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Agreed. I'd be amazed if MMC weren't already planning for a hybrid drive train, and surely they must have designed the CX platform to be able to accommodate batteries for a pure EV - after all, they know better than any of us which way the legislation is heading.

Typical wrong headed knee-jerk political thinking. Recent tests have shown that modern Euro 6D (temp) diesel cars with Addblue and particle filters can be less polluting than petrol cars.

There are some who believe that the best option for a hybrid car would be to use a small, efficient, diesel engine which would produce even less CO2 than petrol hybrids.

https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/mercedes-benz/e63-amg/e300de-se-4dr-9g-tronic/first-drive

Unfortunately the key word is "can" in this regard though Peter. Most of the diesel vehicles buggering up the air quality in Bristol are nowhere near this spec.

The answer to the two problems of diesel polution, fine carbon particles and NOx, is to ban diesels that do not have particle filters and Adblue. This means in effect that Bristol could significantly improve air quality by first banning pre Euro 5 diesels that do not have particle filters and then banning pre Euro 6 diesels that do not have Adblue.

An example is the current list of vehicles prohibited from the centre of Milan

Prohibitions in force

Euro 0, 1 petrol
Euro 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 diesel without DPF
Euro 0, 1, 2, 3 diesel with after-market DPF with particulate mass class lower than Euro 4
Euro 3, 4 diesel with DPF as standard and field V.5 certificate> 0.0045 g / km or no value in the V.5 certificate
Euro 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 diesel with after-market DPF installed after 31.12.2018 and with particulate mass class at least equal to Euro 4
dual-fuel diesel-LPG and diesel-methane Euro 0, 1, 2

Sadly this is where the manufacturer's track record has caused them more problems. People just don't believe their claims any more.

The results I mentioned above for diesels were from independent real world testing by a group of European consumer associations. The Citroen C3 diesel came out best of test.

I have said it on here several times....."I have it on good authority that diesel engines have at least one more roll of the dice" governments will realise that they are cleaner than many petrol engines .

I agree old diesels are not!

You would hope so. Morgan got a 6 million pound grant in 2016 toward building electric cars was to design a new platform to make EV's so the new CX platform should be that platform - the fact the other companies involved didn't produce the drive train doesn't mean Morgan shouldn't have produced the platform.

This is a quote from 2016 by Steve Morris - The money will also be used to fund development of plug-in hybrid and electric powertrains for the EV3 and the rest of the Morgan product lineup.

Is that realistic or are the companies going to have to cheat like VW did with their diesels just to pass some government based impossible test, or say sorry we can't actually achieve your unrealistic target?

I found this graphic dramatically illustrates diesel emission standards over the years.