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I believe most of the plus 8's a couple of years ago went to Australia but the bottom has fallen out of that market. I think that they still hold their price better than a roadster tho' and far cheaper for a road fund licence too!
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Are you sure you want to sell your R500 for an old fashioned plus 8 ?? You may well miss the R500 a lot !
I did look fleetingly at the plus 8's at Allon White's but saw sense and went for a modern engined Mog with Tb's and lots of scope for upgrading , my caterham service agent has just put R400 cams in !
That's a very good point, the older Plus 8s are oozing with character, but they aren't exactly powerful by modern standards, the 3.5 Carb versions put out around 155bhp and the 4.0l versions did around 190bhp IIRC, and they had a pretty prodigious thirst too - sub 20mpg is easily attainable. The modern Plus 4s on the other hand are extremely amenable to tuning, but they go bloody well without.
Tim H. 1986 4/4 VVTi Sport, 2002 LR Defender, 2022 Mini Cooper SE
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But they don't have that gorgeous V8 burble Tim 
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But they don't have that gorgeous V8 burble Tim Oh it's a lovely sound right enough, but it's a noise that personally I've always associated more with American muscle cars rather than British sports cars - which to my mind should have straight 4's or 6's.
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Lightsphere, yep, that was the one, I virtually swapped my Plus 8 with an early Aero as the owner needed the narrower sills of the Plus 8 due to knee problems. I remember driving home thinking, wow, what a car the Aero was, I fell in love instantly.
It is indeed difficult to compare the Musgrove Plus 8 I had with my Caterham, they do things differently but both are entertaining. On pure performance alone, the Caterham makes even a tuned Plus 8's performance laughable. With inboard front suspension and a 265bhp Minister built Duratec engine, it feels so powerful and agile, it's like a surgeons scalpel the way it scythes through traffic on a track day. The car performes way beyond my abilities.
The Plus 8 on the other hand took a lot more input to make it quick. You really had to concentrate to drive it quickly, it just wasn't anywhere near as predictable and controllable as the 7.
But then again, that's not what a Plus 8's really about. The 7 is great for a fast blat but to be honest, it's a pain to use on our bumpy and crowded roads and as its so extreme, you end up leaving it in the garage a lot of times where a Plus 8 would have been taken out.
The Plus 8 was a joy to own as it was so simple, you could really get to know the car and maintenance and upkeep was a joy. It was full of character and you got enjoyment in driving at normal road speeds. As a classic, it's eminently useable, whether that's to go for a Sunday drive, trip out to a restaurant in the evening, or a European driving holiday and it's that overall userbility that really appeals. Plus I love the look and the V8 burble is hard to beat.
Coincidently, I noticed that one of my old threads has been resurrected and my old Musgrove Plus 8 has just been sold. Hope the new owner is enjoying her, she was a great car.
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Minster built Duratec is the way to go ...in a Duratec Mog !
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Haven't Minster gone bust Max? How about a £10k Cosworth built 260+bhp 2.3 Duratec with enough torque to pull stumps out of the ground?
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Haven't Minster gone bust Max? How about a £10k Cosworth built 260+bhp 2.3 Duratec with enough torque to pull stumps out of the ground? Where would one get a Cosworth from now Paul , nice power house though , have seen a few figures on rollingroads which are staggering ! Didn't know about Minster going under , very big shame .
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Minister closed down a couple of years ago. I have an invoice for my engine at an eye watering £14k. Luckily that was settled by the original owner.
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Cosworth may be able to supply them still, probably for more than £10k now though, otherwise Omex would certainly be able to build up a 2.5 Duratec, putting out up to 300bhp, they would probably be able to supercharge it too.
I would bet a pound to a penny that Chunky's race engine is being built by Omex at this very moment.
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