/09 08:08 PM

A) Definite Lappers
1. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8
2. Aeroman - Brian - AeroMax/Aero SS

B) Potential Lappers
1. 109er - Andy - Trad
2. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8
3. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8
4. Graham (G4FUJ) - Graham - Trad
5. 1560 - Steven - AeroMax
6. Hopwood - Geoff - Aero 8
7. GF - Simon - AeroMax
8. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8
9. Robbie - Robbie - Trad
10. Woolfie - Woolfie - Aero 8
11. CerealSurfer - Andrew and Anne - Aero 8
12. Andy - Andy - Trad
13. DaveW - Dave - Trad (playing hard to get!)
14. Another - Aero 8
15. Orthodoc - Bill - Aero 8
16. EL77 - Edward - Aeromax/Aero SS
17. dmat - David - AeroMax

Come on guys, move your name up to the definites as we want a large turnout of Mog's on this tour. So far we potentially have five AeroMax's, which is an excellent turnout, nine Aero 8's and five Trads. Where are the rest of the Trads, don't be shy guys, it's open to ALL models. thumbs
Posted By: DaveW

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 06/07/09 08:14 PM

Dates are really critical for me. Three family birthdays in March/April with traditions that must be kept, so back end of April is the only possibility for us, and SWMBO is far from convinced it's a good idea. Especially if it rains for four days (or worse)....... innocent
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 07/07/09 06:01 AM

A) Definite Lappers
1. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8
2. Aeroman - Brian - AeroMax/Aero SS
3. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8
4. Simon - Aeromax
5. Graham (G4FUJ) - Graham - Trad (likely +4) & probably solo
6. Hopwood - Geoffrey 'n Diane - Aero 8


B) Potential Lappers
1. 109er - Andy - Trad
2. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8
3. 1560 - Steven - Trad
4. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8
5. Robbie - Robbie - Trad
6. Woolfie - Woolfie - Aero 8
7. CerealSurfer - Andrew and Anne - Aero 8
8. Andy - Andy - Trad
9. DaveW - Dave - Trad
10. Another - Aero 8
11. Orthodoc - Bill - Aero 8
12. EL77 - Edward - Aeromax/Aero
Posted By: uvk33n

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 07/07/09 06:54 AM

Originally Posted By Aeroman
Where are the rest of the Trads, don't be shy guys, it's open to ALL models. thumbs

Too pricey for me! As the rendezvous is on my doorstep I'll come and wave you off. If anyone wants to add an extra day for a tour of the best roads in the Lakes and North Pennines, I'd be happy to show you around.
Posted By: Graham, G4FUJ

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 07/07/09 01:07 PM

Originally Posted By Boshly
A) Definite Lappers
1. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8
2. Aeroman - Brian - AeroMax/Aero SS
3. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8
4. Simon - Aeromax
5. Graham (G4FUJ) - Graham - Trad (likely +4) & probably solo
6. Hopwood - Geoffrey 'n Diane - Aero 8


B) Potential Lappers
1. 109er - Andy - Trad
2. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8
3. 1560 - Steven - Trad
4. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8
5. Robbie - Robbie - Trad
6. Woolfie - Woolfie - Aero 8
7. CerealSurfer - Andrew and Anne - Aero 8
8. Andy - Andy - Trad
9. DaveW - Dave - Trad
10. Another - Aero 8
11. Orthodoc - Bill - Aero 8
12. EL77 - Edward - Aeromax/Aero SS


Would take an extra day to drive up to start (and possibly take up the offer on Lakes tour afterwards! wink though we do know the area reasonably well...) just to be 'fresh' for the first day yawn

Cheers,
Posted By: Aeroman

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 07/07/09 07:45 PM

Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
Would take an extra day to drive up to start (and possibly take up the offer on Lakes tour afterwards! wink.


Although it is a few years since we have stopped there, The Sharrow Bay was always a fabulous experience in the days of Francis Coulson (who invented the Country House Hotel genre) and Brian Sack. With their demise, it is now owned by the group who run Cliveden; amongst other interesting hotels - van Essen Hotels - and whilst it has lost some of its previous eccentricity and soul, it is nevertheless still a very good hotel and the deserts are still legion. thumbs (Sticky toffee pudding was invented here!). grin2

One night here shouldn't break the bank for those who want an excellent over-night stay in the lakes, prior to the lap. smile flag
Posted By: Hopwood

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 08/07/09 09:55 AM

Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
A) Definite Lappers
1. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8
2. Aeroman - Brian - AeroMax/Aero SS
3. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8
4. Simon - Aeromax
5. Graham (G4FUJ) - Graham - Trad (likely +4) & probably solo
6. Hopwood - Geoffrey 'n Diane - Aero 8


B) Potential Lappers
1. 109er - Andy - Trad
2. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8
3. 1560 - Steven - Trad
4. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8
5. Robbie - Robbie - Trad
6. Woolfie - Woolfie - Aero 8
7. CerealSurfer - Andrew and Anne - Aero 8
8. Andy - Andy - Trad
9. DaveW - Dave - Trad
10. Another - Aero 8
11. Orthodoc - Bill - Aero 8
12. EL77 - Edward - Aeromax/Aero SS


Any time in April would be OK for us, clearly no garuantees on weather at that time of year (can't be worse than Lucerne in March?) snow so we are looking forward to the trip and might even extend the tour ourselves into the Lakes. sunny
Thanks to you Rich for setting this up, no doubt we will discuss the how/when/who getting to Carlisle nearer the date
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 08/07/09 10:11 AM


I'll talk to the girlfriend, but we would be going to Tuscany in that period sos
and she HATES Scotland confused2 confused2 confused2

BUT I got a plan:
if she starts moaning, I'll answer; viking
"damn, thought about asking you to mary me, if we could cope with 5 days in the Mog, in the rain, then I would be sure about us"
Posted By: DaveW

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 08/07/09 10:23 AM

Take some advice from an old timer 1560 - a bit more subtlety is called for................
It's a 'special' trip. Mention that you'd like to see Gretna Green (assuming she understands the significance)......
I used my 30th Anniversary weekend to cement my 'Mog deal approval' by calling both at Prescott, AND the factory on the same day. It was so expertly executed that she didn't realise what had happened.
innocent
Posted By: Aeroman

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 08/07/09 11:05 AM

Originally Posted By 1560
BUT I got a plan:
if she starts moaning, I'll answer; viking
"damn, thought about asking you to mary me, if we could cope with 5 days in the Mog, in the rain, then I would be sure about us"


Blimey, that's a bit drastic Steven! hide I'm not sure that a few days in Scotland, even in a Mog, is worth getting married for...
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 10/07/09 09:50 AM

Rich,

April would be better any idea on when you will be able to confirm dates as early March will be an issue for us, but any other time count us in thumbs
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 10/07/09 03:37 PM

I can go happy3
but I'll have to find me a Co-driver thinking
a lovely ethiopian???
cloud9


A) Definite Lappers
1. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8
2. Aeroman - Brian - Aero SS: mat-green, tan leather, black wheels, racing-striping, superloud exhaust, bored-out engine 5.1l 420bhp
3. Boshly - Sandy - Aero 8
4. Simon - Aeromax
5. Graham (G4FUJ) - Graham - Trad (likely +4) & probably solo
6. Hopwood - Geoffrey 'n Diane - Aero 8
7. 1560 - Steven - Trad Supercharged


B) Potential Lappers
1. 109er - Andy - Trad
2. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8
3. EL77 - Edward - Aeromax/Aero
4. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8
5. Robbie - Robbie - Trad
6. Woolfie - Woolfie - Aero 8
7. CerealSurfer - Andrew and Anne - Aero 8
8. Andy - Andy - Trad
9. DaveW - Dave - Trad
10. Another - Aero 8
11. Orthodoc - Bill - Aero 8


excuse me for the jokes, a bit boared at the office
Posted By: cerealsurfer

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 10/07/09 09:26 PM

Missprint and I will be coming along.... count us in...
Posted By: Aeroman

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 11/07/09 10:19 AM

Originally Posted By 1560
I can go happy3
but I'll have to find me a Co-driver thinking
a lovely ethiopian???
cloud9


A) Definite Lappers
1. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8
2. Aeroman - Brian - Aero SS: mat-green, tan leather, black wheels, racing-striping, superloud exhaust, bored-out engine 5.1l 420bhp or see this Giallo Granturismo
3. Boshly - Sandy - Aero 8
4. Simon - Aeromax
5. Graham (G4FUJ) - Graham - Trad (likely +4) & probably solo
6. Hopwood - Geoffrey 'n Diane - Aero 8
7. 1560 - Steven - Trad Supercharged


B) Potential Lappers
1. 109er - Andy - Trad
2. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8
3. EL77 - Edward - Aeromax/Aero
4. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8
5. Robbie - Robbie - Trad
6. Woolfie - Woolfie - Aero 8
7. CerealSurfer - Andrew and Anne - Aero 8
8. Andy - Andy - Trad
9. DaveW - Dave - Trad
10. Another - Aero 8
11. Orthodoc - Bill - Aero 8


excuse me for the jokes, a bit boared at the office


So the marriage is now off 1560! party laugh2
Posted By: cerealsurfer

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 11/07/09 10:38 AM

I realise this is a bit non-mog but I have a friend who has an R8 would is interested in joining us. I've not offered yet depending on local take up.. what's the consensus?
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 11/07/09 10:50 AM

Originally Posted By cerealsurfer
I realise this is a bit non-mog but I have a friend who has an R8 would is interested in joining us. I've not offered yet depending on local take up.. what's the consensus?

hmm, we might want a 4x4 (snow) with a big trunk (luggage) and a towrope (pulling back on the road out of a snow-pile after an off), but that doesn't sound R8, more Def

Originally Posted By Aeroman


So the marriage is now off 1560! party laugh2


yes, she's great love , we postpone Tuscany no probs,
sorry if you hoped on a big party

but she defenitely won't join me/us (and I wan't a (female)Co-driver )
Posted By: cerealsurfer

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 11/07/09 11:50 AM

Originally Posted By 1560
Originally Posted By cerealsurfer
I realise this is a bit non-mog but I have a friend who has an R8 would is interested in joining us. I've not offered yet depending on local take up.. what's the consensus?

hmm, we might want a 4x4 (snow) with a big trunk (luggage) and a towrope (pulling back on the road out of a snow-pile after an off), but that doesn't sound R8, more Def


Interestingly he also has an S8 V10 and a new RS6 GMBH custom V10 Twin Turbo in Bright Yellow which would suit the towing requirements. smile
Posted By: Aeroman

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 11/07/09 12:27 PM

Originally Posted By 1560
but she defenitely won't join me/us (and I want a (female) Co-driver )


Boshly has a (female) friend who's a bit of a motoring (and watch) buff, maybe he can fix you up with her! wink flag
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 11/07/09 01:45 PM

Originally Posted By Aeroman
Originally Posted By 1560
but she defenitely won't join me/us (and I want a (female) Co-driver )


Boshly has a (female) friend who's a bit of a motoring (and watch) buff, maybe he can fix you up with her! wink flag


NO CHANCE
I rather take my girlfriends mum to escort me
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 11/07/09 01:46 PM

Originally Posted By cerealsurfer

Interestingly he also has an S8 V10 and a new RS6 GMBH custom V10 Twin Turbo in Bright Yellow which would suit the towing requirements. smile


RS6 will do surrender

btw: is he German????? laugh2
Posted By: cerealsurfer

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 11/07/09 02:08 PM

Originally Posted By 1560

btw: is he German????? laugh2


Nope... just a very nice man smile... in fact my best man as it happens
Posted By: cerealsurfer

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 11/07/09 02:11 PM

Originally Posted By 1560
Originally Posted By Aeroman
Originally Posted By 1560
but she defenitely won't join me/us (and I want a (female) Co-driver )


Boshly has a (female) friend who's a bit of a motoring (and watch) buff, maybe he can fix you up with her! wink flag


NO CHANCE
I rather take my girlfriends mum to escort me


Hey.. when you read that again it could be your offering Boshly's friend for a bit of a nude driving experience.

Anyone remember one of original Gumball competitors who had the 355 and would speed into the distance only to pull over and take buff pics of his rather attractive wife as the rest of the rally went past!!!!

Not sure Scotland is ready for that though wink
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 11/07/09 02:48 PM

back ON topic: when will we be going??? april/may??????
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 11/07/09 06:49 PM

Originally Posted By Aeroman
Originally Posted By 1560
but she defenitely won't join me/us (and I want a (female) Co-driver )


Boshly has a (female) friend who's a bit of a motoring (and watch) buff, maybe he can fix you up with her! wink flag


Hands off you guys, I saw her first wink
Posted By: Andy

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 11/07/09 07:43 PM

Ok. I have confirmation from the management that we can join the trip. So put Andy +1 in 2009 +4 on the list. We will try to keep up with the pace.

Andy
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 12/07/09 05:04 AM

Originally Posted By Boshly


Hands off you guys, I saw her first wink

does her pasport say female or still...

Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 12/07/09 05:08 AM

A) Definite Lappers
1. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8
2. Aeroman - Brian - Aeromax or that targa in yellow
3. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8
4. Simon - Aeromax
5. Graham (G4FUJ) - Graham - Trad (likely +4) & probably solo
6. Hopwood - Geoffrey 'n Diane - Aero 8
7. 1560 - Steven - Trad
8. Cerealsurfer - Andrew and Anne - Aero 8
9. Andy - ? - +4 (Boshly/Simon/... : that's a trad!!!!!)

B) Potential Lappers
1. 109er - Andy - Trad
2. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8
3. EL77 - Edward - Aeromax/Aero
4. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8
5. Robbie - Robbie - Trad
6. Woolfie - Woolfie - Aero 8
7. lucky number is free!!!!
8. Andy - Andy - Trad
9. DaveW - Dave - Trad
10. Another - Aero 8
11. Orthodoc - Bill - Aero 8
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 12/07/09 07:49 AM

Ok - with 9 lined up as serious LOSers (hmmm that TLA maybe needs some tweaking...) we are well set for our own trip.

Timing discussions I had so far mean that April is the likely month, so I'll speak to Nick this week, outline that we have 9 cars definitely interested, and 11 more who have expressed an interest.

On this basis I'll ask NIck to confirm dates, and a basic itinerary and cost. Nick will then set up the trip on the dettaglio website, and I'll post the details out to the definited on here so you can sign up officially.

Posted By: cerealsurfer

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 12/07/09 11:53 AM

My mate (AudiMan) +1 in an Audi R8 V8 (or V10 depending on collection date)

April is better than May for us too BTW.
Posted By: dmat

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 12/07/09 11:07 PM

Originally Posted By dmat
I know I'm late..... but put my name down too please.

dmat


My names been on the list :), then for some reason its not anymore. frown

was it something I said redcard

Any chance of on again please cheers

dmat
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/07/09 05:37 AM

A) Definite Lappers
1. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8
2. Aeroman - Brian - Aeromax or that targa in yellow
3. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8
4. Simon - Aeromax
5. Graham (G4FUJ) - Graham - Trad (likely +4) & probably solo
6. Hopwood - Geoffrey 'n Diane - Aero 8
7. 1560 - Steven - Trad
8. Cerealsurfer - Andrew and Anne - Aero 8
9. Andy - ? - +4 (Boshly/Simon/... : that's a trad!!!!!)

B) Potential Lappers
1. 109er - Andy - Trad
2. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8
3. EL77 - Edward - Aeromax/Aero
4. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8
5. Robbie - Robbie - Trad
6. Woolfie - Woolfie - Aero 8
7. lucky number is free!!!!
8. Andy - Andy - Trad
9. DaveW - Dave - Trad
10. Another - Aero 8
11. Orthodoc - Bill - Aero 8
12. dmat - David - AeroMax (for this trip specially wrapped in Scuderia-Red) cheers

note:
Europeans: boat or "cars on a lorry+we in a plane"????
Posted By: cerealsurfer

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/07/09 06:07 PM

A) Definite Lappers
1. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8
2. Aeroman - Brian - Aeromax or that targa in yellow
3. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8
4. Simon - Aeromax
5. Graham (G4FUJ) - Graham - Trad (likely +4) & probably solo
6. Hopwood - Geoffrey 'n Diane - Aero 8
7. 1560 - Steven - Trad
8. Cerealsurfer - Andrew and Anne - Aero 8
9. Andy - ? - +4 (Boshly/Simon/... : that's a trad!!!!!)
10. AudiMan - Audi R8

B) Potential Lappers
1. 109er - Andy - Trad
2. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8
3. EL77 - Edward - Aeromax/Aero
4. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8
5. Robbie - Robbie - Trad
6. Woolfie - Woolfie - Aero 8
7. lucky number is free!!!!
8. Andy - Andy - Trad
9. DaveW - Dave - Trad
10. Another - Aero 8
11. Orthodoc - Bill - Aero 8
12. dmat - David - AeroMax (for this trip specially wrapped in Scuderia-Red) cheers

note:
Europeans: boat or "cars on a lorry+we in a plane"????
Posted By: Andy

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/07/09 07:02 PM

For you Europeans I can recommend the Amsterdam Newcastle ferry. Coming from Aberdeen its our preferred route into Europe. A pleasant overnighter will get you nicely to Carlisle after an easy run along Hadrians wall from Newcastle.

Andy (No 9 on the definite list and N08 8 on the possibles)
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/07/09 07:20 PM

I beg you, the R8 is bright-colourish


if I can bring a Ferrari-friend, he'll bring on some
nice co-pilots???
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 14/07/09 06:20 AM

Suggest the next move is to get a firm date arranged. Then we see how may of the spaces we fill from the tm list before we add extras.

Having said that with up to 15 spaces being the ideal group size it would seem likely that there will be some spare room, but let's wait and see...

Dates to come shortly.
Rich
Posted By: cerealsurfer

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 14/07/09 05:34 PM

Originally Posted By 1560
I beg you, the R8 is bright-colourish


if I can bring a Ferrari-friend, he'll bring on some
nice co-pilots???

Bright solid Red with the full carbon pack
Posted By: Aeroman

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 14/07/09 08:10 PM

Originally Posted By mr_tony
Suggest the next move is to get a firm date arranged. Then we see how may of the spaces we fill from the tm list before we add extras.


Luckily Easter is early next year, so any time after it in April works for me and I would guess most people. coffee
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 15/07/09 06:54 AM

Originally Posted By cerealsurfer

Bright solid Red with the full carbon pack


red indeed
almost, no carbon side-sills
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 15/07/09 07:59 AM

Originally Posted By 1560

9. Andy - ? - +4 (Boshly/Simon/... : that's a trad!!!!!)



laugh2
Posted By: olleyjp

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 19/07/09 09:50 PM

A) Definite Lappers
1. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8
2. Aeroman - Brian - Aeromax or that targa in yellow
3. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8
4. Simon - Aeromax
5. Graham (G4FUJ) - Graham - Trad (likely +4) & probably solo
6. Hopwood - Geoffrey 'n Diane - Aero 8
7. 1560 - Steven - Trad
8. Cerealsurfer - Andrew and Anne - Aero 8
9. Andy - ? - +4 (Boshly/Simon/... : that's a trad!!!!!)

B) Potential Lappers
1. 109er - Andy - Trad
2. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8
3. EL77 - Edward - Aeromax/Aero
4. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8
5. Robbie - Robbie - Trad
6. Woolfie - Woolfie - Aero 8
7. lucky number is free!!!!
8. Andy - Andy - Trad
9. DaveW - Dave - Trad
10. Another - Aero 8
11. Orthodoc - Bill - Aero 8
12. dmat - David - AeroMax (for this trip specially wrapped in Scuderia-Red)


if still a space, i'd like to be on the definate list? Being an up north scotlander, i know a good few nice roads heading up north and west smile
Posted By: Robbie

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 23/07/09 10:49 AM

Folks,
I would like to move my name up to the definites but cannot until a firm date is arranged. Any progress on this??

See some of you in Cheltenham and environs next week!

Cheers!
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 24/07/09 06:09 AM

Gentlemen,
this topic is quite active, as I see. Have been on vacation for a few days and ooops, 9 pages!
My prime minister and myself have to wait for a firm date before we can confirm. I would prefer a date around the end of April, if possible.
Hope to see you all,
Andy
Posted By: woolfie

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 30/07/09 11:27 PM

Well I am driving up to west coast of scotland via Lakes in the morning; 2nd big trip out in the aero. This one is a 10 day jaunt..so depending upon the state of me on my return i'll know whether I want to repeat it next year. Its amazing what you can pack into these cars..and i bought a £2.99 navigation aid which fits neatly into the hands of the person sitting next to me. Also bought a cover for when its p!ssing down overnight.
Posted By: uvk33n

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 31/07/09 06:49 AM

Originally Posted By woolfie
i bought a £2.99 navigation aid which fits neatly into the hands of the person sitting next to me. Also bought a cover for when its p!ssing down overnight.

The problem with the budget navigation aids is there is no off switch. laugh2

Originally Posted By woolfie
Also bought a cover for when its p!ssing down overnight.

If you're staying in the Lakes it'll get plenty of use. scared
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 31/07/09 04:50 PM

Hi Chaps smile Apologies for lack of updates - been out for 2 weeks in Italy and Switzerland in the tangomobile. Just back today - expect to get firm dates early next week.
Rich
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 01/08/09 08:24 AM

Originally Posted By mr_tony
Hi Chaps smile Apologies for lack of updates - been out for 2 weeks in Italy and Switzerland in the tangomobile. Just back today - expect to get firm dates early next week.
Rich


=> pictures????, route????, maybe a small report, think many would like to know your highlights and visit them also in the future!!!
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 02/08/09 07:23 AM

No time to post from pc yet - not even downloaded my holiday pics yet ! At cheltenham immediately upon arrival from switzerland so showing dedication to the morgan cause. New thread on jaunts later..
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 05/08/09 12:41 PM

Hi Everyone - I have confirmed Dates and an itinerary!
Please review the dates and if you are on the confirmed list please confirm again that you can make the dates. Once those on the confirmed list have confirmed, then we can allow others on the possible list (and potentially keen Audi R10 drivers etc) to make up any still available places.

I would like to confirm initial numbers (Cars and passengers) to the organiser this week before I leave for Singapore next week so please either post here or drop me a mail on this site.

Also, if you are on the list but cannot now make the trip due to the dates please let me know asap or post here.


---------------------------------------------------------------

ITINERARY

21 April – meet at Rendezvouz and then drive to Inveraray: stay in Loch Fyne
22 April/23 April – stay at the Old Inn in Gairloch
24 April – stay in Pitlochry
25 April – guests make their way home

USEFUL INFO

•The trip lasts 4 days.
•4 nights accommodation are included.
•Estimated mileage (RV to final hotel) is 940.
•Accommodation will be in a selection of good quality
hotels.
•The Trip can accommodate a maximum of 30 people in 15
rooms.
•This trip is accompanied by a guide in a support vehicle.
•No mechanics accompany this trip (we shouldn't need them fingers crossed touch wood...)

Package
The package includes:
•Bed & Breakfast accommodation for 4 nights in a range
of good quality hotels.
•Welcome drinks upon arrival at each hotel in Scotland.
•Parking charges overnight for the cars.
•Professional guide in one support vehicle.
•Printed route book including a full itinerary, driving
directions and places to visit.


What’s Excluded
The price excludes anything not expressly included in the Package as well as the
following:
•Fuel & Motorway tolls
•Minibar and evening meals
•Alcohol (save for any welcome drinks)
•Medical & Travel Insurance
•Vehicle Insurance
•Vehicle Breakdown Cover
•Health and beauty treatments at each hotel (where applicable)

Guide Price & Conditions (Prices to be confirmed shortly)

£790 for two people in a double/twin room
£590 for 1 person in a single room

All prices include VAT and local taxes
Posted By: Graham, G4FUJ

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 05/08/09 01:17 PM

Looks OK to me - still probably running solo - too much driving for SWMBO...
Pencilled into diary.
Cheers,
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 05/08/09 04:56 PM

fine for me,
won't be taking the boat,
have crossed larger distances than Pitlochry - Knokke (Be) before
and prefer driving up instead of hustling with boat etc.
Posted By: Aeroman

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 05/08/09 05:44 PM

Originally Posted By mr_tony
Hi Everyone - I have confirmed Dates and an itinerary!
Please review the dates and if you are on the confirmed list please confirm again that you can make the dates. Once those on the confirmed list have confirmed, then we can allow others on the possible list (and potentially keen Audi R10 drivers etc) to make up any still available places.

I would like to confirm initial numbers (Cars and passengers) to the organiser this week before I leave for Singapore next week so please either post here or drop me a mail on this site.

Also, if you are on the list but cannot now make the trip due to the dates please let me know asap or post here.


---------------------------------------------------------------

ITINERARY

21 April – meet at Rendezvouz and then drive to Inveraray: stay in Loch Fyne
22 April/23 April – stay at the Old Inn in Gairloch
24 April – stay in Pitlochry
25 April – guests make their way home

USEFUL INFO

•The trip lasts 4 days.
•4 nights accommodation are included.
•Estimated mileage (RV to final hotel) is 940.
•Accommodation will be in a selection of good quality
hotels.
•The Trip can accommodate a maximum of 30 people in 15
rooms.
•This trip is accompanied by a guide in a support vehicle.
•No mechanics accompany this trip (we shouldn't need them fingers crossed touch wood...)

Package
The package includes:
•Bed & Breakfast accommodation for 4 nights in a range
of good quality hotels.
•Welcome drinks upon arrival at each hotel in Scotland.
•Parking charges overnight for the cars.
•Professional guide in one support vehicle.
•Printed route book including a full itinerary, driving
directions and places to visit.


Hi Rich,

Well done, the dates are fine for us and we remain on the definite list. thumbs

However, one of the first things that we do when suggested hotels is to look at their websites: Loch Fyne - no issues here, stunning views. We then look at Trip Advisor and the reports for this hotel are a bit of a curates egg; to say the least! The recent reports from 'Forloppin' and 'WavyBabe', amongst others do not make good reading. I think that our tour agents should, at least, provide some reassurances. confused2

The website of The Old Inn, Gairloch looks fine, even if their food awards are a bit historical. Trip Advisor seems fine with many people staying on return trips. They've even catered for young Simon "we did feel as if we were staying with someone’s deeply unfashionable grandparents". laugh2 To sum up, good food (that's important!), old-fashioned rooms.

No accommodation details are given for Pitlochry, but this is the website for hotels in Pitlochry and this is Trip Advisor on hotels there. Can you please find out which one we are destined to stop at?

If any of our Scottish members have any advice/recommendations on this trip and the accommodation proposed, then that also could prove helpful. wine

Posted By: cerealsurfer

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 05/08/09 06:50 PM

We can confirm Missprint and I will be coming along!!!
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 05/08/09 07:09 PM

Yup We're in, thumbs

Have an old Uni friend who lives in Pitlochry who runs a B&B also, so will be nice to catch up smile
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 05/08/09 07:47 PM

Rich,

Count me and Alison in. wine

John
Posted By: Hopwood

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 05/08/09 08:35 PM

Richard,
Definite for Diane and me. Dates are in the diary and pennies being saved. wine
Looking forward to the trip thumbs
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 05/08/09 09:26 PM

Thanks for the quick response all.
Good work Aeroman on the follow up - hotels are a guide only at this point, and I'll confirm / get reassurances as you suggest.

At this point we have 7 definites (cars that is) with a fine range of Mogs represented! 8 more places (max) to fill so thos ewho haven't responded I would ask to do so one way or the other ASAP so we can clarify and fill the spaces.


Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 06/08/09 05:04 AM

Dear Richard,
put Kerstin and me on the definite list. Thanks for the planning and preparation!
Andy
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 06/08/09 05:40 AM

Rich,

You might need to check you numbers I make it your up to 11! hide
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 06/08/09 10:15 AM

A) Definite Lappers for 21-25th April

1. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
2. Aeroman - Brian - SuperSports - 2 People - CONFIRMED
3. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
4. Simon - Simon - Aeromax
5. G4FUJ - Graham - 4/4 - 1 person - CONFIRMED
6. Hopwood - Geoffrey - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
7. 1560 - Steven - Trad - 1 person? - CONFIRMED
8. Cerealsurfer - Andrew - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
9. Andy - ? - +4
10. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED

B) Potential Lappers
1. 109er - Andy - Trad
2. EL77 - Edward - Aeromax/Aero
3. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8
4. Robbie - Robbie - Trad
5. Woolfie - Woolfie - Aero 8
6. DaveW - Dave - Trad
7. Another - Aero 8
8. Orthodoc - Bill - Aero 8
9. dmat - David - AeroMax (for this trip specially wrapped in Scuderia-Red)

SIMON / ANDY - can you confirm?
Also - anyone on the possible list who wants in? 15 car spaces in all so room for more to join?
Posted By: DaveW

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 06/08/09 10:21 AM

Sorry, I'm out. MrsW not keen (due to distances involved), and too close to Birthday holiday. Not able to persuade this time.
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 06/08/09 10:26 AM

I'll come alone,
fiancé doesn't like Scotland (or mountains or open sea or...)
and she's got to work from time to time (schoolteacher)
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 06/08/09 11:02 AM

Shame Dave - but completely understand smile
1560 - thanks for update. How can you not like mountains? :wibble:
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 06/08/09 12:27 PM

Move me up to the definites, please.

Co-pilot and navigator is my wife Kerstin, the car is a 2009 Plus 4.

We plan to come by ferry to Newcastle April 21st in the morning and go to the meeting point directly from the port. So the arrival time there depends on the ferry schedule. I´ll find that out.

Andy, 109er (Ex-Land Rover owner)
Posted By: another

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 06/08/09 03:39 PM

Rich
Drat. I can't make those dates.
Roger
Posted By: Andy

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 07/08/09 06:39 AM

Tony
Confirm definite for Myself and the boss. We have a contact up here in the Scottish tourist industry who could make alternative hotel suggestions if required. Says ahe knows some "hidden Gems".
Also I know we would be made welcome if we wanted to fit in a visit to RPM Morgan in Perth. Hopefully nobody will need to put their service department to the test.

Andy +4 (In scorching inferno red) woohoo
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 08/08/09 10:23 AM

Hi Andy,

Thanks - you are confirmed. I've also had Robert confirm on the definites list too.

Hotels wise, happy to take suggestions, but the planning for Nick and his team will start next week - so get them in soon smile

A) Definite Lappers for 21-25th April

1. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
2. Aeroman - Brian - SuperSports - 2 People - CONFIRMED
3. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
4. Simon - Simon - Aeromax
5. G4FUJ - Graham - 4/4 - 1 person - CONFIRMED
6. Hopwood - Geoffrey - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
7. 1560 - Steven - Trad - 1 person? - CONFIRMED
8. Cerealsurfer - Andrew - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
9. Andy - Andy - +4 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
10. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
11. Ray1550 - Ray - Aero8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED

B) Potential Lappers
1. 109er - Andy - Trad
2. EL77 - Edward - Aeromax/Aero
3. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8
4. Robbie - Robbie - Trad
5. Woolfie - Woolfie - Aero 8
6. DaveW - Dave - Trad
7. Another - Aero 8
8. Orthodoc - Bill - Aero 8
9. dmat - David - AeroMax (for this trip specially wrapped in Scuderia-Red)

4 spaces remaining at this point.
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 08/08/09 01:43 PM

Hello there redcard , don´t forget me! Move me from 1. of the potentials to the definites please!
englandwave
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 08/08/09 04:25 PM

smile No problem!
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 08/08/09 04:27 PM

A) Definite Lappers for 21-25th April

1. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
2. Aeroman - Brian - SuperSports - 2 People - CONFIRMED
3. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
4. Simon - Simon - Aeromax - CONFIRMED
5. G4FUJ - Graham - 4/4 - 1 person - CONFIRMED
6. Hopwood - Geoffrey - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
7. 1560 - Steven - Roadster - 1 person? - CONFIRMED
8. Cerealsurfer - Andrew - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
9. Andy - Andy - +4 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
10. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
11. Ray1550 - Ray - Aero8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
12 109er - Andy - +2 - 2 people - CONFIRMED

B) Potential Lappers

1. EL77 - Edward - Aeromax/Aero
2. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8
3. Robbie - Robbie - Trad
4. Woolfie - Woolfie - Aero 8
5. DaveW - Dave - Trad
6. Another - Aero 8
7. Orthodoc - Bill - Aero 8
8. dmat - David - AeroMax (for this trip specially wrapped in Scuderia-Red)
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 08/08/09 05:34 PM

Yesss, thank you.
Trad, black 2009 +4, Co-Pilot is my wife Kerstin, I´m only the driver ....
We will come by ferry to Newcastle around 9 am and the drive up to the meeting point. I don´t have the exact time table of the ferry yet, so that´s preliminary.

Andy
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 08/08/09 06:23 PM

No problem - I'll get more details on timing in a couple of weeks as we go through sorting out the hotels etc but I'm sure your plan will fit in just fine smile

Posted By: olleyjp

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 09/08/09 11:41 AM

i'd like to add my name to the definate list if theres a space smile
Would be 2 people.
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 09/08/09 12:59 PM

Originally Posted By 1560
I'll come alone,
fiancé doesn't like Scotland (or mountains or open sea or...)
and she's got to work from time to time (schoolteacher)


Hey Steven, "Fiance' " huh?? laugh you done the dirty deed? Or was she just too worried that ''others' may be available to partner you laugh2

Congratulations, looking forward to wedding invite. I'm sure 50 people from TM would fit nicely into your plans wink
Posted By: Brian_W

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 09/08/09 02:28 PM

Hello Rich,
Please move me from potential to confirmed. Yvonne and myself, Aero 8 Series 2.
Thanks,
Brian W
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 09/08/09 03:26 PM

A) Definite Lappers for 21-25th April

1. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
2. Aeroman - Brian - SuperSports - 2 People - CONFIRMED
3. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
4. Simon - Simon - Aeromax - 2 people - CONFIRMED
5. G4FUJ - Graham - 4/4 - 1 person - CONFIRMED
6. Hopwood - Geoffrey - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
7. 1560 - Steven - Roadster - 1 person? - CONFIRMED
8. Cerealsurfer - Andrew - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
9. Andy - Andy - +4 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
10. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
11. Ray1550 - Ray - Aero8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
12. 109er - Andy - +2 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
13. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8 - 2 People - CONFIRMED

B) Potential Lappers

1. EL77 - Edward - Aeromax/Aero
2. Robbie - Robbie - Trad
3. Woolfie - Woolfie - Aero 8
4. DaveW - Dave - Trad
5. Another - Aero 8
6. Orthodoc - Bill - Aero 8
7. dmat - David - AeroMax (for this trip specially wrapped in Scuderia-Red)

2 places left at this rate smile

I'll run a reserve list once the places are full (first preference to those on the current potential list) so that if anyone is forced to drop out nearer the time then we can keep the trip full.

Posted By: woolfie

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 09/08/09 08:27 PM

Just back from 1500 miles on the west coast, via Ardfern Peninisula (by Oban) as far as Skye and back via Trossachs...brilliant food (and i mean brilliant), service and hotel at Kinloch Lodge (Skye)..and stunning award winning food, wildwilfe and luxury at Mhor Monachyle (spelling) at Balquidder (Rob Roy country).

Aero did really well with roads - a few groundings where the roads became more tracks; some interesting challenges with single tracks with passing places; Skye's - smaller roads - provided the aero with a few heart stopping monents.

A few times in the morning a bit tricky starting, but came to life and then no problem throughout the day(s). Caught some wildlife in the front gril..two small birds at last count. The wing mirrors became a bit loose - but sorted that.

Saw golden eagles, red quirrel, stags, buzzards; porpoises looking from our window at Kinloch Lodge. Gourmet eating, excellent wines and did enough driving to keep me happy for a year.

The drive through Glencoe is just incredible. Did the whole journey with top down besides the last motorway M6 trip from Lake District (Overwater) to home.

Now officially skint..and can't face just at the moment another 1,000 + mile trip, just yet. So let me stay on the potential list until the start of next year.
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 10/08/09 02:26 PM

yep, spread the sad news wine

Originally Posted By Boshly
Originally Posted By 1560
I'll come alone,
fiancé doesn't like Scotland (or mountains or open sea or...)
and she's got to work from time to time (schoolteacher)


Hey Steven, "Fiance' " huh?? laugh you done the dirty deed? Or was she just too worried that ''others' may be available to partner you laugh2

Congratulations, looking forward to wedding invite. I'm sure 50 people from TM would fit nicely into your plans wink
Posted By: olleyjp

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 10/08/09 03:13 PM

Definately stick my name on somewhere haha laugh
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 18/08/09 07:10 AM

some nice morgan+scotland pictures on this clubs website:
http://www.jockmog.org.uk/

how about the red morgan with scottish-flag-radiator being the "logo" on the rally-plates???
Posted By: cerealsurfer

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 18/08/09 08:17 AM

Originally Posted By 1560
u] being the "logo" on the rally-plates???


Not sure about rally-plates.. bit vintage on the Aero.... but what about gumball style vinyl wrap decals for the doors and boot-lid?
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 18/08/09 09:32 AM

Hmmm looking at the site there would appear to be no aeros in Scotland. Well at least based on the pics from the spring meeting.. I think we can change that at least!
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 18/08/09 09:49 AM

I´d love a decent badge of the L.o.S.2010 but I´m not a talented graphics designer at all. Something with a scottish flag as background?

Hope the tour doesn´t turn out to be kind of a gumball race though.

Andy
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 18/08/09 10:15 AM

I can assure you that there is nothing further than the gumball than what we are doing!

There is no element of competition, racing, regularity or otherwise. Participants drive at their own speed following the route provided in the routebook (or another route if they so choose - or get lost(!) ).

In terms of badges to be presented on completion as a record of achievement of completing the tour, leave it to me and I will see what I can do.
Posted By: cerealsurfer

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 18/08/09 11:05 AM

Originally Posted By 109er

Hope the tour doesn´t turn out to be kind of a gumball race though.

Andy


Only using it to reference the graphics format, nothing else.......
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 18/08/09 11:13 AM

stickers: the more the better happy3
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 18/08/09 08:26 PM

Originally Posted By cerealsurfer
Originally Posted By 109er

Hope the tour doesn´t turn out to be kind of a gumball race though.

Andy


Only using it to reference the graphics format, nothing else.......


I know smile

Just being a stickler in case anyone thinks us junior types are thinking of changing our names to Maxamillion and inviting D list celebrities along wink
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 31/08/09 09:17 AM

one of my temporary employees was on honeymoon in Scotland last week, they returned earlier because of rain/not green enough (trees) doh
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 02/09/09 06:06 AM

That were the remnants of Hurricane Bill. They carried an awful lot of water with them and came in from the northwest right into Scotland. Bad luck.
Posted By: Andy

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 02/09/09 11:04 AM

They should have come over to the East side. Its been drier here and there are more trees.

Andy
"In a sunny and warm Aberdeen"
Posted By: Graham, G4FUJ

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/09/09 07:19 AM

Provisional Prescott dates (first meeting) for next year now clash with this event - guess Prescott will have to do without me for two weekends in 2010! wink

Cheers,
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/09/09 11:49 AM

All - can I have a vote from all the attendees. I have the option to move this to the following week 28 April to 02 May.

Can all those on the confirmed list let me know if they want to

stick with current dates (21-25 April
or
swap to the following week (28 Aopril - 02 May)

Please get back to me ASAP.

Regds,
Richard
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/09/09 12:05 PM

Richard,

I'm easy as long as we have the dates fixed before the end of next month. thumbs

John
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/09/09 01:12 PM

stick
unless weather is guaranteed sunny form 28april=>02/05 laugh2
Posted By: Graham, G4FUJ

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/09/09 02:14 PM

Stick.
If it moves, I have to drive up on 27th - SWMBO's birthday. Not a good move!! rofl

Cheers,
Posted By: Hopwood

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 17/09/09 07:48 AM

Richard,
Either week is fine for us, but, 2nd May is Bank Holiday w/end which may effect attendees travelling plans for returning home etc, so I would prefer to stick with current date.

Thanks for the update
Posted By: Graham, G4FUJ

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 17/09/09 08:24 AM

Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
Stick.
If it moves, I have to drive up on 27th - SWMBO's birthday. Not a good move!! rofl

Cheers,

LOL I have a reprieve, provided I take Madame out to dinner before I go, if the week moves back... thumbs

Cheers,
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 17/09/09 04:02 PM

Stick???
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 21/09/09 06:55 AM

General consensus is stick, I'll go back and see what the score is. I think hotels will change a little from the original brochure so will throw in the suggestions made so far on the thread.

I'll keep you updated.
Rich
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 21/09/09 07:29 AM

We´d prefer the later date, would suit us even better because SWMBO has to cancel a seminar to make the first week-end.
Andy
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 21/09/09 03:57 PM

Right the standard hotels / route package as per the original brochure is not possible for the date we selected as one of the hotels is booked out.

Given the group have opted in the main to stick to the original schedule, the only option is to move to other hotels which will increase the cost somewhat. Current estimate is that this would cost an additional 50-100 quid per car.

I think this isok if it means we go the week we want, so unless there is particular pushback on price, I'll instruct the guys to go ahead and make the arrangements.
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 29/09/09 04:05 PM

Hi Guys - Just an update so you're aware I'm still on the case here!

1. The dates will stay as is with the tour kicking off on the 28 as planned.

2. The hotels will be changing from the brochure posted. The update on the hotels will be available towards the beginning of November after our tour guide Nick has had a chance to visit Soctland and personally check out the hotels (not at your expense you understand!). Nick is fastidious about getting the right standard of accommodation / car security etc etc, so given that he has to use hotels he has not previously personally checked he will be doing just that for us at the end of october.

3. I'll be back in touch following Nicks update at the end of Oct with definite prices and the opportunity to place deposits for the week.

This slight delay is due to one of the standard hotels for the tour being unavoidably smile
Posted By: Simon

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 07/10/09 06:03 PM

Originally Posted By olleyjp
Definately stick my name on somewhere haha laugh


James,

As this thread seems to be moving along, and often getting buried in all the others, I'd PM mr_tony and get him to add you to the list, if you'd like to attend.

thumbs
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 07/10/09 08:00 PM

Originally Posted By mr_tony


1. The dates will stay as is with the tour kicking off on the 28 as planned.


so we join in Scotland, on the 28th of april, correct???
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 11/10/09 08:24 AM

Ok Just to avoid any confusion the original dates stand

21-25th.


Thanks to 1560 for spotting my obvious mistake, and for proving that some of you are still awake and listening to my ramblings.

As mentioned, I am awaiting an update on hotels etc which should be ready end of October so we can move ahead to deposits smile
Posted By: Andy

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 15/10/09 07:23 PM

Mr Tony
I am afraid a change of circumstances means we will have to withdraw our names from the tour list. I hope this does not inconvenience too much
Andy
Red +4
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 15/10/09 09:24 PM

Hi Andy smile Sorry you can't make it, hope all is well. As you're in Scotland already you'd be most welcome to join us along the route for a drive / evening meal lunchstop etc. Given the number of people with their name down I'm sure we'll be ok to fill the space.
Posted By: Brian_W

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/10/09 02:09 PM

As I am selling my Series 2 Aero could you please remove my name from the tour list as well.
Thanks,
Brian W
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 29/10/09 04:15 PM

for those who come from far,
will stay at hotel in Glasgow, tuesdayevening
http://www.bestwestern.co.uk/Hotels/Best-Western-Glasgow-Pond-Hotel-83526/Hotel-Info/Default.aspx

returning in two days,
probably staying in Telford(Birmingham, sundayevening)
http://www.bestwestern.co.uk/Hotels/Best-Western-Valley-Hotel-83648/Hotel-Info/Default.aspx
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 17/11/09 09:14 PM

All I have a detailed update from Nick on the Lap of Scotland.

The dates have moved SLIGHTLY but it's still the same week.

If you have already booked travel (1560 for example) let me know if this is a problem.

Brochure

http://ltsc.brinkster.net/images/TM/MAC_Hoon_2010_-_Presentation_171109.pdf


New Proposed Itinerary and costs
--------------------------------------------------------------

Rendezvous (Monday 19 April - early am)

Everyone meets at our normal Rendezvous – Todhills Service Station just north of Carlisle (in the Costa Coffee).

We then head north into Scotland to the first hotel a setting to die for with a bar on the top floor from which you can see the Isle of Jura and sometimes whales and dolphins! No dinner included but option to pre - book set meal here.

Day 1 (Tuesday 20 April)
Leaving Loch Crinan we head through the central Highlands including a fabulous loop near Glencoe before heading north past Fort William and onto the Isle of Skye. Staying at the Cuillin Hills Hotel. Dinner (not included) at one of the various seafood restaurants in the nearby Portree.

Day 2 (Wednesday 21 April)
Leaving Skye we head north with a trip over the Pass of the Cattle (Scotland’s highest pass) to Applecross (in time for elevenses at the Applecross Inn). We then head north around the Gairloch peninsula, past Ullapool to Lochinver to stay at the Inver Lodge Hotel – the best 4* in this part of the World. No dinner included but guests can eat in the hotel. Again option to pre-book a set meal here in advance.

Day 3 (Thursday 22 April)
We head right around the north west tip of Scotland and then along the north coast as far as Thurso (where we should get impressive views of the Orkney Islands). Some single track and some excellent roads, whatever the weather. From Thurso we join the A9 south and then along the east coast (with a fantastic road near Inverness) to Coul House Hotel. Again dinner not included but option to pre book set meal.

Day 4 (Friday 23 April)
Heading south we venture into Speyside Whisky country and over the Grampians for an impromptu visit to Balmoral Castle. From Balmoral we head south along the excellent A93 before cutting past Pitlochry and then down the A9 to our final hotel – Atholl Palace located in Pitlochry. No dinner included but guests can eat in the hotel or the excellent Moulin Pub.

Following Day (Saturday 24 April)
Guests make their way home at their own leisure.

Dates and Costs
We had to move the dates slightly to ensure we had a decent hotel to stay in near Inverness. Coul House is beautiful but they will not allow us to stay for 1 night on a Friday or Saturday. Hence we moved the itinerary to ensure we stay there on a Thursday (22 April). The costs have inevitably slightly increased as we have added a further night so we can drive on the Isle of Skye and the increased quality of the hotels.

Costs

1400 for 1 car with 2 people
950 for 1 car with 1 person

Alternative
We could reduce the trip by 1 night to exclude the route along the North Coast (even though it is very special). This means you could run the trip from Tuesday 20 – Friday 23 April as follows:

20 April – Crinan Hotel
21 April – Cuillin Hills
22 April – Coul House
23 April – Atholl Palace

This would reduce the cost as well (I await an exact figure on the reduction)

Finally, I'd like to thank Nick at Dettaglio for all his hard work - he has personally driven the entire route in the last few weeks and checked all the hotels. He is a discerning chap when it comes to roads and hotels, so I'm assured that this really will be a very special trip.

In terms of the higher costs, I'm open to all your comments - and happy to take a vote on reducing the length of the trip to 4 days if people prefer for timings / costs.

It's bloody hard work all this sorting out trips! Hope you all think it's worth it!

Cheers,
Rich









Posted By: Graham, G4FUJ

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 18/11/09 08:35 AM

All looks good.
No problem with dates (bought extra leave for next year anyway - might as well get out and about!).
But, one extra day, 50% hike in price pale. OK the original was a 'guide' TBC.
I'll commit once I know whether I have survived the present round of redundancies (allegedly another 1109 to go by Jan 31st 2010 scared ).

Cheers,
Posted By: Ray 1550

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 18/11/09 08:51 AM

Richard,

Thanks for all the work you have put in, I have been on quite a few organised tours and I know how much work goes on in the background.

I think the itinery looks excellent and would not want to miss out on the North coast, my feeling is if you are to make the effort to go to Scotland, see as much as you can whilst you are there.

So my vote is for the full tour. Dates and costs are OK for me.

Ray T
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 18/11/09 02:45 PM

all fine for me happy3
but preferring the WHOLE TRIP&WEEK drive
looking forward, both drive&scenery woohoo
not to mention your guys company cheers

Posted By: Hopwood

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 18/11/09 03:18 PM

Dates and venues OK with us, Skye is a bonus.

Really looking forward to the trip, thanks for all your efforts.

PS: Rich, did you get my PM about Brooklands College?
Posted By: cerealsurfer

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 26/11/09 07:49 PM

We are absolutely gutted..... we can't get a whole week..... frown
You'll have to take Missprint's and my names off the list

Hope you guy's have a great time though


Dang & blast... (kicks stones around on floor)
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 27/11/09 08:46 AM

Andy, thats no fun at all frown
Posted By: Simon

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 27/11/09 09:31 AM

Rich, how many people do you need to make it work?

What is the minimum number?

You may have mentioned it before, and if so, apologies. smile
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 27/11/09 10:31 AM

OK so a list update.

We need 8 cars minimum - and can take up to 12 (And possibly more) so if you want to get on the definites list let me know - there is a space)

If you're on the definites list and haven't confirmed / sent your email address to me via pm please do so.

A) Definite Lappers for 19-24th April

1. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8 - 2 people CONFIRMED
2. Aeroman - Brian - SuperSports - 2 People
3. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8 - 2 people
4. Simon - Simon - Aeromax
5. G4FUJ - Graham - 4/4 - 1 person - TBC
6. Hopwood - Geoffrey - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
7. 1560 - Steven - Roadster - 1 person? - CONFIRMED
8. Andy - Andy - +4 - 2 people
9. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
10. Ray1550 - Ray - Aero8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
11 109er - Andy - +2 - 2 people -

B) Potential Lappers

1. EL77 - Edward - Aeromax/Aero
2. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8
3. Robbie - Robbie - Trad
4. Woolfie - Woolfie - Aero 8
5. DaveW - Dave - Trad
6. Another - Aero 8
7. Orthodoc - Bill - Aero 8
8. dmat - David - AeroMax (for this trip specially wrapped in Scuderia-Red)
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 08/01/10 08:51 AM

OK - so I have the official registration forms through from the tour company and will send them out over the weekend to those on the list.

Look forward to firming up attendance with everyone - not long now - lets hope scotland thaws out for us!

Cheers,
Richard
Posted By: Andy

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 08/01/10 12:18 PM

Richard
Sorry you need to amend the list and delete No 8 Andy +4. I had to drop out earlier (post #36186 15th October)

Regards
Andy
Posted By: woolfie

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 10/01/10 10:57 PM

best to take me off the "potential lappers"..change of car in the offing.
Posted By: Graham, G4FUJ

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 11/01/10 09:13 AM

Unfortunately,
I will now have to definitely drop out too.
Having just spent £1300 bailing step daughter out of financial problems I feel rather sick2 ...

Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 11/01/10 12:55 PM

A) Definite Lappers

1. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8 - 2 people CONFIRMED
2. Aeroman - Brian - SuperSports - 2 People
3. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8 - 2 people
4. Simon - Simon - Aeromax
5. Hopwood - Geoffrey - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
6. 1560 - Steven - Roadster - 1 person? - CONFIRMED
7. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
8. Ray1550 - Ray - Aero8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
9. 109er - Andy - +2 - 2 people

B) Potential Lappers

1. EL77 - Edward - Aeromax/Aero
2. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8
3. DaveW - Dave - Trad
4. Another - Aero 8
5. Orthodoc - Bill - Aero 8
6. dmat - David - AeroMax
Posted By: Robbie

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 11/01/10 01:53 PM

Guys,
I will have to pass on this - I have to travel to the US at that time. However I am definitelty going to the Le Mans Classic in July so may see some of you guys there.

R
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 12/01/10 12:29 PM

1560 - thanks for the updates - busy busy here and missed my opportunity to update the list last night.

I will send forms out to all who are on the list.

Given the drop outs above (no problem guys) if anyone on the potentials list wants to come it's now open - say you're in on here or drop me a mail via the site.

Cheers,
Rich
Posted By: Cicerone

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 15/01/10 02:28 PM

Just re: midges, I spent 3 weeks in Harris one July doing archaeology (yes, my life is/was that exciting) and it was a case of they seem to like particular people. So you can't guarentee anything; I smelt wonderful, ergo they didn't want to bite me. Bring along the strongest DEET you can and some after-bite cream, just in case!
Posted By: Midas

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/01/10 09:45 AM

Rich is there already a rough roadplan? I'm over in Speyside every month (with rental car), but could take the ferry to Rosyth for a change. Thx
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 19/01/10 08:33 AM

Hi Midas there is but I'm in Singapore so can't check it right now as have meetings. General trip outline is on this thread so it will tell you if we're in the general area.

Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 19/01/10 08:36 AM

ALL - I have sent out the forms - please complete and forward on to Nick @ Dettaglio. Please also confirm to me via email you have recieved a form. I'm trying to get the numbers / forms sorted out in the next week or so, so a confirmation of your attendance and a date when you'll get the forms in is appreciated.

Anyone on the 'reserve' list there are some spaces available - contact me here to get a form to sign up.

Likewise if anyone has friends / neighbours etc who would like to attend (even if not in a Mog) let me know.

Finally - Hopwood - I don't have your address so cannot send you a form - please contact me via here with your email address.

Cheers,
Richard
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 20/01/10 02:56 PM

Ok - so there are potentially 6 spaces available on the LOS - drop me a mail on here if you're interested in joining some fellow Morgan owners on some of the best roads in Scotland during the week of 19th April.
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 21/01/10 05:54 AM

Allright, I received the registration form and will send it out this week. Meeting point is along the motorway north of Carlisle on Monday, April 19th. The ferry to Newcastle arrives there around 9 a.m. and if there are no delays, it should be possible to be at that petrol station around 11 a.m.
Is that realistic and does it match the schedule of the event?

Andy
Posted By: uvk33n

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 21/01/10 10:39 AM

Originally Posted By 109er
The ferry to Newcastle arrives there around 9 a.m. and if there are no delays, it should be possible to be at that petrol station around 11 a.m.
Is that realistic....
Andy


Andy the ferry arrives at 9.00am but it is unlikely you will disembark before 9.30am. On a best case scenario it'll probably be 9.45am before you clear passport control. I think the first services north of Carlisle is at Gretna which is 75 miles away. You have to cross Newcastle and then take the A69 to Carlisle. Much of this is single carriageway with a 60 mph speed limit. It is the main east/west connection so during the day there will be quite a few lorries on it and it can be difficult to overtake safely. You can avoid part of the A69 by coming off it at Heddon on the Wall and taking the old Roman Road which runs parallel, following the line of the Roman Wall. Much better and safer. I would err on the side of safety and expect to arrive at the services between 11.30 and 11.45am.
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 21/01/10 03:48 PM

Hi Andy,

As long as we know your schedule we'll make sure it fits your ferry timing - don't worry smile

There is a detailed routebook that will be provided post sign up to those taking part detailing times etc, if necessary we will make some ammendments to ensure everyone meets up at a sensible spot.

Cheers,
Richard
Posted By: Aeroman

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 22/01/10 10:37 AM

Hi Rich,

I'm sorry that due to business commitments I can't commit at this stage to The Lap. frown If there are still places available nearer the time and our schedule allows it, then if we can we'd still like to come.

Cheers
Brian
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 22/01/10 05:28 PM

Brian it will be a pity if you don't make it I was looking forward to seeing Supersport in action gloomy
Posted By: Aeroman

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 22/01/10 06:39 PM

Now got a build date and agreed spec. We are still supposed to be meeting so that I can sight the spumoni special in the flesh. innocent

grin2
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 22/01/10 09:11 PM

Originally Posted By Aeroman
Now got a build date and agreed spec.
grin2


Spill the beans then.
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 23/01/10 07:22 AM

Originally Posted By Aeroman
Now got a build date and agreed spec. We are still supposed to be meeting so that I can sight the spumoni special in the flesh. innocent

grin2

you make us curious!!!!!
Posted By: Aeroman

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 23/01/10 09:15 AM

It goes into build the first week in March, so if anyone is visiting the works after that I'll let you have the chassis number and you can pleeese let me have some photos. winky

Luckily on my last couple of visits to the Works, Boshers has been busy so he has perforce been dropped as my colour consultant. This is a bit of a merciful relief, as he has this penchant for Austin Princess brown velour interiors. sick2
So not long to go now and I'm looking forward to picking it up sometime after Easter. cheers flag
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 23/01/10 09:20 AM

Originally Posted By asbojohn
Originally Posted By Aeroman
Now got a build date and agreed spec.
grin2


Spill the beans then.


In Brians absence I'm sure he won't mind me telling you. Has a most unique feature that I have not yet heard on any Morgan:

Dark brown body, light brown interior and chocolate wheels. Think Princess Vanden Plas circa '77 with gorgeous painted chocolate wheels.

I understand MMC are still debating the vinyl on the targa section but if anyone can persuade them Brian can!

Can't wait to see it Brian!
Posted By: Rbt Aero8

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 23/01/10 02:32 PM

Originally Posted By Boshly
Originally Posted By asbojohn
Originally Posted By Aeroman
Now got a build date and agreed spec.
grin2


Spill the beans then.


In Brians absence I'm sure he won't mind me telling you. Has a most unique feature that I have not yet heard on any Morgan:

Dark brown body, light brown interior and chocolate wheels. Think Princess Vanden Plas circa '77 with gorgeous painted chocolate wheels.

I understand MMC are still debating the vinyl on the targa section but if anyone can persuade them Brian can!

Can't wait to see it Brian!


Ah Boshly ever the card!

However to carry on from where you left off if only because I liked the direction you were heading.
I have it on good authority that MMC are currently putting an airbag version of the 'quartic' steering wheel through exhaustive tests! innocent

That's enough of the joking!

I know which colours Brian has chosen for both interior and exterior and without giving the game away his Supersports is going to look absolutely sensational! flag

Congratulations Brian on a stunning spec! sunny

Kindest Regards,

Robert
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 23/01/10 03:41 PM

Well he told me the above spec on our recent trip to the Autosport show so he's telling porkies to one of us mad2 swear

PS Quartic airbag sounds great accompaniment smile
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 25/01/10 11:08 AM

Ok so latest on the take up.
We have 7 cars signing up, and I have confirmations from most of you that you're sending forms / money this week.

If you didn't get the forms - please mail me on the site and I'll get them to you.

We need 10 cars for the trip to proceed - so there are 3 spaces we need to fill pronto - so if you're on the possibles list, please feel free to drop me a mail ASAP - it's first come first served so we can get things confirmed ASAP.


A) Definite Lappers

1. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8 - 2 people
2. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8 - 2 people
3. Hopwood - Geoffrey - Aero 8 - 2 people
4. 1560 - Steven - Roadster - 1 person?
5. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8 - 2 people
6. Ray1550 - Ray - Aero8 - 2 people
7. 109er - Andy - +2 - 2 people


B) Potential Lappers

1. EL77 - Edward - Aeromax/Aero
2. Brian_W - Brian - Aero 8
3. DaveW - Dave - Trad
4. Another - Aero 8
5. Orthodoc - Bill - Aero 8
6. dmat - David - AeroMax
7. Aeroman - Brian - SuperSports - 2 People
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 26/01/10 06:45 AM

Rich,

I will be 'flying' solo, unless of course I get lucky on the way up in which case I'll have a gorgeous nubile blonde (or brunette or redhead) with me wink

Whilst mentioned by others, I have not said so myself, so sincere thanks for all your efforts in getting this all organised.
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 26/01/10 09:36 AM

Thanks for checking in Boshers. I'll leave you as a +2 given your legendary ways with the ladies ;-)

Come on then roll up roll up - 3 placed to fill still.

Cerial - any word from your R8 driving friend who was interested initially?

Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 26/01/10 10:46 AM

maybe give a deadline for Talkmorgan,
and then invite thrue clubs/pistonheads/...
to fill up the gaps

most of my friends go the week befor on a supercar-valley-ride
(lambo-factory incl.) so they wan't make it...
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 26/01/10 01:39 PM

Ok spoken to the tour team and we have until Sunday for Morgan folk to sign up after that its first come first served all marques welcome.
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 27/01/10 03:44 PM

Ok, I did some PR here and am waiting for the response.

I sent the registration form to Dettaglio.

Latest news is that I´ll drive solo, too.

Andy
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 27/01/10 05:37 PM

Thanks Andy - let me know how it goes.
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 28/01/10 10:27 AM

Originally Posted By Boshly
Rich,

I will be 'flying' solo, unless of course I get lucky on the way up in which case I'll have a gorgeous nubile blonde (or brunette or redhead) with me wink


Bosh,
she wants to come with you
(my V6 is not good enough, and I told about your fetish with handbags)
might want to get her a new smaller handbag though
Posted By: Hopwood

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 31/01/10 09:57 AM

Now my mind is running wild.....that hair on the table at the bottom of the picture....where did it come from??? oops

Somegody's spare chest wig perhaps?? sick2
or just extra insulation for open top driving for Scotland in April (deposit paid, counting the days) smile
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 03/02/10 06:52 AM

Hey, that's where my toupee' ended up doh
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 03/02/10 03:40 PM

And I thought it was her fur lined knickers laugh2
Posted By: DaveW

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 03/02/10 05:13 PM

Nah....that's a massage table and Dennis the Menace has passed out after being given one.

A full service I mean.....

She's off to get more baby oil.
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 15/02/10 02:42 PM

hmmm, defenitely taking the Roadster,
Aero(max) has no vents (heating) toward the legs

Spring Weather in Scotland
Let's start with spring, since it's mid-April as I'm writing this. Daytime temperatures in March, April and May tend not to be too warm. The temperature in Scotland during the day can vary from around 4degC to around 13degC with the occasional warmer day up to around 18degC. Night time temperatures tend to hover around 0degC but can go a few degrees colder. Winds in spring are generally not that bad but you can have occasional gales at any time, but more likely in March than April or May. Rain is definitely a feature of springtime and heavy showers can be frequent. Any time until the end of April, especially in the highlands you can get snow or hail showers. These generally don't lie except on the mountains. May often has good long settled spells without bad rain or particularly cold nights and because the midges haven't come out yet it is one of the best months to visit Scotland weather-wise.
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 18/02/10 08:51 AM

Allright, I booked the ferry to Newcastle on 18. Feb. and arriving 19. Feb in the morning. The battery is charged, the tank is full, the Mog is waiting for an exercise.

Is anyone else taking this ferry, too?

I´m looking forward to seeing everyone,
Andy
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 18/02/10 12:10 PM

1560 - bring the Max - won't be that cold - and you'll be warmer than in a trad with the doors sealed against the wind!!

Really looking forward to this, but keen to find more people to join us - anyone know someone who might be up for this? Spread the word and lets get 10 Morgans on board..
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 18/02/10 02:49 PM

I'll make a short promo-text and send it round
Posted By: Graham, G4FUJ

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 18/02/10 02:55 PM

I think Andy might be a couple of months early - arriving 19 Feb?
smile
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 18/02/10 02:56 PM

Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
I think Andy might be a couple of months early - arriving 19 Feb?
smile

cheers
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 18/02/10 03:27 PM

GGGG...
of course it´s April. I was busy getting the days right.

By the way, I did some PR in Germany, but haven´t got a single response yet.

Andy
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 19/02/10 09:24 AM

Rich,

How are we doing with numbers now?
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 19/02/10 02:57 PM

spoiler
so don't click the link if you wanna be surprised
http://maps.google.nl/maps?f=d&sourc...812988&z=11
Posted By: Hopwood

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 19/02/10 03:26 PM

Originally Posted By 1560

so don't click the link if you wanna be surprised


Already checked this route and excited to see it again thumbs, really looking forward to driving up the West coast and along the top....actually the whole trip! drive

Paying my balance on Monday..hope we make the required number, Rich?

Any thoughts on a stopover for the Sunday night before meeting at Carlisle services? I'm thinking of driving up afternoon/evening yawn and so a bed for the night, so maybe a Premier Inn or suchlike?

See y'all soon,
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 19/02/10 04:13 PM

Originally Posted By Hopwood



Any thoughts on a stopover for the Sunday night before meeting at Carlisle services? I'm thinking of driving up afternoon/evening yawn and so a bed for the night, so maybe a Premier Inn or suchlike?

See y'all soon,


count me in!!!
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 20/02/10 01:02 PM

We have the required number (minimum) 7 cars so the trip is going ahead, but more would of course be nice!
smile
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 23/02/10 10:38 AM

Right all - just chasing up on final payments.
Anyone who hasn't sent the balance yet - it's getting to that time to send the final amount through this week.

Option still open for others to join in what will be a fantastic trip on some amazing roads with a jolly nice bunch of fellow mog drivers smile
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 25/02/10 05:11 PM

I'm driving up there:

wales
snowdonia
great lake district


hell, once I'm in the UK,
I might get it ALL

(tracks excluded frown )
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 25/02/10 06:00 PM

Originally Posted By 1560
Originally Posted By Hopwood



Any thoughts on a stopover for the Sunday night before meeting at Carlisle services? I'm thinking of driving up afternoon/evening yawn and so a bed for the night, so maybe a Premier Inn or suchlike?

See y'all soon,


count me in!!!


Yup, me too smile
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 26/02/10 07:59 AM

Originally Posted By Boshly
Originally Posted By 1560
Originally Posted By Hopwood



Any thoughts on a stopover for the Sunday night before meeting at Carlisle services? I'm thinking of driving up afternoon/evening yawn and so a bed for the night, so maybe a Premier Inn or suchlike?

See y'all soon,


count me in!!!


Yup, me too smile

you drive along, wales etc?
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 26/02/10 08:03 AM

Originally Posted By mr_tony
1560 - bring the Max - won't be that cold - and you'll be warmer than in a trad with the doors sealed against the wind!!


well, have asked to UP the limited milage,
but have to decide when taking maxie,
I do 3 (and maybe a 4th) roadtrips this year,
so probably the one with the most convenient milage will
be done driving maxie

this might be handy: link
Posted By: Hopwood

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 26/02/10 02:47 PM

Have booked a room at Premier Inn J44 M6.

http://www.premierinn.com/en/checkHotelAvailability!execute.action

This is just off J44 of M6 and is 3.5 miles from meeting point at Todhills Service Station. There is a special offer on at the moment which means that room only for one night is just £29. Maybe not the most salubrious of hotels, but as a clean bed for the night, looks like reasonably secure parking and for an early start on the Monday morning - ticks all the boxes. thumbs Saves me some money to spend on a few drams of single malt over the next week! wine

As it is just off the junction then it is easily accessable from North or South (we shall be coming from the South)

As online bookings are required I'll leave this to you to decide if this option also suits you.

Off now to book the car in for service - hey-ho lurk
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 26/02/10 04:09 PM

Originally Posted By 1560
Wales?


Nope, shortest route, straight up M1/M6???
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 26/02/10 04:15 PM

Ahh the night before in the premier Inn - looks like the sensible option! I shall check in with mrs t but looks like the smart money is on that..
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 27/02/10 07:44 AM

Wanna convoy big fella wink
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 27/02/10 11:30 AM

I think a convoy would only be right an proper!
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 27/02/10 04:37 PM

Originally Posted By mr_tony
I think a convoy would only be right an proper!


do you mean washed cars?????????? envy
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 28/02/10 07:29 AM

Originally Posted By 1560
Originally Posted By mr_tony
I think a convoy would only be right an proper!


do you mean washed cars?????????? envy


Can be dirty as you like....
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 28/02/10 08:01 AM

Originally Posted By 1560
Originally Posted By mr_tony
I think a convoy would only be right an proper!


do you mean washed cars?????????? envy


No! I mean that a convoy is the correct course of action smile
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 28/02/10 08:56 AM

well let's setup a RDV-point
and timing,
I need to book the Chunnel!!!!
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 28/02/10 01:25 PM

RDV point I would suggest is one of the service stations on the M40?

It's a 6 hour drive for me (less if clear) so I suggest earler rather than later?

Steven, when are you crossing La Manche?
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 28/02/10 03:20 PM

location: copy/past this in Google : 51.73814,-1.096693
then click on the link besides the small map and then you get the whole map,
it's the "oxford daily inn", before Oxford-city on the M40
I could be there around midday and we could have lunch there
Posted By: Hopwood

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 01/03/10 09:58 AM

Due to other arrangements, we should be able to get to Oxford Services by 13:00 latest, so join you for coffee and then we can be off. drive
My thought is M40, M42, M6 toll, M6 to J44. This should take about 5 hours and we will need to agree another RDV for comfort stop and petrol!

Andy, I'll PM you to exchange our mobile numbers (Diane is navigator and communications officer cop) so we can be in contact if anything changes on the day.

See y'all soon
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 02/03/10 06:26 AM

The Plan is forming smile

PM received and replied to ....
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 02/03/10 06:40 AM

ok, I'll book the chunnel to be sure to arrive around lunchtime at Oxford Days Inn

better link

maybe it is time to make a mobile-phone-numbers-list
Andy, maybe handy to enlarge the group on that PM
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 02/03/10 06:57 AM

Originally Posted By 1560
ok, I'll book the chunnel to be sure to arrive around lunchtime at Oxford Days Inn

better link

maybe it is time to make a mobile-phone-numbers-list
Andy, maybe handy to enlarge the group on that PM


I'm not giving you my mobile phone number, you'll start phoning me inviting me to Spa and other places I can't resist grin2 wink

I'll try but seem to think it can't be done as I tried before. If not will start a new one.
Posted By: Hopwood

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 02/03/10 08:15 AM

I'm pretty sure the Days Inn does not have a restaurant as it relies on the facilities at the service station:

http://www.welcomebreak.co.uk/FindMotorwayService/Oxford.htm

Looks as if we will join you for a Cafe Primo? coffee
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 02/03/10 09:05 AM

hmmm, why not start in style and eat some fat/sugar at the Burger King and feel bad afterwards rofl

ok 13:00 at CaféPrimo
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 02/03/10 10:11 AM

Mmmmmmburgerking.
Lots of energy required for a long drive - seems justifiable..

Mobile phone list is good, I also have walkie talkies with a range of around 5 km, but only 3 of them. If you have any bring them along. Always useful for car to car conversations...
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 02/03/10 08:22 PM

I'll bring a load of walkie talkies, I can borrow them off the Rabbit Run guys.
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 03/03/10 10:49 AM

which hotel in Carlisle????

and who stays there:
Boshly (Andy)
Tony (Tango)
Steven (1560)
Hopwood (ggw)

(booked chunnel, forgot time-difference, will have breakfast&lunch in UK doh )
Posted By: Hopwood

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 03/03/10 05:19 PM

Originally Posted By 1560
which hotel in Carlisle????



Premier Inn Junction44 of M6.

http://www.premierinn.com (search on Todhills)

This is just off J44 of M6 and is 3.5 miles from meeting point at Todhills Service Station. There is a special offer on at the moment (closes on 18th April!!!!!) which means that room only for one night is just £29.

Online booking required.
Our room is booked.
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 03/03/10 06:59 PM

and who stays there:
Boshly (Andy)
Tony (Tango)
Steven (1560)
Hopwood (ggw)
Asbo (John)


Must pay for the trip keep forgetting. But strangely haven't been chased!

Looking forward to giving the car a decent run.
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 04/03/10 07:07 AM

I've paid but had no response or confirmation?? Rich? RICH??

smile
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 04/03/10 09:15 AM

Abso - pay for the trip. Consider yourself officially chased.

Boshly - have you filled in the forms etc?

Oh and I'm confirmed for the travelodge too BTW smile
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 04/03/10 12:34 PM

Originally Posted By mr_tony


Boshly - have you filled in the forms etc?


Yup, scanned and emailed, copied you in, asked if you received it and you said yes you had. Do I need to do anything else?????
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 04/03/10 06:12 PM

Whose missing form the night at the travel lodge then???
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 05/03/10 06:25 AM

Me, I´m on the ferry!
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 05/03/10 05:39 PM

boshers - I dunno - I've been in South Africa all week so not had chance to call Nick - will talk Monday. Sure all is ok though.
Rich
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 06/03/10 10:58 AM

Originally Posted By Hopwood
Originally Posted By 1560
which hotel in Carlisle????



Premier Inn Junction44 of M6.

http://www.premierinn.com (search on Todhills)

This is just off J44 of M6 and is 3.5 miles from meeting point at Todhills Service Station. There is a special offer on at the moment (closes on 18th April!!!!!) which means that room only for one night is just £29.

Online booking required.
Our room is booked.


booked

another go at checking the boundaries of the forum:
orders for BELGIAN BEERS: PM
(not Westvleteren!!!!!)
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 06/03/10 06:55 PM

Originally Posted By 109er
Me, I´m on the ferry!
Originally Posted By 109er
Me, I´m on the ferry!


Sorry Andy,

If we all end up at the travel lodge chances are you will get the better nights sleep on the ferry than we will. wine
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 07/03/10 08:10 AM

Originally Posted By 1560


another go at checking the boundaries of the forum:
orders for BELGIAN BEERS: PM
(not Westvleteren!!!!!)


Beers? Pah, Belgian chocolates? Now you're talking laugh
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 07/03/10 11:28 AM

Originally Posted By Boshly
Originally Posted By 1560


another go at checking the boundaries of the forum:
orders for BELGIAN BEERS: PM
(not Westvleteren!!!!!)


Beers? Pah, Belgian chocolates? Now you're talking laugh

easier to pack thumbs
Posted By: Ray 1550

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 08/03/10 11:20 AM

Booked

Premier Inn that is, not the Travel Lodge. Is someone trying to confuse? not difficult in my case!

Those staying at the Premier Inn:
Boshly (Andy)
Tony (Tango)
Steven (1560)
Hopwood (ggw)
Asbo (John)
Ray 1550 (Ray)

Ray 1550
Posted By: Ray 1550

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 08/03/10 11:29 AM

I have just double checked the email trail, I know I have got the list wrong, I am sure someone will put me right.

Ray 1550
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 08/03/10 02:09 PM

Originally Posted By Ray 1550
I have just double checked the email trail, I know I have got the list wrong, I am sure someone will put me right.

Ray 1550


Ray your right and I'm wrong doh
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 11/03/10 07:06 AM

is this our group????

1. mr_tony - Rich - Aero 8 - 2 people CONFIRMED
2. Boshly - Andy - Aero 8 - single - confirmed
3. Hopwood - Geoffrey - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
4. 1560 - Steven - Roadster - 1 person - CONFIRMED (bar rafaeli still not sure)
5. AsboJohn - John - Aero 8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
6. Ray1550 - Ray - Aero8 - 2 people - CONFIRMED
7. 109er - Andy - +2 - 2 people (if the boat doesn't sink)

will stikers be made by organisator or do I make some????
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 11/03/10 08:00 AM

One correction: I´ll drive alone, leaves more space for stuff and improves power/weight ratio. And Nick has confirmed that he received my funds.
So let´s rock...
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 11/03/10 01:06 PM

Ok so we are all good. Still a couple of spaces if there are last minute takers out there.

Regarding stickers I would avoid them altogether. We're not doing the cannonball run here! Stickers are also an open invitation to be stopped and quizzed because of the reputation of CB style events,, Why give that impression when we're not doing that kind of thing at all..
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/03/10 07:29 AM

I agree with Rich especially in view of CB style stickers but a Classic Rally style with "Talk Morgan Lap of Scotland" or suchlike should not necessarily arouse unwanted attention?

I'm easy either way....
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/03/10 08:14 AM

Originally Posted By Boshly
I agree with Rich especially in view of CB style stickers but a Classic Rally style with "Talk Morgan Lap of Scotland" or suchlike should not necessarily arouse unwanted attention?

I'm easy either way....


did terrible things happen in the UK concerning the CB,
here in .BE we found it funny to see them cope with our police,
heard about deaths but not in the UK

here we all have "tours" with stickers&stuff and we even leave them on even days after the event
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/03/10 11:26 AM

The general advice is that stickers mean you are much more likely to get stopped. Rightly or wrongly CB style exents are not well regarded in the uk and will often attract a "high profile' police response.

Also if one person with stickers causes offense (even something as innocent as a loud exhast) a sticker is an identifying mark and the police will then feel obliged to stop everyone similarly stickered.

This isn"t just my opinion but the suggestion of the tour organiser based on extensive experience and in the interests of us enjoying our trip smile

I'm not a complete party pooper, just trying to ensure we don't present the wrong kind of image and end up drawing unwanted attention to ourselves.
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/03/10 11:28 AM

The excepttion is where it's for charity, or there is a sponsor involved where stickers do have a place...
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/03/10 03:27 PM

I don't mind,
I just wanted to know why situation is so different compared to what's done here

for me it's about doing 100mph on little backroads,
errr I mean 50mph

don't worry, I'll get my speed-kicks before Scotland:
20/03: SpaFrancorchamps
28/03: fast roadtrip
02/04: Ring
maybe 06/04: SpaFrancorchamps
10-11/04: Ring
13/04: drifcourse caterham
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/03/10 05:29 PM

Hey there will be great roads and plenty of fun driving smile wish I had your schedule thoiugh - I have only managed 2 drives in 4 months!
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 14/03/10 09:22 AM

well yesterday, (saturday), I spend most of the day with one of my job-students, she does law and we updated the rules for the workforce,
everyone has boring days/periods

think we all look forward to our trip,
scenery/roads/bosh's new handbag&wig smile
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 14/03/10 01:16 PM

Originally Posted By 1560
....
scenery/roads/bosh's new handbag&wig smile

mad2 slap

grin2
Posted By: uvk33n

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 14/03/10 08:21 PM

If you have time, I would recommend you leave the M6 at Penrith (J40) and take the A686 to Alston as mentioned in Aeroman's post Britain's best and worst roads. The detour taking the A686 to Alston and then the A689 to the A69 would add 25 miles to your journey to Junction 44. Continuing through Alston on the A686 to join the A69 at Haydon Bridge would give you a memorable drive but would add a further 20 miles. You should be pleasantly surprised by how traffic-free this road is.

If you want a break before making this detour, I would suggest you stop at the Tebay services one mile north of M6 junction 38. This is the only privately-owned Motorway services. Details can be found here.
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 15/03/10 05:40 AM

Thanks Ken,

Much appreciated. Anything to break up the monotony of the M6 would be good but those two suggestions sound even better smile
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 15/03/10 07:08 AM

Tebay services gets a thumbs up from me, stopped there for breakfast on the way back from my last Scotland trip in a mog 5 years ago. Didn't realise its special status, no wonder the fry up was so good!

As for detours, sounds like fun guess we will have to play it by ear.
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 15/03/10 07:48 AM

I'm in the more time of the motorway the better. thumbs
Posted By: Graham, G4FUJ

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 15/03/10 10:32 AM

Tebay - best motorway services on the whole UK road system!

I understand the same people may take on potential new services at junction 12 of the M5 - just down the road! smile
Posted By: uvk33n

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 15/03/10 11:14 AM

Originally Posted By mr_tony
As for detours, sounds like fun guess we will have to play it by ear.


If you decide to take the longer option via Haydon Bridge, instead of following the A69 head north out of Haydon Bridge and join the B6318 which runs parallel to the Roman Wall and rejoins the A69 at Greenhead. The A69 is the main east-west connection and can be slow-moving, whereas the B6318 will be relatively traffic-free.
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 15/03/10 01:18 PM

sounds like music to my ears!!!!
detours: that's why Morgan makes our cars fun to drive!!!!
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 15/03/10 06:00 PM




I've found the Tartan, whose going for a kilt
Morgan Tartan
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 18/03/10 12:39 PM

All, spoke to Nick earlier and routebooks due on April 6th so you'll have time to review the route in advance / program your satnav etc....
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 23/03/10 12:00 PM

on wednesday-morning: fitness
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 24/03/10 06:28 AM

Originally Posted By 1560
on wednesday-morning: fitness


Thanks Steven, I watched all 7.5 minutes and I feel a lot fitter now.

grin2
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 30/03/10 06:30 AM

a new blanket of snow in Scotland????
http://www.demorgen.be/dm/nl/5396/Extree...Schotland.dhtml
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 30/03/10 08:09 AM

Yep :-) Banks of snow coming though the next couple of days.
If we get snow we will have some fabulous pictures at least smile

Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 30/03/10 09:33 AM

I have winter tyres on the Elise, but not (yet) on the Morgan. Wait and see ...
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 30/03/10 10:07 AM

I hope not having driven from the factory home in the snow.

300 miles per day in the snow not my idea of fun. frown2


Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 30/03/10 10:13 AM

pity for those with wite cars then,
they'll be invisible laugh2
concerning tyres: HELP
would we really consider putting snow-tires on???
I have the regular
(not semi-slicks like most would think when they now my track-record)
Posted By: GLLHG

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 30/03/10 10:38 AM

This might be of interest!! evil hide


http://www.onthesnow.co.uk/scotland/skireport.html

G
Posted By: another

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 30/03/10 12:30 PM

Gosh!
You may need some socks!

http://www.autosock.co.uk/
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 30/03/10 04:54 PM

Originally Posted By another
Gosh!
You may need some socks!

http://www.autosock.co.uk/


What we need is a good bout of global warming. Its like buses you wait ages and then it doesn't turn up when you want. ooo

On the plus side at least we won't have any midges to contest with, although I'm now starting to worry about polar bears
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 30/03/10 05:47 PM

Originally Posted By asbojohn
Originally Posted By another
Gosh!
You may need some socks!

http://www.autosock.co.uk/


What we need is a good bout of global warming. Its like buses you wait ages and then it doesn't turn up when you want. ooo

On the plus side at least we won't have any midges to contest with, although I'm now starting to worry about polar bears


I've heard that some member might show up,
with his car dressed up like a polar bear rofl
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 30/03/10 07:00 PM

Don't you mean like this



Except with a 12 pack rather than a 6 pack. hide
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 30/03/10 07:12 PM

Taken from the BBC Weather, so probably wrong.

Monday 12 April 2010 to Sunday 25 April 2010
Few signs of prolonged, settled spells.
There are signs that the weather will remain unsettled, although drier and brighter spells are a little more likely in this fortnight. Rainfall amounts should be average for the time of year. Temperature amounts should stay close to or below the seasonal norm.
Posted By: GLLHG

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 30/03/10 08:07 PM

Asbo,
Well, should all be OK then!!
Cheers G

PS Putting on my 'not too bright Welshman' hat, what exactly does it mean? doh
Posted By: Graham, G4FUJ

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 31/03/10 06:08 AM

Originally Posted By asbojohn
Taken from the BBC Weather, so probably wrong.

Monday 12 April 2010 to Sunday 25 April 2010
There are signs that the weather will remain unsettled, although drier and brighter spells are a little more likely in this fortnight. Rainfall amounts should be average for the time of year. Temperature amounts should stay close to or below the seasonal norm.


Hmmm,
So, better take your canoe along too?? laugh2

Cheers,
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 31/03/10 06:39 AM

I think all we can honestly say is that we have no idea what the weather will be like in 3 weeks time. Its unlikely there will still be snow in 3 weeks time, but its not impossible.

As the bbc says, its likely to be average scottish spring weather, some rain, some sun some wind and probably more of one than the other at any given moment.. Anything more specific than that and its a guess..

For now I would advocate that we all keep calm and carry on.
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 31/03/10 08:00 AM

Originally Posted By mr_tony


For now I would advocate that we all keep calm and carry on.


well, I'm excited to have a week OFF, and will only have to drive my moggie around
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 31/03/10 02:23 PM

;-) only in relation to potential weather. You are allowed to excited as you like about driving moggies!
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 31/03/10 03:17 PM

Anyone have a set of Morgan wings (new or old Gerwyn wink ) that I can put on my Range Rover?
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 31/03/10 03:40 PM

Originally Posted By Boshly
Anyone have a set of Morgan wings (new or old Gerwyn wink ) that I can put on my Range Rover?


I KILL YOU
(dixit ahmed the dead terrorist)
Posted By: Graham, G4FUJ

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 31/03/10 04:57 PM

Originally Posted By Boshly
Anyone have a set of Morgan wings (new or old Gerwyn wink )


Yes, but...

Originally Posted By Boshly
that I can put on my Range Rover?


they're already on my Land Rover... laugh2

Cheers,
Posted By: GLLHG

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 31/03/10 08:03 PM

Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
Originally Posted By Boshly
Anyone have a set of Morgan wings (new or old Gerwyn wink )


Yes, but...

Originally Posted By Boshly
that I can put on my Range Rover?


they're already on my Land Rover... laugh2

Cheers,



Boshers,
Try John Wozza at Heart of England Morgans:

www.heartofenglandmorgans.co.uk/

Go to 'Online shop, 'badsge Bars and fittings'and then 'cowl badges'

They're the 'real' ones ( ie old pattern) not those Mini imposters!

G

PS I don't know if he does one for the Roadster- which of course would be best of all becuase there is no model demarcation on the badge

Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 31/03/10 08:09 PM

Thanks Gerwyn, and Graham grin2 but looks like Steven will kill me if I do laugh either that or Ahmet the terrorist will hide
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 31/03/10 08:12 PM

Originally Posted By Boshly
Ahmet the terrorist will hide


Terrorist, Where
Posted By: GLLHG

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 31/03/10 08:28 PM

Originally Posted By Boshly
Thanks Gerwyn, and Graham grin2 but looks like Steven will kill me if I do laugh either that or Ahmet the terrorist will hide


I'd do it anyway- what's life without excitement!

G

PS what about plan 'B'- evil wait until Steven is off the ferry and then rob his Roadster badge? You'd probably only get about ten minutes community service getcoat
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 01/04/10 05:27 AM

I have a spare aero8 badge, it will not only look cool but adds 25bhp as well. Yours for a mere 50 quid which at 2quid for each bhp is the cheapest performance mod ever!

;-)

Although at this rate I might fit it to the bmw and adjust the headlights to point inwards and claim its the 2+2 mule from the factory...

Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 01/04/10 06:26 AM

Front wings or rear wings? happy3
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 01/04/10 12:12 PM

Originally Posted By mr_tony
I have a spare aero8 badge, it will not only look cool but adds 25bhp as well. Yours for a mere 50 quid which at 2quid for each bhp is the cheapest performance mod ever!



Got plenty thanks grin2, maybe someone else might want it hide
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 01/04/10 03:04 PM

an extra 25ph,
who doesn't want THAT?????

(meaning: no more news on the supercharger waiting )
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 01/04/10 05:03 PM

And I thought Boshly was going to be helpful and produce something that would be of use on our trip north.

The RRMog Smow plough.

Posted By: GLLHG

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 01/04/10 09:10 PM

Originally Posted By 1560


(meaning: no more news on the supercharger waiting )


I hate to say 'told you so' guys, but right from the start the information was never convincing. Not least that we could never seem to discover what( if anything) had been done to what is a very standard Ford bottom end to deal with the forces of the blower. Another classic case of potential 'customer led development' perhaps? hide

G

PS I know I'm the resident cynic about this and if I am proved wrong, I'm happy to apologise VERY profusely( -ish)
Posted By: GLLHG

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 01/04/10 09:18 PM

Asbo,
Just love those 'real' wings! notworthy

G
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 03/04/10 08:47 AM

yesterday at the Northschleiffe (only 2 laps, too many beginners on the Ring), I wasn't lacking power,
seems like I more and more know how to work the car
(but brake-oil needs replacing woohoo)
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 06/04/10 06:22 AM

Routebooks should be arriving this week everyone smile
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 06/04/10 01:16 PM

Will the roadbook be sent by e-mail or s-mail (read: snail mail)?
If s-mail, I hope to receive it before take-off....

Andy, sunny, 19°C
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 07/04/10 05:42 PM

Road book arrived today.

Andy / Steve would you like me to scan it and email it over. If so PM me your addresses.

Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 07/04/10 08:19 PM

Fantastic route book thumbs

only thing that worries me is the support vehicle, a Fiat scared and a 500 at that, where's my trunk of finerey going to go????

smile
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 08/04/10 06:13 AM

Originally Posted By Boshly
Fantastic route book thumbs

only thing that worries me is the support vehicle, a Fiat scared and a 500 at that, where's my trunk of finerey going to go????

smile


You've got a spare passengers seat, the problem maybe on of will it keep up!!

The routes looks good and so do the hotels thumbs

Well done Rich now if you can sort out the weather as well please. notworthy notworthy
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 08/04/10 06:23 AM

Route book is a quality item and lovely looking mog on the front.... wink
I'm sure it will arrive in time, but will create a pdf version so we have a backup - left mine on the hotel breakfast table on the last tour I did!
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 08/04/10 07:01 AM

Originally Posted By mr_tony
Route book is a quality item and lovely looking mog on the front.... wink
I'm sure it will arrive in time, but will create a pdf version so we have a backup - left mine on the hotel breakfast table on the last tour I did!

Originally Posted By asbojohn
Road book arrived today.

Andy / Steve would you like me to scan it and email it over. If so PM me your addresses.




one "scan" would suit us all
if I don't have mine by monday, I'll let you guys know and ask for a soft-copy
Posted By: Hopwood

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 08/04/10 07:49 AM

Originally Posted By Boshly
Fantastic route book thumbs



Mine arrived this morning, lots of bedtime reading! Maps look great, lots of bicep exercise with a little bit of teeth gritting laugh

Looking forward to meeting up with you all and getting on the road,
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 08/04/10 09:11 AM

Does look like a fantastic trip, and the roads we are covering look pretty amazing (check out the northernmost sections on google maps!).

Think that a jerrycan may be in order though given the sparcity of petrol stations...
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 08/04/10 10:18 AM

Originally Posted By mr_tony

Think that a jerrycan may be in order though given the sparcity of petrol stations...
Would sound very sensible, but where does it go on a trad?

I'll check with one of my guys whose regularly working up in Scotland but I'm sure from some previous trips many moons ago that some of the petrol station will only deal in cash.
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 08/04/10 11:41 AM

The routebook does suggest carrying a minimum £100 in cash.
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 08/04/10 03:03 PM

Rich,

The rates fuels going that only going to fill up the can. Better idea might be a bulk purchase from one of the distilleries. Does anyone know the octane rating on Talisker laugh2
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 08/04/10 04:11 PM

Nice idea - would make us technically biofuelled - so tax exempt too perhaps?

Might keep some cask strength handy as octane booster ;-)
Posted By: Andy

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 08/04/10 08:00 PM

With a litre of fuel at £1.20 in the urban areas (here in Aberdeen) you had better believe its going to be considerably more than that in the highlands. Temperatures ar rising here so fingers crossed you guys get a decent trip.

Andy
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 09/04/10 06:00 AM

got roadbook,
fuel: trads are economical on fuel innocent
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 09/04/10 06:46 AM

I've tried scanning the file and keeping the quality on the maps means it will be over 15mb.

Rich do you think they could provide the file as a PDF?

John
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 09/04/10 08:54 AM

Plus 4 takes 7 l / 100 km. Given the diversity of gallons and miles, I don´t dare to convert ...

15 mb is fine with me.
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 09/04/10 09:02 AM

I'll ask Nick if he has a PDF.
Posted By: Graham, G4FUJ

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 09/04/10 12:18 PM

Originally Posted By 109er
Plus 4 takes 7 l / 100 km. Given the diversity of gallons and miles, I don´t dare to convert ...

15 mb is fine with me.


39.7 mpg - that's good...
Presume it's a Ford engined +4?

I can get up to 38mpg with the T16...

Cheers,
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 10/04/10 08:11 AM

Yes Graham, that is a 2 litre Duratec engine of 2009. It needs about 1 l per 100 km less than the 1800 Toyota-engined Lotus Elise with 139 bhp, although they have roughly the same power and the same weight.
The Duratec engine is quite strictly optimized for efficiency. And still it is torquey at low revs making it very suitable for the Morgan and my preferred style of driving it.
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 11/04/10 07:13 PM

Over 20 degrees in Scotland today better pack sunscreen smile
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 12/04/10 07:04 AM

Farenheit?
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 12/04/10 07:55 AM

laugh Celcius smile

Live webcam on isle of skye - looks sunny smile

http://www.whiteheatherhotel.co.uk/Isle_of_skye_webcam.html

Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 12/04/10 09:05 AM

Looking good and according to the long terms for next week the weather will be settled. happy3

Touch wood
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 12/04/10 03:10 PM

Originally Posted By asbojohn

Touch wood

easier in a trad smile
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 12/04/10 03:22 PM

Do you have really short arms? It's only on the dashtop in an Aero, and door surrounds..
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 12/04/10 03:44 PM

knew that one was comming doh
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 12/04/10 03:45 PM

BY THIS POST I WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW I WILL NOT SERVE UP AS POTHOLE-DETECTOR
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 12/04/10 05:45 PM

Not long to go now, so I need to wash the car and sort out what to pack in the boot for emergencies.

Is the plan still to meet up on the M40 Oxford way?

Boshly are you going to bring along some comms as in parts I don't think the mobile network will be great.
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 12/04/10 06:15 PM

Yup, must try and remember to get them smile

Car all serviced and MOT'd (nearly forgot that one doh ) thanks to Brian and Anne at Miller Motors for getting that done virtually last minute laugh
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 12/04/10 06:40 PM

Ok Guess who forgot to book the Premier inn frown

And guess who has just had to pay £58 for the privelige doh doh

Now if I was a retired man of leisure like our own Hopwood it would have been so different wink
Posted By: Andy

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 12/04/10 07:14 PM

Gents
If it is anything like the weekend just passed you are all going to have great trip. I see you are finishing in Blair Atholl. Don't forget to drop by our very own Scottish Morgan Dealer RPM Morgan in Perth as you head south. RPM are literally 2 mins off the A9 Inveralmond Roundabout. Russell has a great setup there and turns out a decent cup of coffee to match.
1560 if you want some tuning tips for that Roadster you need to take a look at Russells competition +8 He is the 2009 Scottish Classic and Saloon car champion. It would be a shame to come all this way and miss the MMC scottish outpost.

Have fun.
Andy
Posted By: Hopwood

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/04/10 06:14 AM

Originally Posted By asbojohn


Is the plan still to meet up on the M40 Oxford way?


We should be at the Oxford services by 13:00 latest so will be in the coffee shop coffee(not sure what brand) for a rest stop before starting the long haul.

Car all serviced ready to go, except still no central locking! banghead

See y'all soon
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/04/10 06:47 AM

Will be at the services for around 1.30 to meet y'all.

Car is raring to go after a rare run out at the weekend confirmed the tyres have not gone square over the winter.

I have 4 walkie talkies which I shall bring (motorola style ones - range 3-4 km on a good day).



Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/04/10 06:54 AM

USEFUL STUFF TO BRING

1. Battery charger (trickle charger - just in case)

2. old towel (for general cleaning, mopping up spilt cans of drink, as impromptu lumbar support etc etc See HitchHikers Guide to the Galaxy for more uses)

3. Basic tools (wheelnut adaptors, wheel spanner, extension bar, jack, TYRE FOAM, screwdriver (to get into your fusebox) spare fuses (10,20,30,40 AMP)

4. Cleaning materials - windscreen wipes etc

5. FLuids - Spare oil, windscreen wash, coolant.

6. Torch (a bloody big one is usually handy)

7 Blanket, gloves, hat (just in case it gets sub zero and you are stuck in the car)

8. Camera (it's likely to be worth taking some pictures)

9. The number of the factory (you never know).

10. TYRE FOAM (did i say that before - it's very very handy stuff you know)

11. GPS (ok mine is broken and I'm considering using the routebook, but still).

Feel free to add anything else you think I've missed, which I probably have.





Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/04/10 07:12 AM

Add to the list,

Gaffer tape,

The number for RPM

Spare copy of Map Book in case it gets wet. I've have a PDF copy and will print off some spare hard copies.

Bags for rubbish.

Trailer to put it all in. wink

PS Rich where are you going to plug the trickle charger in? Is this you anti theft device taking the battery back to your room with you.
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/04/10 07:39 AM

Won't be trickle charging as a rule, but should anybody have a battery go flat, I'm sure a hotel will have an extension lead which will mean we can get it going again..

Good call on the rubbish bags and gaffer tape smile
Posted By: Plus4

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/04/10 08:24 AM

Originally Posted By mr_tony
Won't be trickle charging as a rule, but should anybody have a battery go flat, I'm sure a hotel will have an extension lead which will mean we can get it going again.


You'll have a long wait trying to get a trickle charger to re-charge a flat battery. Jump leads would be a better option.
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/04/10 08:30 AM

Takes mine a couple of hours. Good point on Jumpleads - something I permanently keep in the Morgan..
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/04/10 05:33 PM

Drive a trad, don´t worry about chargers hide
Posted By: Ray 1550

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 13/04/10 07:05 PM

Additional spares/tools (based on personal experience)

1) Set of allen keys (I am sure the electrical/fuse box has three allen screws)
2) Length of windscreen washer hose from Halfords c/w connector to tie into existing hose under bonnet (replacing the full length will require the removal of one of the wings). If this hose lets go, it will surely be behind the dash!
3) Heavy duty steel cable tie or similar to jury rig an exhaust support.
4) combination spanner set
5) 3/8" 1/4" socket set.
6) radio removal tool (to access behind dash)

This list will cover the known issues (at least the ones I am aware of).

I will be carrying these tools/spares so I am not suggesting you all carry them.

I have fist hand experience of using the above to efect repairs, I am more than willing to pass on the benefit of my knowledge, for a small consideration of course, preferably in liquid form.

Speaking of which, I am hoping we will have time to pay a visit to the Talisker distilery.

I have seen Russel Patterson in action at Knockhill and have met him a couple of times now, I will certainly be calling into RPM on Saturday.

Ray T
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 14/04/10 05:01 AM

Originally Posted By 109er
Drive a trad, don´t worry about chargers hide


I'll bring the starting cables!!!!
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 15/04/10 12:27 PM

Anyone got a private jet in Moscow? Looks like I might be stranded here with the volcanic ash business. Flight planned tomorrow evening so back in uk saturday am - any significant delays and I'll be in trouble...
Posted By: bulldog

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 15/04/10 01:17 PM

Looks like things may start moving sometime friday, but a look at this suggests otherwise...

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/aviation/vaac/data/VAG_1271331761.png
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 15/04/10 04:15 PM

Originally Posted By mr_tony
Anyone got a private jet in Moscow? Looks like I might be stranded here with the volcanic ash business. Flight planned tomorrow evening so back in uk saturday am - any significant delays and I'll be in trouble...


looks tricky frown2
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 15/04/10 05:08 PM

Rich,

Can't provide a jet, but looking at this end the suggestion is that UK airspace will be open tomorrow AM.

Keep us informed in case any of us can help out.

On the bright side though I've been told that the ash cloud will produce some wonderful sunsets so we should be in for some delights in Scotland.
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 15/04/10 05:35 PM

Paris is closing down tonight. At the moment, you might still take a plane to Duesseldorf or Cologne and then hop on the TGV/Eurostar.
Or if you get a flight to anywhere here like Berlin, Hamburg, Hannover or so I could pick you up until sunday morning and give you a ride to Scotland, not via London, however.
Posted By: TalkMorgan

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 15/04/10 05:45 PM

Originally Posted By asbojohn
UK airspace will be open tomorrow AM.


The suggestions is 7:00 tomorrow morning . Fingers crossed for your Rich. smile
Posted By: TalkMorgan

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 15/04/10 06:27 PM

The have now changed this to 1pm

http://tinyurl.com/y5nfoet
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 15/04/10 08:03 PM

Hi Chaps - not looking good right now!

I'm booked on a still uncancelled flight out of Moscow to heathrow tomorrow in the evening. However, i would think it's quite likely thats going to get cancelled.

My only alternative option was a flight to Brussels (which I'm also confirmed on with a Eurostar ticket booked at the other end). However seems like Belgium shut it's airspace today and no guarantees that will bail me out anyway.

This is when I wish I had a fast GT car, 24 hours and a road trip from Moscow to London. Would be a good start to a tour of scotland.

Still when we get there the sunsets should be interesting!
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/04/10 03:49 AM

Belgian Airspace closed till 6pm today (friday),
but possible till 10pm tomorrow

if you need a lift on sunday: be my guest!!!!
I can pick you up tomorrow in Brussels also if you whish
mobile-n° can be found in PM-communication-tread
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/04/10 04:54 AM

Looks like the only large german airport which is still operating this afternoon will be Munich.
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/04/10 05:58 AM

Thanks for offers and info all. Sounds as though I am stuck here for now. Seriously considering buying a car And driving back. Mate stuck in Singapore may hopto Moscow and we will share the driving non stop. Should make a good top gear feature..
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/04/10 06:37 AM

Hi Rich

Sincerely hope you get sorted soon.

If you have to fly straight to Scotland I and I'm sure most if not all others would more than gladly 'shepherd' Liz if she drives the Aero up. She would feel most comfortable as we would keep speeds right down and look out for her.

I am of course making the huge assumption that she will be nervous driving the Aero up to Jockland.

Please also remember I have a spare passenger seat (given up on the hope of the tasty hitch hiker grin2 ) and I can accomodate extra luggage in the well and the seat?

As I said, good luck and if we can help please let us know

Andy
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/04/10 07:27 AM

Originally Posted By 109er
Paris is closing down tonight. At the moment, you might still take a plane to Duesseldorf or Cologne and then hop on the TGV/Eurostar.
Or if you get a flight to anywhere here like Berlin, Hamburg, Hannover or so I could pick you up until sunday morning and give you a ride to Scotland, not via London, however.


Rich, this in conjunction with my suggestion may be your salvation. You may hVe to travel to Scotland with your case on your lap though laugh2
Posted By: Russell

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/04/10 07:55 AM

Good day all,

I see we at RPM are being discussed with regard to your trip to Gods own Country!
I hope the weather stays as it is for you all; bright skys all day with temperatures ranging from 2 to 12 degrees during the day and no Volcanic ash to be seen!

Please remember we are your local dealer for the trip so anything we can help with then we're just a phone call away...hopefully there will be no mechanical issues so but we're here if you need us.

You are all welcome to pop in anytime although Saturday looks best for you as you're passing our door on the way back.
We'll have soft drinks, coffee, crisps and cakes in the showroom for you so please introduce yourselves and we'll extend some famous Scottish hospitality to you all!

Rich, if you can only fly to Scotland and Liz can thumb a lift up here (if she doesn't want to drive)then you would be welcome to borrow one of our Morgans for your trip.
Anything I can do to help then just call or email.

My details:
Russell Paterson Morgan
Bute House
Arran Road
Perth
PH1 3DZ

T: 01738 444004
M: 07979 911 111
Email: russell@rpm-morgan.co.uk

I hope all goes well for you all and look forward to meeting you.

Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/04/10 09:03 AM

Thanks all - especially Russell for the kind offers of help.

Current situation is this...

Richard - stuck in Moscow. No space on tomorrows flights (though waitlisted) and first definite flight I can get is Sunday arriving 11pm.

Liz - stuck in Vienna. Flight status currently unknown.

Current Solution -

Rich flies to Vienna tomorrow morning and we will the plan our route from Vienna to london to arrive on Sunday. Vienna is a lot closer than Moscow at least!

Liz may yet get a flight out of vienna tomorrow (which I will try and piggy back on) or failing that we get a train, ferry and train again, or I get a pan european hire car and drive from Vienna to London.


Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/04/10 09:40 AM

Rich,

How does that song go

Lifestyles of the rich and famous.

Hope you get it sorted.

Typical of the Iceland though, helped ruin the worlds economy now trying to ruin the worlds airlines.
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/04/10 09:43 AM

Rich,

last info at 1300 Paris-time(from Belgian Newspapers): Austria locking down from friday-afternoon,
in Germany: big once closed, Frankfurt disturbed, nothing on Munchen
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/04/10 09:59 AM

Munich and Zurich apparently still working. Czech and Polish airspace are closed.
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/04/10 11:26 AM

As mentioned looks like Austria is now not looking too likely, though I have managed to get a connecting flight to london via vienna tomorrow so if the wind is in my favour then I might just get home tomorrow.

Failing that then it looks very possible Russia will shut airspace west of Moscow tomorrow - in whichcase all best are off and I'm looking for a cheap banger to drive home in.....

Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/04/10 11:33 AM

Originally Posted By mr_tony
Will be at the services for around 1.30 to meet y'all.

Car is raring to go after a rare run out at the weekend confirmed the tyres have not gone square over the winter.

I have 4 walkie talkies which I shall bring (motorola style ones - range 3-4 km on a good day).





I have 5, shall bring them all anyway, I only have three chargers mind you...
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/04/10 12:35 PM

Not a great option but:

If you hop on a train leaving tonight around 23:00 local time at Moskva Belorusskaya to Minsk, change trains in Minsk and Dortmund, you will be here on Sunday morning around 7:00 a.m. frown2

Then shower, breakfast and off to Scotland around noon....
Posted By: uvk33n

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/04/10 12:58 PM

Originally Posted By Russell

Rich, if you can only fly to Scotland and Liz can thumb a lift up here (if she doesn't want to drive)then you would be welcome to borrow one of our Morgans for your trip.
Anything I can do to help then just call or email.


What a fine gesture. You've found out what a freebie is then?
Posted By: Aeroman

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/04/10 01:23 PM

I have just been told by Virgin that UK airspace will be closed for the next 48-hours! If correct that makes things interesting for us too, as we are due to fly to UK on Monday (19th) en famille and one of the grandkids is due back at school on Tuesday. crazy2
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/04/10 01:29 PM

A friend of a friend who works for BA has said it will be well into next week. But then who knows how much is correct and how much is conjecture??

And to echo Ken, fine gesture for Rich Russell, I've a feeling your sandwiches may come in handy laugh
Posted By: Russell

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/04/10 02:49 PM

Well remembered Ken, I like to think I'm never too old to learn something new....don't tell any of my customers though!!
Posted By: Graham, G4FUJ

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/04/10 04:28 PM

Good avatar Russell! thumbs
Posted By: Simon

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/04/10 04:35 PM

Originally Posted By uvk33n
Originally Posted By Russell

Rich, if you can only fly to Scotland and Liz can thumb a lift up here (if she doesn't want to drive)then you would be welcome to borrow one of our Morgans for your trip.
Anything I can do to help then just call or email.


What a fine gesture. You've found out what a freebie is then?


Yes it is. Another example of excellent service from Russell (and above and beyond the call of duty) wine
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/04/10 06:27 PM

Originally Posted By Simon
Originally Posted By uvk33n
Originally Posted By Russell

Rich, if you can only fly to Scotland and Liz can thumb a lift up here (if she doesn't want to drive)then you would be welcome to borrow one of our Morgans for your trip.
Anything I can do to help then just call or email.


What a fine gesture. You've found out what a freebie is then?


Yes it is. Another example of excellent service from Russell (and above and beyond the call of duty) wine


Now why aren't all car dealers like this. Its all part of what makes the Morgan experience special. I can't see your average BMW or Merc dealer making the same offer. notworthy

PS Russell do you have an Aeromax or Supersport I could borrow for an non-defined period of time. hide
Posted By: Andy

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/04/10 07:51 PM

Russell
I saw that happy3. Car's due in for service next week. cheers

Andy

P.S. Was going to bring it in tomorrow, but currently stranded in Stavanger so now will be when I get back to UK. Never realised just how remote Stavanger is until now.
Posted By: Russell

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/04/10 09:15 PM

As it happens I have a few tucked in the corner of one of my sheds...forgot all about them until you reminded me!
Just let me know colour and gearbox type and I'll dust one off for you...no rush for its return of course!!
Posted By: Russell

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 16/04/10 09:22 PM

Hi Andy,

Just ssen your posting, my last one refers to the lending of AeroMaxs and SuperSports!!

Anyway, no problem, I'll see you when I see you.
Safe trip home....eventually!!

Russell
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 17/04/10 04:34 AM

hi folks,
prepping the car:
- picked it up at my detailer; it shines all over the place!!!
- tried some arrangements for luggage
- prepped all the camera/nav-gear
- found out a fuse blow and....keeps blowing (no rear light/no dashboard-light
- fluids/wheels/tires etc. check-ed

just have to get the train tomorrow!!!!

@Rich: if any help can be usefull: text me!!!

@DaveW: hmmm, played with VELCRO and sorting out the fuse made feel a bit "DaveW" (but only a bit!!!!)
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 17/04/10 07:02 AM

Hi All,

No flights to europe from Moscow today, cannot get to Vienna to meet Liz so stuck here for today, and probably until Monday they say (at least).

I'll speak to Nick tomorrow when I hopefully have a clearer picture of when I will be back. You guys go ahead and have a great trip and we will join you as soon as we can.

Rich..
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 17/04/10 07:07 AM

Originally Posted By mr_tony
Hi All,

No flights to europe from Moscow today, cannot get to Vienna to meet Liz so stuck here for today, and probably until Monday they say (at least).

I'll speak to Nick tomorrow when I hopefully have a clearer picture of when I will be back. You guys go ahead and have a great trip and we will join you as soon as we can.

Rich..


sad to hear!!! hope you'll get "up there" sooner than later!!!!
Posted By: Hopwood

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 17/04/10 08:02 AM

Originally Posted By Andy
Never realised just how remote Stavanger is until now.


A fishing museum with the first sardine tin and a steak restaurant down by the harbour serving everything from reindeer to whale. There are certainly more interesting places to be stuck.....Moscow? hope you all get home safely soon.
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 17/04/10 09:53 AM

Originally Posted By mr_tony
Hi All,

No flights to europe from Moscow today, cannot get to Vienna to meet Liz so stuck here for today, and probably until Monday they say (at least).

I'll speak to Nick tomorrow when I hopefully have a clearer picture of when I will be back. You guys go ahead and have a great trip and we will join you as soon as we can.

Rich..


Rich, not sure what we can do. The situation here seems to change constantly. Has Liz any progress in getting back to home?
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 17/04/10 10:08 AM

Nothing anyone can do I think, will just have to sit tight and see what happens...
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 17/04/10 02:30 PM

Latest news is no flights on Sunday so and probably no Monday flights.. investigating trains but at 1800 miles no guarantee I can get back before flights resume...
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 17/04/10 03:23 PM

Rich,

I hope your getting overtime for this spend

Is Liz in a similar position or can she jump on a train.

Some of the things I've seen over here suggest that even if flights do start quickly it may take some time to clear the backlog with planes being in all the wrong places banghead
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 17/04/10 04:52 PM

Latest is that Liz'c company is putting on a coach to get her conference delegation home not sure when they will get back though - monday probably.

For me I'm just booked and rebooked on every possible flight so that when one does go I'll be able to fly.

Currently it looks pretty unlikely that this will be before Tuesday.

As for overtime - I wish!
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 17/04/10 06:19 PM

car is loaded up with everything (exept valuables&electronics)

it shines so hard I might even pack my washing-stuff to keep it so clean sunny

with 3gps-systems and an ipod with maps I hope not to get lost...

as written before: I'll bring starting-cables!!!
if someone else can bring some 20year blondes looking like Bar Rafaeli: be my guest!!!
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 18/04/10 12:06 PM

Ok everyone - have a great time. Still completely stuck in Moscow. Trying ot escape via southern europe as have option on a car to drive from Rome to Paris on Tuesday am, just got to get to Rome, and currently that probably meand flying Via at least Dubai.

Anyway, the upshot is I'm unlikely to be back in the UK before Wednesday at the earliest so there is no hope of me making it to Scotland...

Have a great trip all - and if someone can manage to bring me back a couple of special (18 year plus) Talisker I'll be happy to pay wheat is required. Fingers crossed for good weather and not too much ash!

Posted By: Aeroman

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 18/04/10 03:13 PM

Originally Posted By mr_tony
Ok everyone - have a great time. Still completely stuck in Moscow. Trying ot escape via southern europe as have option on a car to drive from Rome to Paris on Tuesday am, just got to get to Rome, and currently that probably meand flying Via at least Dubai.

Anyway, the upshot is I'm unlikely to be back in the UK before Wednesday at the earliest so there is no hope of me making it to Scotland...

Have a great trip all - and if someone can manage to bring me back a couple of special (18 year plus) Talisker I'll be happy to pay wheat is required. Fingers crossed for good weather and not too much ash!



That's a shame Rich, still it sounds as though you are going to do your own Lap of Europe. drive We have cancelled our own UK trip until everything normalises, now all we need to do is get the grandkids back to school. smile
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 18/04/10 03:51 PM

I'm just hoping that the itallians give us a fiat 500 - been itching to try one!
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 19/04/10 05:39 AM

Well not wishing to rub it in or anything (you're with us in Spirit Rich smile ) but we had a great drive up to Carlisle yesterday.

Myself, Steven (1560), John and Alison (Asbo) and Geoffrey and Diane (Hopwood) met at Oxford services and ambled up in mainly sunshine. A bit of rain as we reached our salubrious Premier Inn Where Ray and Kath (Ray 1550) were waiting for us; but after a reasonable meal (remember where we were) I have just woken up to broken cloud an blue skies. Not sure how long the weather will hold but fingers crossed.

So meeting Andy (109er) after breakfast and then roll on Scotland cheers
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 19/04/10 06:04 AM

Rich, it won't be the same with out you and Liz.

Alison was moaning that she'd have to put up with BtG on her
own wink

Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 19/04/10 10:09 AM

Hi Guys, have a great day! Liz scheduled to make it home later tonight with luck.

I'm on a flight to Rome in a few hours, with a Rome - Paris drive scheduled - so I'll be doing a parallel road trip..

Have a great week all - look forward to the photos...

Cheers...
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 19/04/10 04:50 PM

The TM posse' on the West Coast of Scotland

Posted By: Simon

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 19/04/10 05:35 PM

Lovely wine

...but who brought the VW Polo? somestick
Posted By: Andy

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 19/04/10 07:50 PM

There was a wine festival on as well so it was tough. Made it home last night thanks to the company chartering a supply boat to bring us across.

On my hols now. Snow in Aberdeen this morning
cheers

Andy
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 20/04/10 04:40 PM

That's Steven (1560) new track day sleeper for his next onslaught on the 'Ring laugh2
Posted By: Graham, G4FUJ

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 20/04/10 05:27 PM

Originally Posted By Boshly
That's Steven (1560) new track day sleeper for his next onslaught on the 'Ring laugh2

Ssshhhh...
It's really a Veyron in disguise rofl
Posted By: Simon

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 21/04/10 07:04 AM

Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
Originally Posted By Boshly
That's Steven (1560) new track day sleeper for his next onslaught on the 'Ring laugh2

Ssshhhh...
It's really a Veyron in disguise rofl


A Polo with a Veyron engine... thinking ...now that is a Top Gear stunt waiting to happen wink
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 21/04/10 04:01 PM

Ok Scotland update:

now settled at the Chez Roux Hotel in Loch Inver. Looking forward to dinner tonight love

This was lunch at a gorgeous pub along the West Coast (useless with place names) after a hair raising crossing via some pass or another, single track and snow on the verges but fantastic!



And last night we stayed on the Isle of Skye, very picturesque village with gorgeous view of the bay, again great food etc and great fun with a really great crowd laugh



The roads have been fabulous, Nick has been a great guide and organizer, and I have NEVER driven so fast safely and for so long, but the roads, the lack of traffic, the weather and of course the car have made it so so easy.

I think even Geoffrey (Hopwood) exceeded the speed limit once wink

I think eveeryone is haveing a great time.

Andy

PS Rich I have your Scotch cheers
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 21/04/10 04:21 PM

Hey Andy - looks fabulous - Nick is just the best company and so passionate about driving as you will now no doubt appreciate! I thoroughly reccommend we look into a european jaunt next year - he knows some amazing roads.

Thanks for the scotch, I shall look forward to it. I'm sitting at home with a nice cup of tea (at last) after driving the 1600km between Rome and Paris at an average speed of approx 130kmh. Once I've edited the pics I'll put up an 'alternative' road trip thread smile

Keep enjoying yourselves, and I look forward to another update at the weekend - enjouy your dinner! smile
Posted By: PJH

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 21/04/10 05:24 PM

sounds like a lot of fun. how many miles are you going to cover on this trip?
Posted By: Simon

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 21/04/10 06:13 PM

Sounds superb but then I never doubted it would be. wine
Posted By: Frank 4x4

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 21/04/10 06:33 PM

Originally Posted By Boshly

The roads have been fabulous, the lack of traffic, the weather and of course the car have made it so so easy.I think eveeryone is haveing a great time.Andy


It sounds Great. I just love the West Coast having worked in Campbeltown (Mull of Kintyre) on a weekly commute. 2hr 10min Glasgow Airport to Campbeltown was our best journey thanks to low traffic. A fabulous part of the world. Envy you guys. love
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 22/04/10 05:13 PM

Hi PJ, not sure how many miles to be honest, probably 1500-2000 Inc getting there and back.

Today's (iPhone) photos:





We had another great run, the best in the morning from Loch Inver to Thurso on a mix of regular and single track roads. The most incredible mix of terrain, views, tracks and roads. We only met 71 cars (I counted them!) in 120 miles woohoo

lots of beautiful sweeping single and double tracks that you can see for about half a mile. Great speeds achieved safely and well within the car and the drivers capabilities.

We saw the Orkney Islands, some SBS training manouevres (they didn't like us watching smile ) birds of prey, fantastic deserted bays, royal blue clear waters and a female Scottish farmer yelling at Steven (1560) for doing doughnuts in a carpark laugh2 I couldn't identify too much of what she said but I think she thought he was a 'banker' of sorts laugh

On top of it all the sun shone most of the day laugh

Safely ensconced in tonights hotel which will have to go some to match Alberts (Roux) feast last night.
Posted By: DaveW

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 22/04/10 05:21 PM

Considering how dodgy the weather was up until a couple of weeks ago, I think you lot have really fallen on your feet with this tour. It looks great. sunny
Posted By: PJH

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 22/04/10 05:43 PM

wait a minute, is 0004ERO your car? If so, I met you at spa wink

Please tell steven to behave so that we're still welcome there, because judging from your photo's, it looks like a great location to do a cool aeromax photoshoot (hint hint).

Hope you lot have alot of fun and keep it safe smile
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 22/04/10 08:53 PM

Originally Posted By PJH
wait a minute, is 0004ERO your car? If so, I met you at spa wink

Please tell steven to behave so that we're still welcome there, because judging from your photo's, it looks like a great location to do a cool aeromax photoshoot (hint hint).

Hope you lot have alot of fun and keep it safe smile


Hi PJ

of course I know who you are and rememeber you from Spa smile

Steven will be on best behaviour to ensure you can do a return trip with the 'Max cheers
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 23/04/10 05:52 AM

Looks fabulous, gutted to have missed it. Look forward to more pics at. the weekend
Posted By: uvk33n

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 23/04/10 07:46 AM

Originally Posted By Boshly

We only met 71 cars (I counted them!) in 120 miles woohoo

Boshly! Is this a typo? 71 cars seems rather a lot. The last time I was up there I barely saw any.
Posted By: Graham, G4FUJ

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 23/04/10 08:29 AM

One every 3/4 mile - sounds pretty crowded now Ken (unless they were all stuck behind a shed dragger laugh2 ).

Cheers,
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 23/04/10 03:13 PM

So much to tell
It was fabulous
Nuerburgring will be boring after this trip
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 23/04/10 03:25 PM

Originally Posted By Graham, G4FUJ
One every 3/4 mile - sounds pretty crowded now Ken (unless they were all stuck behind a shed dragger laugh2 ).

Cheers,


Maths not a strong point Graham laugh2 I make that one every 1.7 miles and even then the last 15 were all in the last couple of miles before the 40mph limit into Thurso, around the Dounrey (sp?) Nuclear Power Station. Which equates to about 1 every two miles.

Believe you me that is sparse.

But hey, maybe they were out in force to welcome us grin2
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 23/04/10 04:11 PM

Its been a brilliant trip with probably some of the best roads Ive driven.

Looking forward to LoS 2011

Lots of pics to post over the weekend which I'm sure will swell the 2011 numbers
Posted By: Easter

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 23/04/10 06:09 PM

looking forward to the pics, you were blessed with great weather, brought back memories of my LOS in '85 in a ...Metro, though no substitute for being there, fortunately I've not long been back from a French sortie [in a MOG]
Posted By: Graham, G4FUJ

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 23/04/10 07:17 PM

Originally Posted By Boshly

Maths not a strong point Graham laugh2 I make that one every 1.7 miles and even then the last 15 were all in the last couple of miles before the 40mph limit into Thurso, around the Dounrey (sp?) Nuclear Power Station. Which equates to about 1 every two miles.

Believe you me that is sparse.
But hey, maybe they were out in force to welcome us grin2


Arithmetic not mine today either rofl
Its been a difficult day...

Anyway, there's at least one trad on the tour (yeah, OK, Tink should have been there too), but all I see in piccies is Aeros (and that Veyron Q-car laugh2)...

Cheers,
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 23/04/10 09:20 PM

smile

Two trads and four Aeros and one Veyron Q car laugh

Trouble is Andy kept veering off on jaunts to various distilleries and single track roads (he has 'done' Scotland previously and had a few specific wants) and the only photos I can post whilst mobile are those taken on the iPhone and I only took a few specifically to post.

There will be many many good photos to come, and not all Aero's.

I must say also how impressed I was with both Stevens Roadster and Andy's plus 4 during some great fast driving on all sorts of roads. They were certainly impressive to watch in action. And stevens roadster with the black hardtop looked awesome from behind!
Posted By: Young-one

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 24/04/10 05:22 AM

sounds like you guys had a great time - little bit jealous :P
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 24/04/10 06:15 AM

well, we are having breakfast and afterwards will visit Russell in Perth, also sort out Ray's flat front tire frown
he had an epic drive yesterday and Cath did some climbing blush

after discussing the past days we can only conclude: WE WILL BE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the drive on thursdaymorning is certainly the best on earth,
flowing, allowing great speeds and decent surface/bariers/no sheep only a Fangio driven Fiat in our way
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 24/04/10 04:49 PM

Originally Posted By 1560
well
after discussing the past days we can only conclude: WE WILL BE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I certainly will until the pictures and video arrive here's a teaser.

Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 24/04/10 06:38 PM

I proceeded slowly but on some terrific roads
Scottish Borders
North lake district
Arrivee at Kendal

Tomorrow Yorkshire Dales
Peak District
Boring but swift Mways homewards

Once again emjoying UK's Finest uk drive
Posted By: Ray 1550

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 24/04/10 08:39 PM

Two new tyres fitted thanks to Russel Paterson's help. Good drive down the A68, rather more briskly than yesterdays run!

Just arrived back from A&E, Kath has chipped a bone in her foot and torn a few ligaments.

Wont stop her participating in the Normog run through the dales tomorrow!

Thanks to Asbo and Boshly for portable pump and tyre sealer, I owe you both.

Ray 1550
Posted By: PJH

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 25/04/10 01:07 AM

Originally Posted By asbojohn
Originally Posted By 1560
well
after discussing the past days we can only conclude: WE WILL BE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I certainly will until the pictures and video arrive here's a teaser.




Must.....resist.....temptation....
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 25/04/10 06:57 AM

Originally Posted By Ray 1550
Two new tyres fitted thanks to Russel Paterson's help. Good drive down the A68, rather more briskly than yesterdays run!

Just arrived back from A&E, Kath has chipped a bone in her foot and torn a few ligaments.

Wont stop her participating in the Normog run through the dales tomorrow!

Thanks to Asbo and Boshly for portable pump and tyre sealer, I owe you both.

Ray 1550


Poor Kath frown please send her our best. She 'hid' the pain well bless her, must have been agony.

I believe it was Asbos tyre foam (and pump) so you certainly owe me nothing, nor would you have done even if it had been mine laugh

Great to see you and love to Kath. Have a good run out today.
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 25/04/10 07:17 AM

Must just add a quick note to say thanks to all at RPM especially of course Russell and his lovely wife (really sorry I can't remember her name - old age is catching up with me oldgit ).

We were given a great welcome, hot coffee and delicious cake love but far more importantly had a great tour around his businesses (Morgan/Piloti agency/window tinting/protective coating and Brian, he may even do you a deal on another Bremont now he knows the meaning of freebie laugh2 ).

A great and large selection of cars including the black plus 8 currently used for racing and RP's own moss box Plus 8 in the early stages of rebuild. A sneak preview on RPM's latest upgrade for the 4 Sport, an induction kit that let's the car breath more freely between 2000 and 3500 rpm. Brian, another reason for a visit!

Lastly, as an indication of the overall impression we got of the (large clean tidy welcoming and interestingly adorned) premises and of all the people we met can neatly be summed up by my conversation with Asbo and backed up by Ray1550: Why oh why can't there be a dealer like this down south??? I really was gobsmacked and can now understand all the positive comments that have previously been posted.

I appreciate the above sounds like a sales pitch but I have absolutely no connection (other than a surprising old friend in common smile ) and just feel that good service enthusiasm needs promoting. We are all too quick to shout about negativity generally.

Lastly, the plan for next year, if can be organised is to try and combine a Scotland trip with race day that RP is participating in. Russells words were "if I haven't bent the car I may well join you" grin2
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 25/04/10 08:10 AM

Originally Posted By Ray 1550
Two new tyres fitted thanks to Russel Paterson's help. Good drive down the A68, rather more briskly than yesterdays run!

Just arrived back from A&E, Kath has chipped a bone in her foot and torn a few ligaments.

Wont stop her participating in the Normog run through the dales tomorrow!

Thanks to Asbo and Boshly for portable pump and tyre sealer, I owe you both.

Ray 1550



Ray I hope that Kath makes a quick recovery and I'm glad that despite the mishaps she's up for jumping in the car again. thumbs

Remember what happens on tour stays on tour and I won't tell how she did it. wink
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 25/04/10 08:23 AM

Originally Posted By Boshly

Lastly, as an indication of the overall impression we got of the (large clean tidy welcoming and interestingly adorned) premises and of all the people we met can neatly be summed up by my conversation with Asbo and backed up by Ray1550: Why oh why can't there be a dealer like this down south??? I really was gobsmacked and can now understand all the positive comments that have previously been posted.

I appreciate the above sounds like a sales pitch


Boshly I would whole heartedly agree, I was expecting a shed tucked at the back of an industrial estate and it certainly wasn't the case. Given Russell's offer of help to Mr_Tony and the assistance he provided Ray he certainly seems to be prepared to go the extra mile. notworthy

Elspeth (Russell's wife) was the ultimate host, and didn't mock me to much when I couldn't get the coffee machine to function. oops However the Alison and the others more than made up for it.
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 25/04/10 08:27 AM

Rich

Tallsikers ready and waiting what would you like me to do with it?

In Weybridge area during day and Farnham weekends and evenings. Can drive and meet you if required? Will however of course regale you rotten with stories of swooping open roads grin2
Posted By: Simon

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 25/04/10 10:35 AM

Sounds like a brilliant trip and it is great to hear such positive comments about RPM. In dealing with Russell on the Defendal side, I was extremely impressed. When talking to him I found his business ethos to be in line with my expectations of how a customer/business relationship should be; therefore, it is good to hear that you all had such a positive experience.

wine
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 25/04/10 10:56 AM

Hope all are home safe (or making good progress!) look forward to more pictures and more stories. Glad you had a great trip and very sad to have missed out courtesy of the volcano. Still such is life, and roll on next year.

Boshly - I'll drop you a line and zoon out to Farnham one evening this week in the Aero (it's due a run!) and will look forward to the stories!

Posted By: TalkMorgan

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 25/04/10 11:24 AM

Originally Posted By mr_tony
Boshly - I'll drop you a line and zoon out to Farnham one evening this week in the Aero (it's due a run!) and will look forward to the stories!


Depending on the evening, and my schedule, if you guys fancy meeting up for a coffee, I'd be happy to tag along and hear the stories (may save BtG telling them twice)
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 25/04/10 11:27 AM

Originally Posted By mr_tony
Hope all are home safe (or making good progress!) look forward to more pictures and more stories. Glad you had a great trip and very sad to have missed out courtesy of the volcano. Still such is life, and roll on next year.

Boshly - I'll drop you a line and zoon out to Farnham one evening this week in the Aero (it's due a run!) and will look forward to the stories!



Great! It will be good to see you, bring Liz along and you can both hear what you missed laugh

By the way, it was unanimously agreed that the bottles are a gift from all of us on the trip to you by way of small recompense for missing out on a great trip, especially in view of the fact that you helped organise it cheers

And lastly it would ne remiss of me not to mention how fantastic Nick Smith (of Dettaglio) was all trip. Great organisation and attention to detail (down to advice on the condition of the roads where sand had been used instead of grit scared and warnings of dangers/scameras/hazards/roadworks etc) and on top of all that a great bloke.

He is also a top driver. My scathing jokey comments on his Abarth were well and truly stuffed down my throat. Whilst driving skills undoubtedley count highly (and I am extremely bereft of such skills) it took virtually 9/10ths driving from me to put any distance between my 365bhp 1150kg Aero and his 133bhp 1000kg (guessing?) Fiat 500 Abarth in the dry. I gave up in the wet. In the words of Eric Sturdza whilst whilst driving me around La Luc circuit in his Aeromax having been overtaken easily by Jacques Laffite Ina Clio cup car "I can keep up with him.......... But we will both die!" laugh2

I thorougjly recommend using Dettaglio for future trips and will undoubtedley do so myself I the future.
Posted By: Aeroman

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 25/04/10 12:07 PM

Originally Posted By Boshly
We were given a great welcome, hot coffee and delicious cake love but far more importantly had a great tour around his businesses (Morgan/Piloti agency/window tinting/protective coating and Brian, he may even do you a deal on another Bremont now he knows the meaning of freebie laugh2 ).


Having just bought another watch, not in the market for a Bremont just now - spending time in Duty Free due to delayed flights is not a good idea! blush

However, I am open to an offer on DefendAll for the Aero - it could be his Berkshire demonstrator for the product. woohoo Can you use your new found influence north of the border and get me a Scottish freebie (is that an oxymoron?) wink

Brian

P.S. Sorry to miss the LoS trip, it seems you all had a super time. frown2 Next time InšāʾAllāh!

Posted By: Graham, G4FUJ

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 26/04/10 07:48 AM

Originally Posted By Boshly
Must just add a quick note to say thanks to all at RPM especially of course Russell and his lovely wife (really sorry I can't remember her name - old age is catching up with me oldgit ).

We were given a great welcome, hot coffee and delicious cake love but far more importantly had a great tour around his businesses (Morgan/Piloti agency/window tinting/protective coating and Brian, he may even do you a deal on another Bremont now he knows the meaning of freebie laugh2 ).

A great and large selection of cars including the black plus 8 currently used for racing and RP's own moss box Plus 8 in the early stages of rebuild.

Lastly, as an indication of the overall impression we got of the (large clean tidy welcoming and interestingly adorned) premises and of all the people we met can neatly be summed up by my conversation with Asbo and backed up by Ray1550: Why oh why can't there be a dealer like this down south??? I really was gobsmacked and can now understand all the positive comments that have previously been posted.

I appreciate the above sounds like a sales pitch but I have absolutely no connection (other than a surprising old friend in common smile ) and just feel that good service enthusiasm needs promoting. We are all too quick to shout about negativity generally.

Lastly, the plan for next year, if can be organised is to try and combine a Scotland trip with race day that RP is participating in. Russells words were "if I haven't bent the car I may well join you" grin2


Sounds like a grand trip. Shame to miss it. I shall atttempt to juggle finances better for next year...

So, in view of a post elsewhere, should I eventually replace the Z with bacon, I should perhaps visit Russell due to the number of such items he takes in p/ex for Aeros? smile

Cheers,
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 26/04/10 08:10 AM

got home safe yesterday,
had a blast on saturday/sunday,
got stuck in TVR-jam on saturday (snake pass, Pikes district)
and in Belgium in a Porsche-jam on sunday-evening,

everyone: thanks for the warm welcome!!!!!
I enjoyed it fully!!!

(got a lot of work; plz patience for pic/vid/...)
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 26/04/10 06:58 PM

Back home earlier today - what a tour!
Thanks to everyone for the warm welcome to the crowd and the pleasant company during the week. Thanks also to Nick who organized an outstanding tour and was the most friendly tour guide you could think of.
Most has already been said, have a look at the photos, and sign in for 2011!
Andy
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 27/04/10 04:08 AM

first video is uploaded
http://www.talkmorgan.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/43670/Re_My_vids#Post43670
Posted By: JBu1

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 27/04/10 05:45 AM

Just watched it - fantastic !
Thank you,

John
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 27/04/10 06:17 AM

I still can't understand why none of my local roads are like this gloomy

We were spotted on a pistonheads thread near Ullapool. I told them how luck they are to be blessed with such roads locally.
Posted By: GLLHG

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 27/04/10 12:22 PM

God, and I've just spent three weeks working my danglies off in Malta with the high spots provided only by endless CNN bulletins about volcanic ash!

I'm obviously making the wrong lfe/work balance choices here.

Seriously guys, sounds like an excellent trip envy envy
Will you be accepting slow 4/4s on next years event?

Cheers,
G
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 27/04/10 12:30 PM

stop at Russels,
your 4/4s will be rather fast afterwards laugh
Posted By: GLLHG

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 27/04/10 02:46 PM

I put it on the dyno before I went away and was getting high end of 140s BHP. It's not the car that's slow- it's the driver!!

G oldgit
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 27/04/10 02:59 PM

Originally Posted By GLLHG
I put it on the dyno before I went away and was getting high end of 140s BHP. It's not the car that's slow- it's the driver!!

G oldgit

my dad might come along (in a volkswagen carrera4)
he's not that fast anymore (I hope....)
you could team up cheers
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 27/04/10 03:01 PM

I think you might have the wrong impression of our driving.

The joint description we agreed upon was 'spirited' and not speedy.

109er did have a book of alternate routes which seemed to be short / quicker. So maybe the next LOS could involve a mixtures of routes.

Should add though that I discovered that 109er works in a patent office so I suspect he had added some patented wings to his car flyingpig
Posted By: mr_tony

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 27/04/10 03:08 PM

From doing a lot of trips with Nick in the past in Europe, I've learned that you should always stick to his route - otherwise you risk missing out on some of the most amazing roads.

Look forward to next year, and I'd also thoroughly reccommend we get Nick to look at a European jaunt, as some of the roads he knows in Germany and Spain are simply jaw dropping..
Posted By: Graham, G4FUJ

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 27/04/10 04:17 PM

Originally Posted By GLLHG
I put it on the dyno before I went away and was getting high end of 140s BHP. It's not the car that's slow- it's the driver!!

G oldgit

Shouldn't worry about it - you might have to put up with a mighty 90bhp of Ford X-flow 4/4 - however this morning's tussle with an Audi A4 estate around Chippenham proves the old girl still has it in her laugh2
And the driver occasionally takes no prisoners viking
Cheers,
Posted By: DaveW

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 27/04/10 06:49 PM

Welcome back Gerwyn - I was getting worried.

If I could persuade MrsW that it wasn't just day after day of high speed car stuff, I could probably make next year if it's away from April 10th..........
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 27/04/10 06:58 PM

vids from LoS2010

for better/bigger image: watch on youtube






Posted By: GLLHG

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 27/04/10 07:41 PM

Thanks Dave,
Good to be back. I mamaged to fit in a hillclimb while I was away ( spectating) Quite interesting range of cars- everything fom the usual sort of stuff eg Porsches, couple of Ferraris but also some really well preserved older stuff including an MGA Twin Cam.
To be honest, I was glad it wasn't my car- the road surfaces were typically diabolical!

When I come back in a future life, I'm going to be a suspension manufacturer based in Malta- gotta be a winner

Cheers,
G
Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread so I'll stop now
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 29/04/10 11:17 AM

my pictures:
on flick'r
Posted By: A11OGE

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 29/04/10 11:36 AM

Graham - I know what mean. Saw of some sort of Audi last night on the way home from Liphook. innocent
Posted By: Hopwood

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 02/05/10 11:21 AM

Have now returned from extended LoS down thru Northumberland and Yorkshire, total 2450m. I can only endorse all the positive comments everyone has already made - it really was a really great trip organised by Dettaglio.

Just a few highlights to add........
Loch Crinan fish stew at Crinan Hotel
Catching up with the little +4,(D994 xxx) fully laden, on its way to Fort William
meeting a tin can driver who said " did you pass us on the M6 three days ago?"
Cask strength malt at Taliskers
the small herd of red deer at Inver Lodge
the cake shop in Thurso?????????????
The final meet at RPM's and then on Sunday, going to Holy Island and meeting Andy 109er just leaving on his way to Newcastle - he couldn't stop for a visit as the tides times were against him.

Thanks,best wishes and speedy recoveries to all our fellow travellers, cheers to spirited driving cheers
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 02/05/10 11:41 AM

Hopwood: good you enjoyed your home-going trip!!!

another video: sunday, meeting some TVR's in PeakDistrict
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlEJaVIXySM[/youtube]
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 02/05/10 03:32 PM

Steven,

Would have loved to have heard the comments as you overtook them.

Similar to the a certain hill farmers I suspect. laugh2
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 02/05/10 05:34 PM

Originally Posted By asbojohn
Steven,

Would have loved to have heard the comments as you overtook them.

Similar to the a certain hill farmers I suspect. laugh2

viking
think they have a "no passing between participants"-rule
can understand without factory being able to supply "parts" anymore
Posted By: Graham, G4FUJ

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 02/05/10 05:42 PM

Originally Posted By Hopwood
Catching up with the little +4,(D994 xxx) fully laden, on its way to Fort William
cheers

Peter mentioned you 'caught him up' in a missive on another forum grin2

Cheers,
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 25/06/10 03:50 PM

hi Guys,

who got a speeding-ticket from this trip,
I didn't (should blush )
but somehow I think Hopwood got one camera
or not???????
Posted By: Frank 4x4

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 25/06/10 04:27 PM

Originally Posted By asbojohn
Steven,
Would have loved to have heard the comments as you overtook them.
Similar to the a certain hill farmers I suspect. laugh2


Sorry to swing the thread but the comment reminded me of the Kintyre Hill Farmer who came into our Campbeltown factory to tell the Manager in no uncertain and aggressive terms to give a message to a company visitor about his traveling down the only road from Carradale at 8am. swear

"Tell him from me to keep off my B****y road. I travel doon there every day at 8am and I wont have HIM getting in my way!" drive
Posted By: Hopwood

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 26/06/10 07:44 AM

Originally Posted By 1560
hi Guys,

but somehow I think Hopwood got one camera
or not???????


Nope (well not yet anyway), just lucky I guess! Anyway, it wasn't speeding - just spirited! Interestingly, having just spent the w/end at Buxton, it is totally impossible to tour Derbyshire in the same manner as the LoS drive
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 26/06/10 09:32 AM

Originally Posted By Hopwood
Originally Posted By 1560
hi Guys,

but somehow I think Hopwood got one camera
or not???????


Nope (well not yet anyway), just lucky I guess! Anyway, it wasn't speeding - just spirited! Interestingly, having just spent the w/end at Buxton, it is totally impossible to tour Derbyshire in the same manner as the LoS drive


I would suggest it's probably impossible to tour anywhere in the same manner as the LOS must be few and far between to have the roads without the usage or scameras
Posted By: v12v8

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 05/07/10 05:50 PM

Hi chaps. Hope everyone is well. Just to let you know that I've added a few images to the LOS flickr page. Regards, N
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 14/12/11 03:26 PM

Hi guys,

are there any plans for 2012? I might be tempted to go there again...

Andy
Posted By: Boshly

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 14/12/11 06:19 PM

Hi Andy

Hope you are well!

Aeroman keeps harping on about the L.o.Wales so that's more a possibility than Scotland.

I'll start a new thread and just see if anyone's interested.

Cheers

Andy
Posted By: 109er

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 15/12/11 06:09 AM

Hi Andy,
I´m fine, thank you. Hope to see you in Wales then. I´ll watch the thread.

Andy
Posted By: Moss

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 03/05/12 08:23 AM

This was a brilliant post.
Posted By: Dean-Royal

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 18/07/12 04:59 PM

Originally Posted By Boshly
smile

Two trads and four Aeros and one Veyron Q car laugh

Trouble is Andy kept veering off on jaunts to various distilleries and single track roads (he has 'done' Scotland previously and had a few specific wants) and the only photos I can post whilst mobile are those taken on the iPhone and I only took a few specifically to post.

There will be many many good photos to come, and not all Aero's.

I must say also how impressed I was with both Stevens Roadster and Andy's plus 4 during some great fast driving on all sorts of roads. They were certainly impressive to watch in action. And stevens roadster with the black hardtop looked awesome from behind!


Looking for something else, i stumbled across this old thread, app 44 pages from start to finish !!!!!!!!! that took some sorting, who would do it again waiting
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 18/07/12 06:01 PM

the roadtrip: me, anytime!!!!
just the part Thurso=>Edinborough could be a bit more amusing
though we had the most warm welcome at RPM thumbs
Posted By: asbojohn

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 18/07/12 07:41 PM

Okay after saying I'd look at Lap of Somewhere 2013 here we go



Lap of Somewhere 2013
Posted By: Wirewheel

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 28/07/12 05:48 PM

Just to give this prominence. This posting gives good background to the setup for the Lap of Scotland, and from what I can gather the proposed organisation for the Lap of Wales 2013. I hope it helps.
Posted By: dogmanjack

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 09/09/12 06:16 PM

If going to Wales, you must work in the Devil's Staircase and preceding valley. Nice valley. Scary hill.
Posted By: Dean-Royal

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 22/05/13 06:09 PM

It won't be a lap of Scotland, but we will be in Edinburgh with the Max this Friday eve and Saturday, if anyone is around.

any ideas of sites to visit more than welcome, please don't suggest the Zoo, and we have already done the Royal Yacht.
Posted By: uvk33n

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 22/05/13 07:07 PM

You could go and see The Falkirk Wheel but it's about 28 miles west of Edinburgh.
Posted By: Dean-Royal

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 23/05/13 02:47 AM

I am currently working on a project in Falkirk in the hope of placing an outlet there, so yes a little history lesson should go down well, what a fantastic piece of Engineering.
Posted By: Graham, G4FUJ

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 23/05/13 05:59 AM

That's one of our visiting points later in June. With a lot of us being interested in all sorts of engineering it seemed a good idea smile Followed by the first of potentially several distilleries over the next few days... wine (hmmm, closest I can get to :drink: smile ).
Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 20/09/15 05:12 PM

re-did the tour, slightly different route

starting I got into troubles at work (important pc failed) and missed the boat,
so went to Calais and after relaxing in the Chunnel...I could drive up to Carlisle
where I met PJH (whom will provide decent pictures later on)
being a piston head innocent
I choose to drive...of course...over the Snake Road (at night) and the KirkstonePass (in the morning)

scottsRING
skye
applecross
durness/tongue
lairg=>cairngorms
kielder forest
boat

a few pictures:



Posted By: 1560

Re: The Lap of Scotland - 2010 - 20/09/15 05:14 PM

o, the car is for sale, LHD!!!
GT4 ordered for delivery after winter
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