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Hello again guys
Any thoughts or much needed advice on Suplex suspension . Also I have small feet and yes it is true I need " a longer organ" type accelerator pedal as I have seen as an after fit accessory ,rather than the Std pendant pedal . Are they difficult to fit and are they any good - they are about £58 at Berryfield Morgan. Cheers SteveH
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The organ throttle pedal can be retro fitted to trads with the roller throttle. But the GDI has a fly by wire pendant throttle so although it may be possible it won't be a simple drill and fix.
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Ah, longer organs, eh..? The organ pedals are a little Marmite to people, in that some love 'em, some hate 'em. I fall into the latter category.
The problem is one of heel room. The pedals are great for the 'heel & toe' downshift blipping, but I can't be doing with the cramped space they bring.
I know Wolf Performance are developing some VERY sexy pedal replacements as we speak, and they appear to be just the ticket.
Standard throttle pedal is a roller on a rod, and some have changed the left/right position of the bend, which gives a bit more room.
I can't speak about anything Suplex, so I'll prop the bar up here whilst one of the other locals strolls in..
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If You have not purchased Suplex Kit yet - don't. Too expensive for the slight improvement You will think You received. Buy a Mulberry setup instead.
If You have already purchased a Suplex Kit - Follow the instructions.
I have tried the Suplex Kit on all 3 of My Morgans. '61 DHC, '63 +4-4Str and +8 Bitsa ('98 chassis) Kit is well made IMO. Just not enough benefit for the cost IMO.
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Thanks guys . I'll wait for the wolf pedal set up and start saving for the Mulberry susp. I have been on their site and must admit the top and bottom wishbones set up does look a "proper job" not unlike an "E type" I think this set up would also improve the steering as well.
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If You have not purchased Suplex Kit yet - don't. Too expensive for the slight improvement You will think You received. Buy a Mulberry setup instead.
If You have already purchased a Suplex Kit - Follow the instructions.
I have tried the Suplex Kit on all 3 of My Morgans. '61 DHC, '63 +4-4Str and +8 Bitsa ('98 chassis) Kit is well made IMO. Just not enough benefit for the cost IMO.
Button
Seattle I really don't like to see such a strongly put opinion about a perfectly valid and well engineered upgrade to the front suspension. It is one thing to recommend an alternative but another thing to blag a product which for some reason or other the owner can't get to work for him, so much so that he feels it works best without the dampers. All I can say is that in that case something is clearly out of kilter. Strongly critical statements about products that clearly work for most people who have installed them are perhaps better made off forum in PMs When correctly installed the Suplex front suspension kit works extremely well and will give a more comfortable ride, reduced body roll, adjustable ride height, and rising rate suspension. Some have found that for them the standard kit does not give a quick turn in that they prefer, in that case the firmer main spring from the race kit can be fitted. I think that the results of the Henry Williams' race car prove that the Suplex front suspension is functioning ok. I can recommend it and I am very satisfied with both the Suplex front and rear conversions. Certainly there has been a cost involved but all things considered the front kit costs about the same as a good brand of watch and the rear (installed) is probably up around the price of a Rolex, just to put it into perspective. If you are needing to replace springs, kingpins and bushes, and want to install a decent set of dampers at the same time the additional cost of having something that really transforms the car is not so great. Regarding the Mulberry set up I do not doubt for one moment that it is a perfectly acceptable solution. Like all things it often comes down to a matter of personal taste. My recommendation would be to try to get a ride in cars set up with both systems and then choose which one you prefer.
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And don't suit all drivers Peter...
Steve, not sure the wishbone suspension is being advocated above either. I think you may find an improvement just by fitting Mulberry springs and dampers. But it makes sense to wait until your kingpins require replacement and fit hard chrome KPs and spiral grooved bronze bushes too.
However, how many miles has the car covered, maybe the front end hasn't loosened up fully yet?
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I needed new king pins so decided to go for the Suplex conversion. Sure, it wasn't cheap but then neither was the hardened king pin replacement. Not only did I feel the improvement driving but SWMBO felt it as a passenger and reckoned it was worth the money.
I never liked the roller throttle pedal and fitted an organ pedal about eight years ago, I love it, one of the best mods I've made.
So my vote is in favour of both of these mods.
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If You have not purchased Suplex Kit yet - don't. Too expensive for the slight improvement You will think You received. Buy a Mulberry setup instead.
If You have already purchased a Suplex Kit - Follow the instructions.
I have tried the Suplex Kit on all 3 of My Morgans. '61 DHC, '63 +4-4Str and +8 Bitsa ('98 chassis) Kit is well made IMO. Just not enough benefit for the cost IMO.
Button
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Not tried a Suplex equipped car but IMHO a correctly set up HFS system does the job after all a Morgan is a Morgan.
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