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Where does the idea come from that this is a standard Ford engine? To me it seems to be something put together by Specialist Components not by Ford. One should also note the small print.
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Why have Morgan changed to this powerplant? Has the Duratec been withdrawn and is no longer available from Ford? It would be interesting to know if it's a real innovation or just a necessary change. After all the 2.0 GDI has been available in the US since the 2012 MY Focus - but not in Europe.
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Duratec engines in Europe have been superceeded by the ecoboost range which the GDI is part of the same family albeit in a none turbo option hence Morgan are using the US varient
Mark - No Longer driving Archie the Old English Sheep Mog........... 2010 Roadster 3.0 V6 (S3) 
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The Ti-VCT engines seem to offer very real advantages in that the variable cam timing can produce more torque at lower RPM. I am not so sure that the direct injection (GDI) offers any great advantage in power output. The Mazda engine used in the Plus 4 SS is a Ti-VCT engine and was rated at 167 bhp in standard form (more than the current GDI Plus 4) and, with the additions of throttle bodies was rated at 205 bhp. Add a set of cams and you would gain a lot more at the top end but probably loose torque at lower revs. Ok if you want to race but not so good on the road.
One of the experts on the forum could probably comment but my feeling is that the variable cam timing is advantageous in producing better power curves but direct injection is more about fuel economy and reducing emissions than about producing more power.
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One of the experts on the forum could probably comment but my feeling is that the variable cam timing is advantageous in producing better power curves but direct injection is more about fuel economy and reducing emissions than about producing more power. I'm no expert but I suspect it is also about reducing costs through commonality of components. The new 2.0L GDI BMW engine is almost the same as the 2.0 CDI, the block, head, crank etc are all common.
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The GDI is not, as far as I understand it, any relation to the Ford Ecoboost range, but a completely different engine. As it is not a common powerplant in Europe, I do wonder how long it will be available, and whether it is therefore a wise choice.
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