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Originally Posted By Timothy


That’s odd my next-door neighbor is a Washington state highway patrol officer and he tells differently.

You are assuming that the police know the law. I would find the statute, print it out, and keep it in the car. Even then you might get a ticket that you would have to go to court to fight. A few years ago 3 of us old geezers were riding our Triumphs to a charity event. We were riding single file and this...Peace Officer... at some risk to our safety tailgated us for 5 miles. He then jammed his cruiser in between us, one at a time tailgating each of us. He then got back behind the last man in formation. We had on full gear, no club patches, quiet pipes, and were breaking no laws. After a 30 minute, rude inspection of all our bikes, he wrote one guy up for having a vertical license plate. We didnt think it was a violation. He said it made the plate unreadable! I though, to myself, that he must not go to the Library! Anyway my friend went home and looked it up and orientation of the plate is mentioned nowhere in the statute! Ignorance of the law is no excuse, if you are only a citizen. This fuy was out to write someone up. It didnt matter to him that he had to invent a law to do it.

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Yes Daggin one may say they are even paid to know it. 😉


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Originally Posted By Timothy
Yes Daggin one may say they are even paid to know it. 😉

Do not expect too much.
Many became cops cause they were not qualified for a decent job.
scared


>>>for the German speaking audience:
Wer nichts ist und wer nichts kann
geht zur Post oder zur Bahn.
Wer selbst dafür zu dämlich ist
der wird schließlich Polizist.


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I suggest that Timothy is correct about Washington State.

It would seem that my source (an owner of a 2012 M3W) may have creatively understood what he read in the RCW (revised code of Washington). (OK...I'd rather look something up than argue over beers....no sense of fun.)

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.37.530
RCW 46.37.530
It is unlawful...
(c) For any person to operate or ride upon a motorcycle, motor-driven cycle, or moped on a state highway, county road, or city street unless wearing upon his or her head a motorcycle helmet except when the vehicle is an antique motor-driven cycle or when the vehicle is equipped with all of the following:

(i) Steering wheel;
(ii) Seat belts that conform to standards prescribed under 49 C.F.R. Part 571; and
(iii) Partially or completely enclosed seating area for the driver and passenger that is certified by the manufacturer as meeting the standards prescribed under 49 C.F.R. Sec. 571.216.

I hardly expect that Morgan has made any such certification as noted in iii. Yet, the Polaris Slingshot with same or less protection seems to be driven here without helmets. In practice, I don't know how much emphasis is put on the certification itself, or whether it is simply that people are in a partially enclosed seating area.

49 C.F.R. Sec. 571.216 -- appears to be a federal vehicle safety standard dealing with roofs that withstand rollovers. Doubtful that the M3W meets this standard nor has been certified.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/49/571.216

I suppose it partially comes down to enforcement:
Are you willing to gamble that you can either
- talk your way out a stop (the vehicle has a steering wheel, seatbelts and partially enclosed seating area with rollover protection)
- or just get a warning.

Hm.

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Originally Posted By The Austrian
Originally Posted By Timothy
Yes Daggin one may say they are even paid to know it. 😉

Do not expect too much.
Many became cops cause they were not qualified for a decent job.
scared


>>>for the German speaking audience:
Wer nichts ist und wer nichts kann
geht zur Post oder zur Bahn.
Wer selbst dafür zu dämlich ist
der wird schließlich Polizist.


rofl thumbs cheers



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And what fun is that?

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In California, an M3W can ride in the carpool lanes and no helmet is required.


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That's good news. Another bonus for owning a M3W.

Counting down the weeks. T thanks for your help.

KEN

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