|
7 members (Paul F, aerotaff, JohnHarris, tezzer, John Winn, bmgermany, Bitsobrits),
168
guests, and
67
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
|
|
|
Wales
by Joske Vermeule, September 1
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums39
Topics49,883
Posts837,824
Members9,597
| |
Most Online1,063
Jun 14th, 2026
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 27
Just Getting Started
|
OP
Just Getting Started
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 27 |
Hello, TM forum members. Scouring the market for a +8 and came across this advertisement. Navy, w wheels and pre-red tyre brake light. Ad: https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C360897Any thoughts, info or knowledge of this car would be most appreciated. (PM me if you feel more comfortable that way.) Many Thanks, Freddie Eximius
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 239
L - Learner Plates On
|
|
L - Learner Plates On
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 239 |
I think you'd need to drive it properly to decide if that exhaust is for you. It sounds like it could be quite something, but one may find it too much at times. The character of this Morgan derives from the s/s long tube header exhaust; the 4:2:1 collectors exit through absorption 'silencer' boxes hidden under each wing having side exits. It burbles 'V8' at low revs. then changes to an F1-like V10 scream when spurred. This broad band cacophony of noise is gut wrenching and sets off car alarms at ten paces; and this really is true. It does not have to be driven hooligan-like and will drive sedately when required Nice looking car though. Price looks about right.
Joe T '96 Morgan +8 4.6 '68 Pontiac Firebird Twitter
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 27
Just Getting Started
|
|
OP
Just Getting Started
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 27 |
I think you'd need to drive it properly to decide if that exhaust is for you. It sounds like it could be quite something, but one may find it too much at times. The character of this Morgan derives from the s/s long tube header exhaust; the 4:2:1 collectors exit through absorption 'silencer' boxes hidden under each wing having side exits. It burbles 'V8' at low revs. then changes to an F1-like V10 scream when spurred. This broad band cacophony of noise is gut wrenching and sets off car alarms at ten paces; and this really is true. It does not have to be driven hooligan-like and will drive sedately when required Nice looking car though. Price looks about right. Great, thanks Joe.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,415
Has a lot to Say!
|
|
Has a lot to Say!
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,415 |
That's Frank Mugford's car
I used to see it from time to time when I worked for RTCC.
The exhausts are RPI ones, I believe this car was the prototype.
Simon @ SiFab.co.uk
Simon @ Sifab.co.uk
Sifabtemporary@gmail.com
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 296 Likes: 1
Learner Plates Off!
|
|
Learner Plates Off!
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 296 Likes: 1 |
Have you viewed the car?
I would be very cautious as the ad has been viewed over 18500 times and it is still unsold...
It may be ok but that is a massive amount of views for a private sale, maybe been on the market a while?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 8,015 Likes: 1
Posting Desperado Talk Morgan Guru
|
|
Posting Desperado Talk Morgan Guru
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 8,015 Likes: 1 |
Can you not find out if there is a noggin in that area and have a chat with the lads they may know it well even over the phone . If you are going to look at it take a mog owner with you and one that,s had a +8 a good while and knows his stuff , it may cost you a pie and a pint but worth it. Or ask if the owner will take you to a mog garage and you will pay for his fuel , then let the garage look it over . Its one way of selling it .
Last edited by Jack The Lad; 15/09/17 03:30 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,125 Likes: 37
Talk Morgan Expert
|
|
Talk Morgan Expert
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,125 Likes: 37 |
Have you viewed the car?
I would be very cautious as the ad has been viewed over 18500 times and it is still unsold...
It may be ok but that is a massive amount of views for a private sale, maybe been on the market a while? It has been on the market a while - I've seen it advertised on the Car & Classic website several times.
Regards
Alan
AP08 MOG
2016 Plus 4 GDi - Mazda Soul Red Metallic
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 37,450 Likes: 987
Tricky Dicky Member of the Inner Circle
|
|
Tricky Dicky Member of the Inner Circle
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 37,450 Likes: 987 |
I have been aware of this advert on the site for at least the last 2 years maybe longer - I know it says listed August 2017 in the advert I'm assuming that is a relist date.
I would exercise extreme caution that is a long long time to be on the market, the advert sounds very boy racer to me and I would walk away from it.
If viewing take someone that knows Plus8's in depth.
2009 4/4 Sport Henrietta
1999 Indigo Blue +8
2009 4/4 Sport Green prev
1993 Con Green +8 prev
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,511 Likes: 21
Talk Morgan Enthusiast
|
|
Talk Morgan Enthusiast
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,511 Likes: 21 |
I made enquiries about this car last year.I asked for some pictures of the interior.
The answer was that it was tucked away in his garage and would try and take some.Even after repeated requestt they never turned up.
It has been for sale for at least two years.
Other plus 8 seem to sell alot quicker !
Last edited by brownbaker; 15/09/17 03:57 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 2,272 Likes: 7
Talk Morgan Expert
|
|
Talk Morgan Expert
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 2,272 Likes: 7 |
Freddie
I would be very wary about the hyperbole here . There is no way this car has 250 bhp , even 200 with that degree of modification is optimistic.
All the mods are typical of RPM , and there are very mixed opinions about this company and their offering to the Morgan fraternity.
I do remember that this car (if it is indeed the one I remember) is loud and then some, so not the most appropriate of purchases for someone living in London with sensitive neighbours. Yes it is nice to hear the V8 burble at low revs , and a crackle as you put your foot down, but you also need quieter phases when causing long distances, and I am not sure this car does quiet.
Andy G
1999 +8 , Indigo Blue.
Ex-John McKecknie/Mike Duncan 1955 +4 racer.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 6,723 Likes: 2
Talk Morgan Sage
|
|
Talk Morgan Sage
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 6,723 Likes: 2 |
I view this from the other angle, in that it's now worth a very pushy offer..
Steve
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,105 Likes: 17
Has a lot to Say!
|
|
Has a lot to Say!
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,105 Likes: 17 |
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 5,587
Charter Member
|
|
Charter Member
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 5,587 |
They don't say which Rover v8 it is ie what Litres, you really want 4.6 litres and 300 bhp which is the Range Rover classic engine , I would leave it and ring round some dealers for specs of v8 Mogs and give them an offer saying what you want on the car.
Geneva 2016 plus 8' The Green Godess' 4 side exits .
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 238 Likes: 3
L - Learner Plates On
|
|
L - Learner Plates On
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 238 Likes: 3 |
When I was looking for decent exhaust for my Plus 8 , I approached RPI.
At that time they couldn't supply an exhaust which utilised the existing inner wing porting, they did offer to lend me a cutter to cut an additional hole in the inner wing,
I would check this hasn't been done as the original holes in the inner wings when supplied by Morgan have rolled edges to provide additional strength.
1999 Morgan Plus 8. 3.9 ....
1961 Alvis TD21 Series1 3 Litre Auto....
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 831 Likes: 23
Talk Morgan Regular
|
|
Talk Morgan Regular
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 831 Likes: 23 |
It's a little steep price wise for a 20+ year old +8. Exhaust can always be piped out the rear if side pipes too loud. As others said I would look for a 4.6L or if you can afford it a 35th Anniversary.
1980 +8 Blue
And a few others
----------------
Stephen
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 37,450 Likes: 987
Tricky Dicky Member of the Inner Circle
|
|
Tricky Dicky Member of the Inner Circle
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 37,450 Likes: 987 |
I'd pm Bob the Train if I were you he has a lovely Plus 8 he is thinking of selling. 50 cars away from mine production wise with similar spec. He has a very sound reason for selling.
2009 4/4 Sport Henrietta
1999 Indigo Blue +8
2009 4/4 Sport Green prev
1993 Con Green +8 prev
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 27
Just Getting Started
|
|
OP
Just Getting Started
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 27 |
Freddie
I would be very wary about the hyperbole here . There is no way this car has 250 bhp , even 200 with that degree of modification is optimistic.
All the mods are typical of RPM , and there are very mixed opinions about this company and their offering to the Morgan fraternity.
I do remember that this car (if it is indeed the one I remember) is loud and then some, so not the most appropriate of purchases for someone living in London with sensitive neighbours. Yes it is nice to hear the V8 burble at low revs , and a crackle as you put your foot down, but you also need quieter phases when causing long distances, and I am not sure this car does quiet. Hi Andy, back from N Norfolk. Weather unbelievably bad. Will pm you regarding visit.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 27
Just Getting Started
|
|
OP
Just Getting Started
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 27 |
I'd pm Bob the Train if I were you he has a lovely Plus 8 he is thinking of selling. 50 cars away from mine production wise with similar spec. He has a very sound reason for selling.
Will do, 8R. Thank you for the tip.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 27
Just Getting Started
|
|
OP
Just Getting Started
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 27 |
Thank you everybody. Advice and info much appreciated.
Think I will pass and keep looking.
Last edited by Eximius; 15/09/17 06:48 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 28,908 Likes: 354
Salty Sea Dog Member of the Inner Circle
|
|
Salty Sea Dog Member of the Inner Circle
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 28,908 Likes: 354 |
I'd pm Bob the Train if I were you he has a lovely Plus 8 he is thinking of selling. 50 cars away from mine production wise with similar spec. He has a very sound reason for selling.
Will do, 8R. Thank you for the tip. And I know the previous owner of Bob's car and know it has been very well cared for... 
Graham (G4FUJ)
Sold L44FOR 4/4 Giallo Fly
'11 MINI Countryman Cooper D All4
'90 LR 90 SW
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 6,959 Likes: 117
Talk Morgan Sage
|
|
Talk Morgan Sage
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 6,959 Likes: 117 |
Thank you +8Rich and Graham.
Best Regards
Lang may yer lum reek
|
|
|
|
|
