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What do we think about this then ?

Does anyone actually rely on these things like this arrogant parentless idiot.




Road safety campaigners have called on the Government to ban sales of laser jammers that stop speed cameras catching dangerous drivers after it emerged they are being promoted on Amazon and eBay as a way to outwit police.
Adverts promoting the cloaking devices as a way to avoid speeding fines have featured on the online retailers with reviewers boasting how they have fooled traffic officers, The Telegraph can reveal.
Last night, the charity Brake called for a crackdown on the sale of the “morally reprehensible” units that can scramble speed camera beams.
Timothy Hill, a 67-year-old businessman, was jailed last week for eight months and banned from driving for a year for perverting the course of justice after using a jammer in his Land Rover.

One advert with customer reviews was placed on Amazon
While it is not against the law to sell the lasers that also work as parking devices, it is illegal for motorist to use them to prevent police gathering information on a vehicle’s speed.
However, online sales have promoted the way they can interfere with police mobile speed cameras.
In an advert on Amazon, a seller said “obviously some naughty people use them as a way of defeating laser guns”, adding that its device had “greater jamming capability”.

A customer gave it a five star review as far back as 2015 saying there was “nothing more satisfying” than preventing the “traffic filth” - a derogatory reference to police - from fining him for speeding. He added that it had prevented him getting “three lots of three points” on his driving license. Another motorist gave it five stars saying it had “saved my licence more than once”.
On eBay, a £299 “laser diffuser” was being promoted for its ability to “fire back the same frequency and pulse rate thereby confusing the mobile laser speed camera equipment… effectively preventing it from taking a speed reading of your vehicle”. However, the seller added that it was not being sold as a laser jammer.
A number of the devices were available on eBay from both America and Australia.


Joshua Harris, of the road safety charity, Brake, said: “It is shocking to see laser jammers being advertised and used to pervert the course of justice and allow drivers to avoid being caught speeding.
“Breaking the speed limit is extremely dangerous and puts innocent lives at risk and those who do so deserve to be caught and punished. We urge the Government to crackdown on the sale of these morally reprehensible devices and ensure our roads are kept safe of dangerous drivers.”

Edmund King, the President of the Automobile Association
Edmund King, AA president, also called for them to “outlawed” adding that motorists should focus on the road “rather than use dubious devices to pervert the course of justice … and beat the law”.

Although the Advertising Standards Authority would not comment on specific cases, its general advice on marketing such apparatus states that retailers “should not not encourage illegal or irresponsible driving as this would fall foul of our rules on social responsibility”.

A fixed speed camera Credit: Danny Lawson/PA
A Department for Transport spokesman said ministers were looking at ways of “strengthening the law even further to help us catch those seeking to evade justice”.
A National Police Chiefs’ Council spokesman said speed cameras serve as a deterrent as well as a way to catch speeding motorists, adding that police would always attempt to capture those using laser jammers.
An eBay spokesman said: “We have banned the sale of these types of items on our site, and our policies in this area are stricter than UK law requires. Listings that don’t comply with our policies will be removed.”
Amazon declined to comment. However, the customers’ comments about using the device to stop police taking a reading of their cars' speeds have been removed.

Article courtesy of the torygraph.

Only a completely anti social moron would want to use one.

There is a far better way to avoid being caught, cruise control. I use it often in 30 and 40 limits.

Perhaps I shouldn't say it, but it was no surprise to me that the the person mentioned in the article was driving a large SUV.

I'm also disappointed that the Telegraph publicised this idiots behaviour. He is probably proud of his "5 mins of fame".

Peter, not all of us who drive SUVs are tarred with the same brush. The same comments could be aimed at anyone who drives fast Mercs 🙄 or any number of vehicles.
I don’t condone jammers but really are they any different than camera detectors? The only difference is that you continue to speed through the camera position rather than slow down for the camera then speed up.
I have never had a speeding ticket, pulled over twice years ago and ticked off, and don’t want one so I try to behave myself. But we all speed at times, 80 plus on the motorway, a tad over the limit elsewhere. I am strict in built up areas though. I knocked a young child over once and nearly killed him.....it has always stuck in my mind.

It seems to me that either the picture was released by the police for the purposes of publicity, or faked by the seller to promote sales. Either way, surely its very existence proves the device doesn't work?

~iw

I wonder if these jammer of both laser and radar variety would hamper the autominous systems on new self drive cars, if so then they could not only be accused of avoidance but actual endangerment to other road users?

They could thereby force a ban on the sale of them.

John,

I know, I shouldn't generalise....apologies....

But my observation is that most of the badly driven vehicles round here are SUVs, often with Mummy on the school run or late for something. A depressingly high use of hand held mobile devices too.

Like you, I've never paid a speeding fine or had points on my licence, despite taking a slightly caviller approach to the national speed limit.... But you are right, speeding in built up areas can never, ever, be condoned.

We have a number of 20mph limits here, the AMG Cruise control will work at 20 and I get perverse pleasure from holding up vehicles behind by sticking to 21mph. I think maintaining 20mph is something may drivers find difficult, perhaps because they don't understand how to use a gearbox properly.

A very good point.
I'm still unconvinced by autonomous driving

There was a report in the Totygraph that some muppet had been convicted of Dangerous Driving on the M1 in his Tesla, videoed by another car first with his hands over his eyes and then sitting in the passenger seat.

I didn't think Tesla had fully enabled totally autonomous function.

As you may be aware the speed limits on routes departmentales are being reduced to 80kph from July 1st and in our local village the through road has now implemented variable limits. I can see people using these pieces of equipment. Yesterday Peter, I was clearly frustrating a following driver by having to drop from 70 to 50 to 30 then up to 50, then down to 30 then back to fifty before resuming the 90 section. I think it will get worse and I think these pieces of equipment should not be available.

What on earth are variable limits designed to achieve...?
Surely not just collect money?

Thank goodness, other than on the Motorways, where they do seem to help a bit, we don't seem to have discovered this "fascinating" concept.

Variable speed limits are specifically designed to break up the standing waves you get with large volumes of traffic on roads with no natural breaks. Slowing down parts of the flow intermittently breaks up the waves and permits more constant throughput.

Variable speed limits aren't used off motorways because they aren't needed.