Sospan,
agreed on the learning part, hence my comment on 70s Kwackers. But in the 3.7 with fly by wire throttle etc I can image it is easy to go to far. Even my 3 l is a bit lively when wet & I have done a 180 spin on the A5 coming off a roundabout whilst accelerating a bit too soon & hitting diesel. I was tired , I knew there was often diesel there so it was my own stupid fault.
