2 members (Tresco, RedThree),
309
guests, and
39
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums34
Topics48,337
Posts812,933
Members9,203
|
Most Online1,046 Aug 24th, 2023
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 6,723 Likes: 2
Talk Morgan Sage
|
Talk Morgan Sage
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 6,723 Likes: 2 |
There was a whole reply from Steve here which has now gone! This is my answer to that reply.
Steve,
I am sorry if I gave the impression of being arrogant. You gave the impression of being sharp.
I was really rather more disappointed. I know that Morgan do not achieve Rolls Royce standards of finish and that owning one is a hobby in itself before even talking about driving but given what I guess is a very coddled usage I was rather surprised at the finish imperfections of the used examples that I have seen. I would be buying a new one but would have been disappointed if mine had these problems in a couple of years. I thought that looking at used examples would give me a useful indicator of potential problems.
I have been reading the forum and I am aware of the problems reported here. I have been holding off the purchase for a while waiting for development of the car to mature and I am hoping that mechanically we are getting nearer and summer is coming. Finish wise I was not so sure.
Chris
Chris, You're quite correct, I did delete my post. If you want a closer look at a 6000 mile, two year old all weather (no salt) example then just ask.. Good hunting.
Steve
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,944
Talk Morgan Enthusiast
|
Talk Morgan Enthusiast
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,944 |
Chris I did have a run today, it was only 2C this morning & froze overnight, PM it was 6C. The roads were dry but there probably was salt on some of them. I hosed down & washed on return with a fan spray underneath not a pressure washer.
Topped up the ACF50 including the engine. Best not spray the shiny rocker covers & cam belt cover just wipe over with ACF50 on a rag. I used to use Scottoiler FS365 but ACF50 is superior & perhaps I would not have had as much corrosion if I had always used it.
There are lots of annoyances with an M3W but they are must fantastic fun & look brilliant. If you have bike or classic car experience you will likely get on better with one. A Toyota like drive it & forget it experience is not on offer with an M3W.
Tim
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 797
Talk Morgan Regular
|
Talk Morgan Regular
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 797 |
Chris I bought the 3W with my heart not my head. I had not joined TM and knew nothing of the problems I would encounter. I didnt even look the old girl over properly when I bought her secondhand. Everything I had learnt about buying cars and bikes went straight out the window. The unvarnished truth is that they are a bit of a mixed bag. The bodies and paintwork are great; not the mudguards, they are a joke full stop, the chassis was very badly designed and the engine is not quite the quality that you might hope for. Look at the engine in the new Indian for an example of how it should be done. I think the S and S was chosen because the custom bike market crashed and Morgan got them cheap. Build quality, well it looks like a bunch of 16 year olds have put it together and in truth they probably did. Having said that; the drive is fan bloody tastic and nothing I have ever driven/ridden comes close.
If you are buying with your head, forget it; buy a Toyota GT( I would love one) You will regret it.
If buying with your heart. Go put your deposit down now.
To sum up. The three wheeler is a flawed bit of genius, more by accident than design. Typical British engineering really.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 2,774
Talk Morgan Expert
|
Talk Morgan Expert
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 2,774 |
Although I have a 4 wheeler I do understand your concern. I have had lots of classic cars and bikes over the years and there is no denying that a Morgan in whatever form will possibly require more of your attention than a 'normal' car, but no more than any other classic type car or bike.
But doing so is really part of the enjoyment for many if not all.. I would suggest there is a small community of owners that just jump in and go without much thought to maintenance and care and their cars do suffer as a result. Most fiddle and faff about to keep them bright and rust free, if you are the sort that likes doing that then I'd go for it.. if you are not, best avoid one.
Steve
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 7
New to Talk Morgan
|
OP
New to Talk Morgan
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 7 |
Thanks everyone.
I have no delusions about owning an old car & I think that it appears to be best if I think of the Morgan in those terms.
Yes they are a real experience & I just loved it. The example I drove at Krazy Horse (red with black interior) was beautiful if rather noisier than I would choose. The after market exhaust was a little too attention grabbing. Actually it is amazing how few of the options I want to tick
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 756 Likes: 9
Talk Morgan Regular
|
Talk Morgan Regular
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 756 Likes: 9 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 1,789 Likes: 3
Talk Morgan Enthusiast
|
Talk Morgan Enthusiast
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 1,789 Likes: 3 |
As I understand it the chassis are dipped at the manufacturing stage in some sort of rust preventative, hence all the holes at the tube intersection points so it can run in and then drain out.
Mine is a February 13 car with 7500 miles and no rust anywhere, honest.
ACF50 is your friend, use it liberally.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 7
New to Talk Morgan
|
OP
New to Talk Morgan
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 7 |
GLLOQ & Dab of oppo
Are all those holes in the chassis as supplied by Morgan?
I must find out what they dip the chassis in as it will tell me a lot.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 1,490
Has a lot to Say!
|
Has a lot to Say!
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 1,490 |
According to Peter Dron's book (page 61), "...the chassis is treated to an autophoretic (AP) coating which is rust protection of INTERNAL and external surfaces, and finally the top coat spray. "
The Original Ken 11,000 miles.
2014 BMW R9T 2005 Saabaru 2005 Saabaru
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 7
New to Talk Morgan
|
OP
New to Talk Morgan
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 7 |
|
|
|
|
|