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Fully agree with your comments. Have never sold a Morgan that I have bought. Have a 58 +4 bought in 1972, a 1986 +4 bought new from the factory and the 2012 M3W. None for sale. All to the grandkids who love them more than me!
Could be tempted for a new +4 when it becomes available for sale in the U.S.
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Speaking from experience, this will start to bite a bit when you get past the warranty period. While people have had a varying degree of experiences, for the most part, if you are not extremely handy with a spanner the up keep on a M3W is costly and in some cases involve long bouts of down time. If mine were to be stolen or wrecked I would probably not buy another right away. There are a lot of vehicles at this price point that may not have the character or pure smile-inducing-fun of the Morgan, but would be just as nice to own and with much less worry, up keep cost and downtime. I debated for a few days on posting this or not and reworded it several times as I do not regret my purchase and I have enjoyed my M3W very much, all while not having close to the amount of issues some have had. But, this is my experience. Interesting. Yep I'm pretty happy to do my own maintenance but I would be hoping from the point of view of buying new M3W and keeping mileage low there shouldn't be too many issues!
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While a new M3W should not require the same out-of-pocket upgrade expenses that us early adapters had to fork over for things like "comfort" steering, steel sprockets, quiet bevel boxes or engine cooling fans. Once you are out of warranty, you can still expect to be paying your dealership for anything that happens and is out of your capabilities to diagnose, repair or improve on your own. Which, usually is nothing cheap and unfortunately happens more than I would like on a vehicle at this price point.
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( I just put this in the warranty question thread above, but more appropriate here)
Gotta put in my 2 cents, since I asked my self after a 525 mile drive in wind and sun yesterday, if I made the right decision to buy the M3W.I got home, my face was black from road grime, and I was exhausted from being beat up by sun and wind. Legs were stiff as there is little room to move them around in the cockpit. Back hurt. My conclusion: I would have gone to my grave wishing I had given the M3W a go, had I not bought this car. It's a compromise between a sports car and motorcycle as far as comfort is concerned, (more towards the motorcycle). I wish I had a Fairbourne windscreen, though. I really wanted this car since I first saw them in 2012, and I intend to enjoy the hell out of it, but in smaller chunks. Not for sale.
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I totally agree with Charlie on this. The worst bits have been fixed but there is still much that can change. The S&S X-Wedge is solid as well as the Mazda transmission. Everything that is hooked up to those made by Morgan, or their subcontractors, might be dodgy.
You are paying for a road-legal race car that uses a V-Twin for a power plant that will shake loose most fittings after only a short time on the road. And like race cars, it is twitchy, the suspension is hard purposely and you will feel like your internal organs are being rearranged. Deal. It is hand made. Morgan's warranty is intentionally somewhat vague and short. This car is what it is. You either accept it for that or get something else.
I have no regrets. I have put over 25,000 miles on this Blau Beastie and it has cost me a great deal to do so and it will continue to cost me more. I have a pair of new tires in my dining room waiting to be installed because the way I drive and what this car is capable of means I will eat tires in short order.
I have no regrets. I would do it again. I have more fun in this contraption than is reasonable to expect but it works!
One must choose.
Seriously. Either do it and fully commit. Or not. You can't be wishy-washy. Go for it. You won't regret it. You may question your sanity but that is another issue...
Last edited by Michael H; 19/07/16 10:33 PM.
What's your mileage? Who cares. Is it practical? See #1. What happens when it rains? You get wet.
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Gentlemen, I salute you! Without the local Morgan dealers we enjoy on our small island, it takes a level of resilience to live with a Three Wheeler in the US. I particularly enjoy hearing about your travels (or should that be travails?) When I have time for another toy in my life and to learn some practical skills, I am going to choose between a (small) boat or a M3W. It's either that, or spend more time with the wife 
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Speaking from experience, this will start to bite a bit when you get past the warranty period. While people have had a varying degree of experiences, for the most part, if you are not extremely handy with a spanner the up keep on a M3W is costly and in some cases involve long bouts of down time. If mine were to be stolen or wrecked I would probably not buy another right away. There are a lot of vehicles at this price point that may not have the character or pure smile-inducing-fun of the Morgan, but would be just as nice to own and with much less worry, up keep cost and downtime. I debated for a few days on posting this or not and reworded it several times as I do not regret my purchase and I have enjoyed my M3W very much, all while not having close to the amount of issues some have had. But, this is my experience. Interesting. Yep I'm pretty happy to do my own maintenance but I would be hoping from the point of view of buying new M3W and keeping mileage low there shouldn't be too many issues! Why would you want to keep mileage low?
The Original Ken
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Buy one now because the M3W will never be as good as it is right now. It's the same with all cars, the first of a model are the best, after that they get heavier, lazier, more complicated and lose that edge. Like the Datsun Z cars, the RX7, the E Type Jag.......
I had one of the first MX5's loved it, wish I still had it. My wife has a recent one but mine was more fun. No power steering, no air-con, no auto, just fun
At some stage Morgan will smooth the edges, someone in authority will realise how much at risk we, or the environment are and quell the noise, the fumes, the lack of basic safety features. The M3W of 2020 will look like the Australian Version with the addition of power steering, auto box, crash resistant A pillars, airbags and a high level bumper........ The M3W of 2025 will have an electric engine and self drive.
People will look upon our early cars with envy
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