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griffo #314178 24/10/15 09:07 AM
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Report:
Very knowledgeable (and nice) mechanic from Perranwell came round last night and managed to get it started. Seems it was not the ecu but a problem with a camshaft sensor. Laptop diagnostics flagged up "camshaft out of phase". We removed the two cam position sensors (simple hall effect triggers)at the back of the rocker covers, wiped them with a rag and re-installed them and re-connected the electrical connectors. Bingo, it started and ran fine. I can only guess one of the electrical connector pins was not making contact. The car was running perfectly when I last used it after an 800-miles trip to the Loire in early September but I had not started it since then due hospital/knee replacement op'. Whether leaving it for six weeks (on trickle charger) could have caused the "out of phase" problem I've no idea. Maybe I'll carry a spare cam sensor in future.

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Welcome Paulxj to TM. Apart from that starting problem hope you're enjoying Morgan ownership.

Which part of the North West are you?


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Very knowledgeable (and nice) mechanic from Perranwell came round last night and managed to get it started. Seems it was not the ecu but a problem with a camshaft sensor. Laptop diagnostics flagged up "camshaft out of phase". We removed the two cam position sensors (simple hall effect triggers)at the back of the rocker covers, wiped them with a rag and re-installed them and re-connected the electrical connectors. Bingo, it started and ran fine. I can only guess one of the electrical connector pins was not making contact. The car was running perfectly when I last used it after an 800-miles trip to the Loire in early September but I had not started it since then due hospital/knee replacement op'. Whether leaving it for six weeks (on trickle charger) could have caused
the "out of phase" problem I've no idea. Maybe I'll carry a spare cam sensor in future.


That sounds like great service from Perranwell. Well done to them. Hope you get out again to enjoy it. Perhaps Perranwell could have replaced your knee for you?


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Thanks Griffo for sharing that. It is always useful to learn about things that have happened with other cars. Mine has failed to start a couple of times but looking at the immobiliser tell tale shows that it was a communication problem. Key out and back in and all was well (so far!)


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Sounds like great service and pleased to hear that you and the MOG are back up and running.


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I can feel a GDI owners hints and tips coming on.

I wonder if the ECU is a standard Ford unit?


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Originally Posted By DaveW
I can feel a GDI owners hints and tips coming on.

I wonder if the ECU is a standard Ford unit?


We need to start a movement for bringing back starting handles. laugh2


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Originally Posted By DaveW
It's something else to worry about with a new car. There's been 'another' GDI ECU fail on TM, but I can't remember who it was.

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It really does make me twitchy about ordering a new car, especially when other issues like headlamp cowls are still happening, and the handbrake cable design, which could so easily be sorted.

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Just another reason to add throttle bodies and a cam to the yellow rocket Dave. Either that or a little engine swap to 2.5 litres evil


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But by the time I add stainless wheels and a mohair easy up................£££££££££££££££

It's a conundrum.


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Originally Posted By DaveW
But by the time I add stainless wheels and a mohair easy up................£££££££££££££££

It's a conundrum.


No, it's a Morgan happy3


Keith
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