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Wanted to join LogMog but my email didn't get through
There must have been a bit of a blockage! You can get tablets for that!
Richard 1976 4/4 4 Seater
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Bonne chance Adrian, look forward to hearing how you get on. Totally agree. Good luck with this one Adrian, but I suspect you may get the odd angry phonecall once your plans get out!
Bud 4/4 "Stanley"
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I do support the "Change from within" philosophy.
A strategy I successfully deployed in my corporate days.
Often a harder more painful route route to follow than splintering away.
BTW I could also see TM becoming a "Centre" ..it possibly already is! But one recognised and part of MSCC??
A virtual Centre...oooo I do like that !!
Neil
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MSCC has to change and evolve. But it must be done from the inside, not by splintering. So, those who want change have to make it happen. I had a long, positive and rather exciting chat with Adrian last night.
Not quite "MSCC, boldly going where no Morgan has gone before", but something like it! A well thought out post and strategy Peter, it's a bit like the old serenity prayer, isn't it? 'Change the things you can change, accept the things you can't, have the wisdom to know the difference' Good luck to Adrian and you too, we look forward to hearing more hopefully in the next 100 days.
Brian
1970 Morgan Plus 8 - Moss Box (Indigo Blue) 2014 Morgan SP1 (Rocket Red) 2015 Morgan Plus 8 (Rocket Blue)
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Nice post Peter J. You state it very accurately and well. I certainly wish you well, maybe you'll have me rejoining one day. Nick
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Most Mog owners are either comfortably well off, or over 60.
Ah that's the nail on the head.. I am neither! I come to Morgan as an enthusiast and 'oily ragger' having maintained all my cars and bikes for many years and I will continue to do so. Not just from a financial point of view but I trust my own work better and actually enjoy it. So I'm not typical of the profile and so it seems best left out to do my own thing while the wealthy and aged do their stuff.. So you see I am as unwilling to change as the club, rather ironic eh
Steve 2008 4/4 1.8 Duratec
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I do support the "Change from within" philosophy.
A strategy I successfully deployed in my corporate days.
Often a harder more painful route route to follow than splintering away.
BTW I could also see TM becoming a "Centre" ..it possibly already is! But one recognised and part of MSCC??
A virtual Centre...oooo I do like that !! Sorry, but the part I've highlighted in red would be definitely not be my preference. ps for anyone in the Devon/Somerset area looking for a really friendly "oily rag" (and remarkably free of bureaucracy) club, should have a look at the following. www.crashboxclub.co.uk
Bud 4/4 "Stanley"
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Bonne chance Adrian, look forward to hearing how you get on. Totally agree. Good luck with this one Adrian, but I suspect you may get the odd angry phonecall once your plans get out! Personally if anyone is rude and abusive to me on any matter to me personnaly they will receive a polite but appropriate response. I am very well versed in dealing with difficult situations from my fruity role. As I understand it the MSCC is for and owned by its membership and I believe has a democratic constitution. It is for all not a select few, I actually think that what I and others are suggesting will be a major benefit to the club long term and hopefully others will see it that way if they think it through. What is being suggested is an add on that would compliment what is already there and open up options to more, so I find it hard to see why anyone would object to it.
Adrian
Buggered Off, to a modern none leaky car, heart's still ticking
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Here are my random thoughts on this thread:
Like many on this forum, I started my motoring life with a car, a few spanners and no money. I learnt the hard way how to do everything from servicing, brake overhauls, engine rebuilds and panel changes. As our horse obsession became more time consuming I had less and less time for this. One thing that wound me up was starting a job on Friday evening knowing that somehow the thing had to be back on the road in order for me to get to work on Monday morning (e.g. big ends, new pistons and rings in a S III 88" Land Rover and a 4 day bank holiday bulkhead swap in the same Land Rover). As my career progressed and company cars came along we swapped from towing trailers to 7.5T Horse Boxes for the horses. Thoughts of DIY on a Bedford TL were quickly put to one side - I could barely lift the silencer box when it came adrift in the Lake District. A nice man at a local garage took over all the lorry maintenance and we drifted into servicing by credit card and telephone. Having now left the Corporate minefield and started my own business, we have gone back to towing a trailer - but you need double jointed fingers that are infinitely strong and 8" long to work on a Disco 4 - so that will keep going to the dealer for servicing.
When we bought our first Morgan in 2003 I was driving 38-40k miles a year and working silly hours. The Morgan was about relaxation. One of the attractions was that I could buy what was then an 18 year old car and still get it serviced by a main dealer - Mike Duncan is brilliant. However, as it had a carburettor and no electronics I could still tinker and do the jobs I felt like doing. That car went back to Mike every year for a service and MOT which kept the fat history file going.
In 10 years I always failed to get SWMBO to consider a European touring holiday in the Morgan - she argued that the same man who persuaded her to update her car to keep it modern and safe could not have it both ways and take what was then a 29 year old car across the channel - even though many people do this all the time.
The opportunity to update the Morgan came with a legacy which, initially, we considered using for some extensive work on the old car but then the lure of a new Morgan took over. And now my tinkering is limited to greasing the front end and a quick spanner check - especially as SWMBO gets impatient when I spend too long fettling and polishing - she would rather be out in the car - and who am I to disagree.
So there is my journey from oily rag to modern Morgan and more touring than tinkering.
We get a great deal of value from the club and have made many good friends through the MSCC. A small group of us recently toured the Alps driving the Grand Route des Alps - something that we could have done on our own but was really nice doing as a small group.
I understand that going to a Noggin and facing a group of people who have all known each other for years is not for everyone. A big factor for us though was that the MSCC is a wife friendly club. We dallied with other clubs over the years and were put off by men only groups that sat and discussed nothing but the oily bits. DonMog (and other centres) has a thriving ladies group which goes out mid week on a monthly basis which means that SWMBO looks forward to gossiping at noggins and I get to talk oil, grease and tinkering with the men.
The only really bad news is that at the DonMog Car Trial last year she beat me!
Paul Costock, UK Plus Four 75th - Furka Rouge - Pip Disco 5 Teddy - 17h1 Irish Draught cross
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[What is being suggested is an add on that would compliment what is already there and open up options to more, so I find it hard to see why anyone would object to it. I have reflected on this and now think that this is a really positive step - good luck with getting it off the ground.
Paul Costock, UK Plus Four 75th - Furka Rouge - Pip Disco 5 Teddy - 17h1 Irish Draught cross
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