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Red3W #243907 02/01/15 09:01 PM
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Yes go for it. I still think that incorrect handling / fitting of the belt was probably the biggest problem in the first instance.

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Blackjack Zero with a Guzzi engine.
http://www.blackjackzero.com/pages/blackjack_zero.html

My dad made one of the early Blackjack cars using a 2CV engine. Designer Richard Oakes.
http://www.3wheelers.com/einterview8.html

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Interesting showing Blackjack kit assemblies/chassis and costs.
http://www.blackjackzero.com/mainindex.htm

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The Blackjack engine placement looks much farther forward compared with either the M3W or Triking, almost at the leading edge of the tires. I wonder what affect that has on handling.

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The original Mini had the engine gearbox all forward of the front wheel centres and they stick to the road like glue, like the Blackjack front wheel drive. So if the Mini is anything to go by it should improve directional handling

Another interesting note is on the website it mentions unequal length wishbones being used to eliminate bump and torque steer.






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Now that s one of the ugliest cars I have ever seen. Of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

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Suddenly the M3W is beautiful....


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Suddenly? The M3W, along with the narrow bodied trads (wink wink), is among the most beautiful vehicles being produced on this planet!


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Originally Posted By Peter J
Suddenly the M3W is beautiful....

The MTW is beautiful! Thats one of her few advantages!


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Quite agree Matty, when it comes down to beauty nothing with 3 wheels have ever matched the Morgan in my view. It just looks right from every angle. A pure classic design faithful to the original car. That is why I firmly believe nothing needs changing or meddling with except improvements in reliability. I personally think we are now on the right tracks on that score and in time should have a fully sorted car, obviously at a cost.

Back to the S&S engine - it is again visually perfect for the car, well finished, is a size in balance with the rest of the cars proportions, performs well and makes all the right noises. The front is designed to be on view, not the case with the Guzzy engine which is installed in the bike East/West. Once the S&S engines few failings are sorted, in my view it is perfect for the car. Tuning upgrades are on the way, usually from these more development and reliability are fed back into the engine

I just wonder if the chassis on the Morgan would have been benefited if a designer such as Richard Oakes of Blackjack was involved in the development, his chassis has plenty of triangulation bracing?

The styling of the Morgan like the Coke bottle in my view needs no changes! A different engine could spoil the cars looks. Again this is my view. It is amazing how many people recognise the car as a Morgan, although until 2012, a very rare sight on our roads and still rare! Just a thousand and odd added to the numbers around the world!


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