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Thanks Red3
I'm so glad I persevered through the compensator and chassis issues. She's a little beauty now.

Yes, Matty
Ownership of these fun little cars has been an experience - but like you with upgrades, feel I now have a car I can enjoy!

Anyone seen this on youtube?

Polaris Slingshot vs. Can-Am Spyder F3 vs. Morgan 3 Wheeler
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuXWHGEBPT0

Neat video and interesting they praised the handling and steering of the Morgan - particularly when getting to the limit

It did have the comfort pack, so why not?

Now I just want warmer days to try out my Empire version.... *s*

I find it facinating that most cars and other Reverse trike three wheelers have front tyres substantially wider than the Mog, and yet, although it does ultimately understeer, the Morgan actually has quite reasonable me3chanical grip levels, even with the standard sidecar tyre.

I notice that Mark Reeves at the factory, used 18" wheels when campaigning the factory car, and can't help wondering this is due to the availability of better rubber or that an 18" wheel gives better balance on track, and maybe even on the road?

I thought the roadtest guys were very informative and interesting, with real world experience of all three machines.

I suspect that the use of pram-type front tyres was partly to compensate for the single rear wheel, to ensure that the car slides as a whole rather than oversteer too much, particularly at high speeds. I completely agree that the car finds tremendous grip, given the tyre sizes, but that's likely to be significantly helped by the light weight (525kg is of course very light by comparison to almost anything else with 4 wheels on the road, Se7en aside of course). At really high speed, the car slides brilliantly and I had quite the best time ever at Goodwood last August - clearly a track designed for low-grip, high-speed cornering. Had it been fitted with super sticky tyres all round, I doubt it would have been any more fun and would in all likelihood have become a potential roll-over victim if one over does it.

I am pretty sure that Mark Reeves uses 18's due to the availability of sticky bike tyres and in fact last time I saw his car he had Avon Gripsters on the front - a super sticky bike tyre that I ran on a KMX200 years ago. But, with the inherent instability of the 3-wheel design, the cornering technique (and confidence!) need careful attention.

I look forward to trying my new Blockleys soon, when fitted, as they might _just_ pull back that last edge of understeer that can make good road progress a little risky. Whilst on that subject, the Empire kit has allowed me to run fronts at 25psi instead of 22psi and this has added good stability in the initial cornering phase too, so I have high hopes for the Blockleys, with their slightly 'firmer' construction.

There's a brilliant video of Chris Harris driving an AMG C63 on 4 space-saver wheels/tyres. Proof if ever needed that less grip is more fun - our cars are pretty much perfect as they are I think!

C63 on Space-Savers

I expect 18" wheels allow the centre of gravity to be lowered without any other changes as well, which almost certainly improves handling and grip. Fine for track use, but...

Thinking back to my trips with a Honda Goldwing and the 2 tire grip I am not surprised the MTW handles well with the present 3 wheels.
Weight, torque and bhp were not so much different and the bike had no problems cornering or doing high speed and I enjoyed to rub off the footrests

On a winding road in Australia I had a lot of trouble staying with a Goldwing and sidecar outfit. I was riding a 1000cc Laverda and he could corner faster than I was prepared to risk.

The outfit had been fitted with an Earls fork front end and 16" car radials all round. The result in handling was impressive to say the least.

It would have been very similar to this but this photo is not a Goldwing

You should have been riding a BMW, they have used versions of the system for years, the "Telelever" is but a development.

Most bikes have traditional telescopic forks because that is what is expected. Not because it is better....

If Morgan had spent as much time and effort developing the sliding hub suspension as BMW has spend on the Earles design where would it be today?