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#554718 - Today at 01:42 PM Re: What does a "No Deal Brexit" look like? [Re: Hamwich]
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Originally Posted By Hamwich
Originally Posted By Gambalunga
What deal do you want?


I suspect there are still a fair few Leavers out there who think the EU is going to fold at the last minute and give the UK a deal that gives us all the benefits of EU membership but without any of the obligations.

Even if we were to get such an arrangement (along with our first deliveries of unicorns) I can't possibly see how we're going to be able to replicate (or indeed improve on as the Brexiteers have promised) all of the 700-odd individual trade arrangements and deals that the EU have with other countries and which we are no longer going to be able to benefit from.

I am sure the majority of people who glibly speak about trading on WTO terms have never bothered to look too closely at the WTO tariff rates - or indeed thought about how we are going to get our proposed schedule past all the WTO members like Moldova and Russia who seem very keen to veto it.

Still, I'm sure it'll work out in the end. Long after we're dead probably.


Of course the EU does not need our market. According to German industrial representatives this week a no-deal exit would be catastrophic for them. This is why a no-deal exit must be kept on the table. Reading the debate by MPs on the petition for no-deal (300,000 signatures) brought up some really enlightening aspects to various scenarios.
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#554722 - Today at 01:47 PM Re: What does a "No Deal Brexit" look like? [Re: rainbowj]
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Originally Posted By rainbowj
Originally Posted By Hamwich
Originally Posted By Gambalunga
What deal do you want?


I suspect there are still a fair few Leavers out there who think the EU is going to fold at the last minute and give the UK a deal that gives us all the benefits of EU membership but without any of the obligations.

Even if we were to get such an arrangement (along with our first deliveries of unicorns) I can't possibly see how we're going to be able to replicate (or indeed improve on as the Brexiteers have promised) all of the 700-odd individual trade arrangements and deals that the EU have with other countries and which we are no longer going to be able to benefit from.

I am sure the majority of people who glibly speak about trading on WTO terms have never bothered to look too closely at the WTO tariff rates - or indeed thought about how we are going to get our proposed schedule past all the WTO members like Moldova and Russia who seem very keen to veto it.

Still, I'm sure it'll work out in the end. Long after we're dead probably.


Of course the EU does not need our market. According to German industrial representatives this week a no-deal exit would be catastrophic for them. This is why a no-deal exit must be kept on the table. Reading the debate by MPs on the petition for no-deal (300,000 signatures) brought up some really enlightening aspects to various scenarios.

I repeat: What deal do you want?
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#554745 - Today at 03:39 PM Re: What does a "No Deal Brexit" look like? [Re: Moggo]
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From No1 daughter today .. She is as cynical of this lot as I am..

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#554748 - Today at 03:44 PM Re: What does a "No Deal Brexit" look like? [Re: Moggo]
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#554750 - Today at 03:44 PM Re: What does a "No Deal Brexit" look like? [Re: Gambalunga]
rainbowj Offline

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Originally Posted By Gambalunga
Originally Posted By rainbowj
Originally Posted By Hamwich
Originally Posted By Gambalunga
What deal do you want?


I suspect there are still a fair few Leavers out there who think the EU is going to fold at the last minute and give the UK a deal that gives us all the benefits of EU membership but without any of the obligations.

Even if we were to get such an arrangement (along with our first deliveries of unicorns) I can't possibly see how we're going to be able to replicate (or indeed improve on as the Brexiteers have promised) all of the 700-odd individual trade arrangements and deals that the EU have with other countries and which we are no longer going to be able to benefit from.

I am sure the majority of people who glibly speak about trading on WTO terms have never bothered to look too closely at the WTO tariff rates - or indeed thought about how we are going to get our proposed schedule past all the WTO members like Moldova and Russia who seem very keen to veto it.

Still, I'm sure it'll work out in the end. Long after we're dead probably.


Of course the EU does not need our market. According to German industrial representatives this week a no-deal exit would be catastrophic for them. This is why a no-deal exit must be kept on the table. Reading the debate by MPs on the petition for no-deal (300,000 signatures) brought up some really enlightening aspects to various scenarios.

I repeat: What deal do you want?


Adeal with no entrapment in the so called backstop for a start.
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