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Cpu by Morgan. That gives a warm and fuzzy feeling!!!
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Peter,
Loved reading the review, thank you. Interested in your comment that the six is NOT for the DIY mechanic, will that not be a problem for long distance drivers like me or for people who live a long way from a Morgan Dealer (1300 miles in my case). On the recent MOA VII which was 8000 miles, I was able to carry out routine maintenance on my +8 and repairs to other Roadsters, could be an issue on the Plus 6.
Bruce 1964 4/4 Series V Comp (Megan) 1994 +8 (Maurice) 2013 M3W (Olga)
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I think the comments about it being a non DIY serviceable car should be tempered with the outstandingly long service intervals cars have nowadays. Our (BMW) Mini is going in for a service on Monday. Coming up to 30,000 miles from new this will be only its third service and second oil change as advised by onboard computer. Never put any oil in it either between services, at least it hasn't asked for any since no dipstick 
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I agree... the M140i I owned used BMW's variable service system and when it went at 9 months old the first service was shown as being due when the car would have been 2.5 years old. Given the CPU monitors a myriad of variables I think this made sense. But MMC probably don't use brake wear indicators and so on, so I guess it will be an annual service or 15,000 miles, whichever is soonest.
The Plus 8 is little different, likewise the two AMGs. Modern cars don't need servicing, in the way even 1990s cars did. All the wear items that we used to check self check: the A35 even shows tyre pressure and temperature all the time whilst driving!
So, the PlusSix offers the DIY mechanic little or no opportunity, and at the annual service a diagnostic computer is needed that can talk to Morgan Motor Company, not BMW.
Peter, 66, 2016 Porsche Boxster S No longer driving Tarka, the 2014 Plus 8...
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Thoughts...
1: What is the warrantee period for the Plus 6?
2: Are Morgan having all their dealer mechanics trained on the complexities of the plus 6
3: If something goes wrong a few years down the line it could be a tad expensive to fix! Answers.... 1. Warranty is 3 years, as all modern Morgans. 2. The Plus Six is little more complex than the Plus8. Some dealers struggle with these cars, but the bigger ones don't. There will be many more Plus 6 cars than Aeros. All the dealer needs to do is hire a BMW trained technician.... 3. Yes, as is the case with all modern computer managed cars.
Peter, 66, 2016 Porsche Boxster S No longer driving Tarka, the 2014 Plus 8...
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Modern engines, unless something catastrophic has happened, are essentially sealed units. I have a V8 in one car that I've done over 130,000 miles in with fluid changes only - which I could do myself if I could be bothered.
So there's nothing that really requires servicing in the traditional sense as far as the engine is concerned. I feel sure the 6 is the same.
Morgan's being the way they are, will always need 'something' attending to, but it would be moderately rare to be within the engine.... I know Peter had a vacuum thing come off on his 8 which was quite involved, but I suspect that's unusual.
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So for someone like me who lives 1300 miles from the nearest Morgan dealer the Plus Six would be a non starter unless I factored in the cost of getting it to and back from the dealer for routine servicing into the ownership costs.
Bruce 1964 4/4 Series V Comp (Megan) 1994 +8 (Maurice) 2013 M3W (Olga)
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So for someone like me who lives 1300 miles from the nearest Morgan dealer the Plus Six would be a non starter unless I factored in the cost of getting it to and back from the dealer for routine servicing into the ownership costs. take it to local BMW for routine servicing
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Thoughts...
1: What is the warrantee period for the Plus 6?
2: Are Morgan having all their dealer mechanics trained on the complexities of the plus 6
3: If something goes wrong a few years down the line it could be a tad expensive to fix! Answers.... 1. Warranty is 3 years, as all modern Morgans.2. The Plus Six is little more complex than the Plus8. Some dealers struggle with these cars, but the bigger ones don't. There will be many more Plus 6 cars than Aeros. All the dealer needs to do is hire a BMW trained technician.... 3. Yes, as is the case with all modern computer managed cars. Sorry Peter the warranty is clearly stated in handbook as 30 months or 30,000 miles (2016 M3W and 2018 Roadster). Have not heard of any reports on it changing in the last year unless Aero's were different ![[Linked Image]](https://www.series2club.co.uk/new_forum/Smileys/wittsends/nixweiss.gif)
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Mine was 30 months on my Trad.....................
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