Talk Morgan Forums Community The Malvern Arms Poppies

Yes Neil, quite right. I can completely understand that some people, for whatever reason, do not wish to wear a red poppy (or indeed, a white one). It's their choice and they are free to make it.

What I cannot understand is thinking that says "You should not wear a poppy because somebody else might be upset at the sight of it". What a load of PC crap.

Just all go with a poppy what are they going to do stop everyone . Politics over common sense .

I did not appreciate the rule around the court room but can understand it. I would not compare the court to the FIFA situation however. Most of them spend their lives as brand message puppets of some sort or other. It would make a pleasant change for one of the brands they carry to have a deep meaning.

I know of at least one District Judge in London who wears a poppy when sitting and as a former member of the Army sells them in his spare time!

As a former (by choice!) legal professional myself, I always used to wear a poppy when undertaking advocacy!

Arwyn

+1

just spoken to a barrister friend and i think it has become more relaxed now and at the discretion of the judge or clerk of court and depends on the dress etiquette of the court.

When I was travelling the country designing courtrooms many years ago, i witnessed the humiliation of a young barrister who stood up to speak

The judge put her hand out and said "Mr Smith, I can not hear you"

so he apologized and raised his voice

The judge again put her hand out and said "Mr Smith, i still can not hear you"

again he apologized and raised his voice further which was also quite nervy

The judge then said "Mr Smith, the reason i can not hear you is because you have a poppy in your lapel, kindly remove it so you may be heard in court"

I met the judge after the court sitting to discuss the design of the new court room and she was a bit of a battleaxe but was very thankful for her new court when it was completed a few months later

over the four years doing courtrooms I met and encountered some fascinating and sometimes bizarre people and got involved with some interesting situations.

I visited Nottingham Crown Court to measure up and survey a court room and got mistaken for a member of the legal counsel for the Beverly Allot trial and quickly ushered into a back room of a courtroom to avoid the TV cameras and reporters.

i had a large pilots case and was smartly dressed so i can understand the confusion but it was quite funny having to explain who i was after about 10 minutes of chaos

The nicest and most interesting people i met were many of the Clerks of Courts in the Mag courts who were fantastic to deal with

Stewart, the courts in Lancaster jail are very impressive. Did you design those.
Just asking.

I assume you were there as a witness, Wirewheel!

Or....????

The FIFA /Poppy issue was raised as a question today during PMQs.

Terry May gave a right old rant in reply - telling FIFA to sort out their affairs before meddling in ours!!

Good one Teresa!