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Thanks Graeme

Thanks all.

Heinz. In Italy the tax is payable on the declared maximum power odf the engine and the Euro class.
In Lombardia for a Euro 6 engine of 180cv the tax at the moment is €361, for a 250cv engine the tax is €560. I think methane/gpl costs €20 less.

I don't expect to be doing more than about 6,000km a year in this car (plus 10,000km a year in the Morgan) so it should last me a good while. As long as the powers that be don't make life too difficult for diesel in the next few years (already Euro 3 is becoming difficult in this part of the world) it should do me until I'm in my early 80s. By then who knows what I will want to drive

How about this Peter?

VERY nice...
The new car will be Euro 6, so should be future proofed within your time line.

My view is that anything below Euro 5 will be a liability and restricted in where it can be used, especially in urban areas, within 3 years.
Euro 5 will be safe for a bit longer and Euro 6 probably OK for the next 10.

BUT I suspect the tax on diesel fuel will slowly rise, diesel cars likewise, so that by 2025 there will be little or no difference in costs.

Interestingly in India last week I noticed that CNG has taken over as the urban fuel of choice. It replaces both gasoline and diesel, and given the abundance from fracking in much of the world, it reduces dependance on imported oil.
Ut produces next to no pollution, mostly just CO2. Given it has a RON of 130 engines can perform well on it.

This is an interesting LINK . The USA is very much behind it as they have more natural gas than they need, and it is cheap.

CO2 is not a pollution?

Well there is a difference of opinion on this. As everyone knows plants consume CO2 and put out oxygen. There is a theory that says if the atmosphere is rich in CO2 the plants take up more of it and put out more O2. More or less a self balancing system.

The carbon thereby trapped will either be burnt, thereby recombining it with the O2, be consumed by animals, thereby recombining it in various ways, or eventually become the fuel oil for whatever species follow us after a few million years

Depends how it is produced!
Most is "natural"
Without CO2 we have no plants and without plants no oxygen.....

Perhaps we would still have the "snowball earth" since 700 Mio years without the help of volcanism and some V8 engines.

I think we are just returning to climate during Roman times - vineyards up by Hadrian's Wall anyone

Be carefull of those knives sticking out the wheels.