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In an effort to make the seats more comfortable, I want to remove the upper section of the seat back, so I can change the angle of dangle, but can't work out how it is fixed. It could be velcro but it doesn't move easily enough when I pull, so I don't want to damage anything by pulling too hard, has anyone had theirs out yet, and if so, what is the secret?

Easy peasy, many thanks, I wasn't thinking they had fixed it in quite so securely.

I had mine out again today, fixing a couple more slack bulkhead bolts.

Ivan, wrt loose fasteners & bolting, are you using a torque wrench and some form of standard torque figure(s) or is just a matter of judgement?

No torque setting, just tighten up any bolts that are loose.
They use a lot of crimped in captive nuts on the frame, a number of mine are turning, which makes tightening more difficult.
Fortunately I have been able to get to the back of most of them to hold them or replace with normal nuts.

I can't seem to locate the 2 metal tabs which release the lower back rest. Presumably they are accessed from within the car and are between the top of the lower back rest and the bottom of the top backrest. Is this correct and how and which way do I move them to release.

They aren't really tabs, they are large pieces of aluminium, size of a pocket diary, with a kink in them. These slide up behind the upper section of the seat. Hope tis makes sense

The first time I removed mine I couldn't slide the bottom section out until I took off the seat belt catches, I've since trimmed a bit off the bottom corners of the bottom section to save having to do this each time .
While you've got them out its well worth sealing all the gaps with tape and silicon it stops the car filling up with water when it rains and prevents the interior getting covered in dust from the belt.

Almost finished with the sealing and am tackling the almost last bit of covering the rear access to the seat belt channel. It is wide open to the rear wheel and deserves a cover. My lady friend did not take kindly to pulling the seatbelt out to fasten it and finding road grit, water and mud added to her once clean shirt.

I could really do without those withering looks... sigh

Found a 1/2" water pipe foam insulator that I will modify to fit around the rear tray to help with keeping road mung from creeping up to that space. Biggest problem with that is the leather hinge flap. Someone posted a picture of a ABS trailer fender that with only a slight modification wraps around the whole wheel and would seem to greatly reduce the dirt incidence. That's next!

Yep, the trailer mudguard works well ,well worth doing too ! I've also fitted a piece of leather across the gap by the leather hinge, I got caught in heavy storm last week and for the first time the boot was completely dry:-)

Now that is good news! What size was the trailer fender? Will order tonight as I am listening to some wicked thunder and lightning storms breeze through here!

It was I think 8 1/2 inches wide and for a 15" wheel, a round profile as some have flat tops, I can't find the paperwork but am pretty sure that's right. Be good to test it in a serious storm !

Have just measured it ,it is 8 1/2 inches wide. Going back to the seat belt problem ,I have screwed a rubber flap to the wood at the top which hangs down covering that whole area, the new fender will obviously help too.

Most excellent. I have rethought the fender idea and am seriously considering getting a steel fender and mounting it to the trunk deck from the bottom. That gets it as high as it needs to be and when removing the deck to get to the rear wheel, brake, belt, whatever, it is automatically removed for access, which is the reason the rear deck came off in the first place!

As for covering the seat belt alleyway, I have since found that it has greatly reduced the bevel box whine since it was a straight shot to the ears from there. An added bonus. The interior is much cleaner already after a nice morning run.

Pleased to hear seatbelt problem is sorted . I'll be interested to hear how you get on with new fender plan, I wonder if it'll be possible to get it close enough to the wheel to stop muck flying everywhere ? There is still good access to everything with the other system. Btw don't forget the wheel isn't in the centre but is offset, I forgot this when trimming mine!

Thanks for the tip! A work in progress is the name of this game...

I was the Trailer mudguard/fender "inventor" - it also keeps the seat belts clean/dry and stops debris flying up through the leather hinge - so well worth doing - and an easy mod IMHO

Indeed ! A very good "invention" ,thankyou :-) Hope Morgan pay you a royalty fee when they start fitting them. ....

Thanks seat backs removed can now seal all the gaps. Some slightly more detailed instruction which may help others.

1) Remove both seat squabs by lifting front edge and pull forwards to release from under lower edge of lower back rest.
2) Remove plastic boot liner, 8 socket head button screws.
3) Remove 4 M6 hexagon head screws through rear bulkhead holding upper back rest in place.
4) Push seat belt receptors down out of the way.
5) Pull lower edge of lower backrest forwards over seat belt receptors, continue pulling forwards and push down on upper edge of lower back rest. This releases two aluminium tabs which slide down from behind the upper backrest as the lower backrest is pulled out.
6) Push upper backrest down to clear bodywork and remove.

It took me about 10 minutes to do this the first time.