Talk Morgan Forums Morgan Sports Cars Classic Morgans (pre-CX) X Flow engine replacement

Hi.
Help needed.
I am seeking advice on a replacement engine for a 4/4 fitted with a X flow.
Looking for something more modern but dont want to go down the route of ECU, computers and chips etc
A Zetec seems the obvious choice but can I fit one of these engines without all the electrical paraphenalia assosiated with modern cars.
If they were available without all the electrical gizmos what years should I be looking at please.
I may be a Ludite but I want to keep things simpler!
Perhaps thats the reason I like Morgans in the first place.
Any help very much appreciated.

Zetec is the easiest.... Twin 45's but you will need a digital ignition to provide the spark. You may find that a simple non 3D ignition is available though it's pretty easy to get a 3D ignition set-up.

TBH... the same is going to be true for anything other than Dizzy OEM engines such as the Xflow, Pinto or early CVH.... and all of these are a complete generation behind the Zetec.

711 ford block aka X flow can be the base of other engines.

BDA, brutal but effective, or Lotus twin cam, elegant but expensive.

Jon the Chieft

Hi
This may help:

There is a very good Zetec 18 page guide in Mays 'Classic Ford' magazine.

David 2001 4/4 4 seater. Zetec Silvertop.

Thanks for your answers chaps.
I will get hold of a copy of Classic Ford and have a read up.
Has any of the TM'ers carried out the swop from x flow to zetec and got any tips/advice?

Yep....

Things to consider:
1) stick with 4 speeds or go to 5 (if 5 then you'll need to shorten your prop)
2) stock engine or modified (set a budget and stick to it)
3) you'll need to modify your clutch mechanism (Peddal through to release bearing)
4) lots of go needs lots of stop
5) plan...plan....plan.

Don't rush - it will take longer then you think if it's your first engine swap.

Have fun & enjoy - we're all here to help if you need it!!

There are some short write ups in Shropmog
http://www.shropmog.co.uk/index.htm
http://www.shropmog.co.uk/index.htm

Thanks John "V6" very interesting reads. Didn't know that they were there.

Hello Jeepy,
Just out of curiosity, what is it about the xflow that you find objectionable? Lack of power? Maintenance?

The reason I ask is that I've just purchased a 711M crossflow block with the intention of replacing my 1.5 pre-crossflow motor with it.

From what I've read these crossflow engines can be easily upgraded (cam, pistons, sport exhaust, etc.) to 110 hp or so. That would certainly be adequate for my needs, but now I'm thinking I may be going down the wrong path. Is there something I'm missing?

Warren

Nothing wrong with the cross flow, simple to tune and reliable.