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When I red the link in your Bentley post Madmax my first thought was identical to Peter`s... In the recent past Jaguar did much the same thing, all of which may be based upon thinking relative to the many companies who have created what are essentially updated former classics..? I suspect the idea being to make old cars fit more with the requirements of ageing would be owners who may have lusted after such machines when younger,either that or to match the expectations of younger drivers by perhaps introducing so many of the comfort, bling and toys that so many seem to be desirous of today..? I note like Jaguar it seems Bentley are perhaps seeking to make an accurate replica of the original as opposed to an updated version..? The whole RETRO market seemed to begin around the time Audi brought the TT to market followed by the VW Beetle on something like the then current Golf floor pan (?) Of course the market opened up into Eagle E Types and Singer 911`s and so many more. In Porsche terms it seems perhaps tuning for ever more power and improving handling to match the new found power and more expensive engineering as interpreted in that which RUF built into 911/930 Porsches, perhaps evolved in time for RUF to also include a degree of bling..? I suspect it all seems an entirely natural progression...What next I wonder... ? But then I suspect if you paid out a bazillion for a Ferrari 250 GTO, you might be none too happy if Ferrari began to build another group of GTO`s for a quarter bazillion..? From a very dull memory, if I think back to when Jaguar recreated their D Type clones they found some old chassis numbers that had never been registered, perhaps the original cars destroyed in the Browns Rd fire before reaching customers..? Such important details can add real value...perhaps..? All this takes me back to the lengthy legal wrangles over Old No 1 that ended up in the high court of England...  The thing is will those recreated Bentleys run on E10... 
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So you can fake vintage Bentleys and sell them for the same price as the genuine article but do the same with a Picasso and you get 5 years in jail.  It's a funny old world.
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So you can fake vintage Bentleys and sell them for the same price as the genuine article but do the same with a Picasso and you get 5 years in jail.  It's a funny old world. A recreation is surely not a deliberate attempt to fool people is it ? It is clearly marketed as a re creation . If you wanted to buy an original Bentley the Bentley club would make sure it was original .......
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The quality one's built down here in Devon are clearly advertised as recreations and the amount they cost they don't need to pretend and the quality is better than original Bob Petersen
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Well it was a tongue in cheek comment but nevertheless, there is no such concept as a "continuation" grand master. You try and fake a Monet or a Degas and the French authorities will destroy it, irrespective of whether you claim it to be original. I've no actual beef with car recreations but why the "blower"? It's a car that was built against the express wishes of WO himself, never won anything and ultimately played a part in bringing down the company. No-one ever recreates a 3 litre 
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I saw a replica at Bicester once. Way to shiny & no patina. I was once at the FOS by the Bentley blowers when it came on to rain very hard . The cars were under an awning & no one was going anywhere. One very nice owner let me sit in one. Boy they are huge, you site very high & I imagine you need arms like Tarzan to steer them.
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When we see them in the car parking area at Revival I just love looking over them and drinking in that old leather and hot oil smell, the patina and the leather gaiters over the steering linkages etc is just wonderful. Always a few German registered one's in the car park now that is some trek.
Seeing them going for it on the track is something else with that great chimney of an exhaust out the back, they are brave boys bowling along at such speeds in these old chariots and long may it last.
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Richard, when I lived in Den Haag I would commute to Vlaardingen near Rotterdam. The motorway takes you right past the turn off for the Hoek van Holland ferry. Therefore you would see a wide range of classics on that route , but my favourites were always the classic Bentleys. I had to push my Moto Guzzi Le mans hard to keep up with some of them. 
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John, that must have been a fabulous sight and sound 
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The Guzzi had straight through Lanfranconi pipes so I think it was a bit of a contest as to who was loudest.
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