Forums34
Topics48,341
Posts812,981
Members9,208
|
Most Online1,046 Aug 24th, 2023
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 11,610 Likes: 43
Wave & smile... It's a Morgan Member of the Inner Circle
|
Wave & smile... It's a Morgan Member of the Inner Circle
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 11,610 Likes: 43 |
Nothing to do with the noise of the car
2008 XXVII Platform, Bugatti Blue Roadster 4 Seater
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,356 Likes: 2
Talk Morgan Expert
|
Talk Morgan Expert
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,356 Likes: 2 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 14,723 Likes: 149
Member of the Inner Circle
|
Member of the Inner Circle
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 14,723 Likes: 149 |
I had a discussion with Borghi the other day on the subject of helmets in the M3W in Italy.
He confirmed that by law both a helmet and seatbelts must be used. The M3W is not homologated to comply with the requirements of a safety cage in Italy. The authority was specifically asked if the fitting of a higher roll bar (as for Australia) would suffice: the reply was no because there was no proof (as in crash tests etc) that the rest of the frame was sufficiently strong to ensure that the roll bar would not collapse. I can well imagine that the Australian homologation testing would not be accepted by the Italian bureaucracy.
If a two or three wheeler is fitted with a passenger safety cage and seatbelts the obligation of wearing a helmet is waved, however in the case of a three wheeler in which a helmet must be used there is no obligation for seat belts unless the three wheeler has been homologated with seat belts fitted.
All this means that when driving an M3W in Italy both driver and passenger must use both a helmet and seatbelts.
If you do not use a helmet you risk not only a fine but having the car towed away. Depends a bit on how nasty the police feel like being. If you do get stopped it is more likely to satisfy the curiosity of the cop but I would not take the risk.
Peter
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,213
Has a lot to Say!
|
Has a lot to Say!
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,213 |
I seem to remember reading somewhere that it was recommended not to use a seat belt while wearing a helmet , as the extra weight could result in neck injuries in the event of an accident .
Hugh
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 400
Learner Plates Off!
|
Learner Plates Off!
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 400 |
The risk of getting hurt is much greater without the belt.
M3W, now!!!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 5,016 Likes: 3
Charter Member
|
OP
Charter Member
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 5,016 Likes: 3 |
The risk of getting hurt is much greater without the belt. Otherwise they would not buckle up in race cars when wearing helmets ....
Hannes once: Green M3W; 2013 now: Red 4/4 Sport; 2011 and some practical cars for use in real life
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 14,723 Likes: 149
Member of the Inner Circle
|
Member of the Inner Circle
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 14,723 Likes: 149 |
The risk of getting hurt is much greater without the belt. Certainly. The law (that does not require a seatbelt on trikes) was made for three wheelers where the rider/driver is not enclosed in a cockpit and more likely to go rolling down the road in the event of an accident. In the case of the M3W I would always wear the seatbelt for safety and I also think a helmet is a good idea whatever the law may say.
Last edited by Gambalunga; 03/06/15 10:40 PM.
Peter
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,356 Likes: 2
Talk Morgan Expert
|
Talk Morgan Expert
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,356 Likes: 2 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 342
Learner Plates Off!
|
Learner Plates Off!
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 342 |
Tête dure
Cheers, Georges
M3W, Super Dry edition, sep. 2013 ...called 'DogNose'
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 1,773 Likes: 19
Talk Morgan Enthusiast
|
Talk Morgan Enthusiast
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 1,773 Likes: 19 |
Is there a list somewhere of countries vs M3W regulations? i.e. if I were to drive an M3W to France or Spain or Germany would I need a motorbike license, helmet, etc?
M3W5sp 2015, MSCC, MTWC, Oxon UK
|
|
|
|
|