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#553880 - 14/01/19 11:55 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: nick w]
Heinz Offline

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Registered: 07/09/09
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What about the Dunlop Sport Classic which is available in the Avon size. But I have heard that most other 175 tyres are wider than the Avons which could be an issue with the 4/4.

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#554200 - 16/01/19 10:15 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: nick w]
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I would like if possible to remain using the tyre size 175/70/R15 as per the CR6ZZ Avon. However I can not find more than 2 manufacturers Avon & Vredestein. (Could not find the Dunlops) Anyone got more info or should I revert to original sizing 165/80/R15 which I changed from when the continentals let go on a round about at 25 mph in the wet causing 10500 quid damage. Funny braking in traffic with the continentals fitted often caused slight rear lock up. That has never happened wet or dry since the CR6ZZ were fitted.
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#554207 - 16/01/19 10:49 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: nick w]
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IcePack, you are unfortunately right, the Dunlop Sport Classic is not available in the size 175/70/15.
I would like to tell you something from my own experience. The tyre size 165/80/15 is better than you think, if you only know the Conti.
The Conti is so incredibly bad that it would be just as scary in 175/70/15.

Give a good 165/80/15 a try and you will be amazed. For example I drive Vredestein TTrac2. This is really very good and fits very well to the car. The difference between Conti and TTrac2 is really like night and day. Of course there are also other tyres.

But if you consider that 4 TTrac2 cost about 220 GBP and 4 Avon CR6ZZ cost, I don't know exactly about 2000 GBP I estimate, then I would give the TTrac2 a chance. You won't lose any money if you only drive it one summer, if you don't like it just change back but you won‘t be disappointed.

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#554352 - 17/01/19 04:55 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: IcePack]
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Originally Posted By IcePack
I would like if possible to remain using the tyre size 175/70/R15 as per the CR6ZZ Avon. However I can not find more than 2 manufacturers Avon & Vredestein. (Could not find the Dunlops) Anyone got more info or should I revert to original sizing 165/80/R15 which I changed from when the continentals let go on a round about at 25 mph in the wet causing 10500 quid damage. Funny braking in traffic with the continentals fitted often caused slight rear lock up. That has never happened wet or dry since the CR6ZZ were fitted.


I think you have answered your own question, stick with the Avons. 4 new tyres for 1k no brainer if you want to drive spiritedly and stay alive. No Auto-land on a Morgan ooo
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#554392 - 17/01/19 07:48 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: Heinz]
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Originally Posted By Heinz

I would like to tell you something from my own experience. The tyre size 165/80/15 is better than you think


Definitely. My car has 165bhp and is absolutely fine on 165 section tyres. It's all very well thinking that one must have as wide a tyre as possible for ultimate grip, but one pays a very heavy price in steering feel and agility.

Sure, the Roadsters and Plus 8s, with their 200+bhp need wider rubber to get their power down, but not the smaller stuff.
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#554398 - 17/01/19 08:04 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: nick w]
Heinz Offline

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One of the best cars ever in curves was and is the 60s Lotus Elan. Its tire width was originally 145. The latest models had ultra wide tires, 165.

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#554399 - 17/01/19 08:05 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: Hamwich]
Heinz Offline

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Originally Posted By Hamwich
Originally Posted By Heinz

I would like to tell you something from my own experience. The tyre size 165/80/15 is better than you think


Definitely. My car has 165bhp and is absolutely fine on 165 section tyres. It's all very well thinking that one must have as wide a tyre as possible for ultimate grip, but one pays a very heavy price in steering feel and agility.

Sure, the Roadsters and Plus 8s, with their 200+bhp need wider rubber to get their power down, but not the smaller stuff.


Plus a light car gets worse on wide tyres in the rain also.

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#554401 - 17/01/19 08:14 PM Re: Tyre advice/reminders please [Re: Heinz]
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Originally Posted By Heinz

Plus a light car gets worse on wide tyres in the rain also.


Indeed!
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