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Rear suspension system
I took shopping trolley (Subaru Justy 4x4)to have winter tyres fitted and was struck by the suspension system used on the rear axle.
The Justy has a rear differential and drum brakes, similar to the Morgan, but uses a coil suspension system on trailing arms with a panhard rod.
It made me wonder how such a system might work on a Morgan.
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Peter Mulberry, at Mulfab, has designed a multi-link rear suspension for the Mog- and wishbones for the front. http://www.mulfab.co.uk/our-products/2/steering-suspension(click on the graphics to enlarge) Gerry
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They charge far too much for their conversion though..!!! Its time Morgan made the more powerful cars with an up to date suspension system im sure it wouldn't cost much and would improve the cars no end ..Keep the 4/4 with the traditional set up for the purists and update the the others.. Not with the Aero chassis too expensive im sure ,just a simple steel frame with independent coil overs front and rear.. An Eco turbo engine in the Plus 4 would be nice at the same time . we can only hope...
Peter. Aero plus8 50th Anniversary.
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Perhaps when the supply of ash runs low.................
Jays Former Morgan owner. Gone but hopefully not forgotten!
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They charge far too much for their conversion though..!!! Its time Morgan made the more powerful cars with an up to date suspension system im sure it wouldn't cost much and would improve the cars no end ..Keep the 4/4 with the traditional set up for the purists and update the the others.. Not with the Aero chassis too expensive im sure ,just a simple steel frame with independent coil overs front and rear.. An Eco turbo engine in the Plus 4 would be nice at the same time . we can only hope... I'm with you on this Pete. If Morgan produced such a car I think I would be one of the first to place an order. I love the Plus 4 but I don't view it with rose tinted glasses. I Might start a thread asking what people would like to see in the 2014 Plus 4
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I don't think the current chassis could take a trailing arm mounting without some strengthening. The Mulberry version I saw a couple of years ago had leading arms pivoted at the end of the chassis. Then there's no room for a coil spring of that size (above)or a damper of that length. I think there's a greater threat from the supply of a solid rear axle. We must be getting close to a point where a suitable live axle is no longer available. But a simple independant system bolted to the current chassis would be an 'untested' solution which might not bring much improvement. If we are prepared to stomach a price rise, there's no reason why an aluminium tub couldn't be made for the trads with a modern suspension system.
DaveW '05 Red Roadster S1 '16 Yellow (Not the only) Narrow AR GDI Plus 4
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I Might start a thread asking what people would like to see in the 2014 Plus 4 Great Idea Peter. Give them a bit more time to come up with the 'next gen' version of the trad range - say 2015. My personal wish list would be: - Bonded aluminium chassis, scaled down for width to preserve dimensions of narrow-bodied cars - Independent coil overs F&R with a touch more travel - Keep narrow wheels with tall tyres - Small capacity engines with light-pressure turbo and transient over boost - Entry level model hits £30k price point* * I did say it was a 'wish' list - but Lotus can do it... (For the time being)
Stuart "There's no skill substitute like cubic inches."
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It gets my vote Dave. I'm not excited by kingpins at all. We see plenty of classics with 'sensible modern upgrades'. Probably started something now:(
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I think the bonded chasis thing is not good for trads. Am I wrong in thinking that ir's very easy to damage and very expensive to repair? A good old fashioned chasis means the car can last forever! nick
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I'm with you Nick. I personally can't see the attraction of a bonded alloy chassis...unless its on an Aero...or a Lotus. The trad range would just cease to be "trads" as well and end up being just a pastiche of a car loosing a lot of its charm. Apart from the styling, a lot of the attraction to me is the feel of the chassis and suspension. Otherwise you may as well buy an MX5.
Jays Former Morgan owner. Gone but hopefully not forgotten!
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