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For owners who may have missed this Autocar: Front suspension upgrade.
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Thanks for this. I was considering going the BHM track day at Goodwood next month (subject top the car been run-in), and the my cay is still at the factory. I've emailed them (no joy on the phone) asking if this is necersary for my usage and if they could fit it today..... I'll report any feedback!
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That is a bit concerning as I would imagine we have some enthusiastic drivers amongst our owners.
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Actually, as far as I can see, a problem has been identified and a fix offered.
Provided that all owners know about the issue (which is why I posted it) and the upgrade is offered to all those who want it FOC and with good grace then the issue is resolved.
Brian
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That is a bit concerning as I would imagine we have some enthusiastic drivers amongst our owners. Seems more than just a bit concerning. Obviously not enough for MMC lawyers to issue a recall, but still something to take not of. It is nice that MMC is offering the upgrade for free, which begs to wonder why everyone who has one wouldnt get the upgrade even if you dont plan on pushing it "that" far.
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Thanks for this. I was considering going the BHM track day at Goodwood next month (subject top the car been run-in), and the my cay is still at the factory. I've emailed them (no joy on the phone) asking if this is necersary for my usage and if they could fit it today..... I'll report any feedback! Morgan were happy to fit them, but it would have delayed the delivery of my car. So I'll take the upgrade at next service if it looks like its needed!
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I assume this has some hand in my build week passing without any progress that I am aware of. I have heard the expression "drive it till the wheels fall off", but they didn't have to go and take it so literally! I found this reported on Motor Sport Magazines website: A unique opportunity for Morgan Andrew Frankel
A few weeks back I was at the Bedford Autodrome when a Morgan 3 Wheeler suffered a suspension failure.
I was some distance away and saw only the aftermath of the ensuing accident, but it was one of those scenes that makes you feel ill more for what could have happened rather than what actually did. The car was seriously damaged but mercifully its entirely innocent occupant seemed not much more than severely shaken by the experience.
I can remember wondering what Morgan’s response would be, for I’ve known other small car companies blame everyone and everything when someone has pointed the finger at them. Not Morgan. Despite having considerable scope to try and wriggle out of it by blaming the man rather than the machine, Morgan elected to play it with a straight bat. It admitted the suspension failure caused the accident and not the other way around, and said that the front wishbones had bent, pulling out the ball-joints and detaching the wheel as a result of being weakened during previous track use. It went on to say it will now use wishbones that are some 20 per cent stronger and that it will retro-fit them to all M3Ws whose owners want them free of charge.
Good enough? Not quite. What Morgan is not doing is actually recalling the cars, or at least not publically. I hope that in private it has made calls to all owners around the world telling them to use their cars only for gentle road use until they can get the new wishbones. I think this not only because it is clearly the right thing to do, but also should a similar failure happen but with somewhat more serious consequences and it could be shown to be the result of a known pre-existing weakness in the suspension, then Morgan could find itself up to its neck in litigation. It could also earn the 3-Wheeler a reputation that would likely prove hard to shake.
Of course you take a risk every time you get in this Morgan and it’s got nothing to do with its unorthodox wheel count. Like many other ultra-low volume, largely handmade cars or indeed any classic car, it comes without the computer designed crumple zones, sophisticated electronics and myriad other safety nets we take for granted in mass-produced modern tin boxes. And I wouldn’t have it any other way. Just before its accident I’d been skidding around Bedford in the Morgan having a wonderful time and not sparing a thought for the fact my right arm was effectively outside the car and my head so far above the roll bar it might as well have not been there.
But there’s a difference between the dangers you know and accept as an unavoidable component of the driving experience you seek, and those you do not. In this case there should be no circumstances in which a wheel can become detached from such a car on any tarmac surface, be it road or track, unless as a direct result of impact damage.
Morgan actually has an opportunity here: the chance to show that while its cars may be retro, its attitude to customer care is anything but. It can engage with its clients over an issue most if not all will understand and make them feel included, valued and cared for at the same time. Or it can stand firm, force its customers to be pro-active and take the substantial risk that, sooner or later, someone else is going to come a cropper for similar reasons and with untold consequences. In that position, I know which path I’d choose. http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/road-cars/opinions/an-opportunity-for-morgan/
Charlie, Former Editor Morgan Owners Group - Great Lakes
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If it was me I would have the wishbones replaced. A race track has smooth bitumen, the roads are full of pot holes. Which is more likely to damage suspension components?
I rest my case.
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Perhaps roads would be a bit smoother if they joined all the potholes together?? 
Graham (G4FUJ)
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Graham -- over here they just fill the pothole with a shovel full of tarmac - usually when it's wet so it comes straight out. If it happens to be dry, then it forms a bump(cause they never roll it) - After a couple of years, our local road has more bumps and holes than original road -- I call it our suspension test track!!!!!
Robbie 2021 Plus Four -- Helga 211-WX-1433
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